z71 Small Engine Help

CanadianBadass · #1 01-02-2014, 07:08 PM

Hey guys, I was out fishing this week , I took a pull on the starter of my Z71 Eskimo , The knot at the end of the handle had some undone and has now zipped back into the pull start

Anybody know if I can un screw the 4 bolts and re wind it and pull the string back out ?

Or am I better off taking it to a small engine repair shop and get charged to pull the string back out ?

The string never broke, it just came out of the handle and zipped back into the housing

Thanks in advance !

muskokagould · #2 01-02-2014, 07:12 PM

Might find YouTube vid or owners manual?

CanadianBadass · #3 01-02-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by muskokagould

Might find YouTube vid or owners manual?

Im pretty sure I have the manual , however , Im not a mechanic,, but I do feel with a little bit of a confidence boost from others that may have the same issue , and could shed some light on what they did ! I could tackle this !

Dacotensis · #4 01-02-2014, 07:18 PM

I would try to use a couple of flat screwdrivers to spin the rotator outward. Maybe some needle nose pliers to finally reach in and grab the rope, or some tweezers.its a slow process, but less to go wrong and less to lose.

CanadianBadass · #5 01-02-2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dacotensis

I would try to use a couple of flat screwdrivers to spin the rotator outward. Maybe some needle nose pliers to finally reach in and grab the rope, or some tweezers.its a slow process, but less to go wrong and less to lose.

I tried pliers, but I can not find anything narrow enough to fit, I tried a long treble I straightened out and tried hooking it onto the barb, But with no luck,

Again thanks for the quick responses , Its greatly appreciated !

FishingFrenzy · #6 01-02-2014, 07:21 PM

No experience with an ice augur however on my boat motor and various snowmobiles I have worked on, if you take the recoil off it can get messy. There is a coiled spring inside the housing and if you aren't super careful taking it off the spring will "explode" out of the housing. Trust me re-winding a recoil spring is a capital b##ch.

On the same note, I believe the recoil mechanisms are built in a way that if you can manage to recover the end of the cord (needle nose pliers thru the hole?) you shouldn't have to rewind the spring. Just get the end out and go.

If your not mechanically inclined I'd take er to the pros... or a generous board member.

CanadianBadass · #7 01-02-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FishingFrenzy

No experience with an ice augur however on my boat motor and various snowmobiles I have worked on, if you take the recoil off it can get messy. There is a coiled spring inside the housing and if you aren't super careful taking it off the spring will "explode" out of the housing. Trust me re-winding a recoil spring is a capital b##ch.

On the same note, I believe the recoil mechanisms are built in a way that if you can manage to recover the end of the cord (needle nose pliers thru the hole?) you shouldn't have to rewind the spring. Just get the end out and go.

If your not mechanically inclined I'd take er to the pros... or a generous board member.

Again thanks for your help,

Now ...... ANY SMALL ENGINE GUYS OUT THERE WORKING FOR STURGEON TIPS ? lol lol lol

again guys thanks a lot for that little bit of info, It really helps !

AppleJax · #8 01-02-2014, 07:25 PM

If you can't fix it let me know and I'll stop by and take a look at it for you this weekend. Should be an easy fix. I would also tie a second knot just behind the handle so if it happens again the rope won't rewind back into the housing.

CanadianBadass · #9 01-02-2014, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AppleJax

If you can't fix it let me know and I'll stop by and take a look at it for you this weekend. Should be an easy fix. I would also tie a second knot just behind the handle so if it happens again the rope won't rewind back into the housing.

My plan exactly , I was thinking a second knot or even a screw threw the line or something,

This happened the first pull of the day , so I didn't even have one hole down lol lol

Again AJ .

We may have to try to tackle this ourselves, and Im sure you would be a great hand ! , I may have to set the auger a few feet lower for ya , But besides that ...... lol lol

Thanks for the offer man !

huntsfurfish · #10 01-02-2014, 08:25 PM

Cant resist

Should have got a Jiffy.

Or an Ion.

fishermansfriend · #11 01-02-2014, 08:39 PM

super easy fix when you remove the housing the string will be sitting there, chances are its pinched between a plastic or metal chunk and will have to just be pushed back through the hole

fish gunner · #12 01-02-2014, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Cant resist

Should have got a Jiffy.

Or an Ion.

I second that emotion.

Kyle · #13 01-02-2014, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Cant resist

Should have got a Jiffy.

Or an Ion.

x3...thats what ya get for thinking eskimo is any good

EZM · #14 01-02-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

Cant resist

Should have got a Jiffy.

Or an Ion.

I just spit my drink ...out ....... omg ......

Figures you would be a Jiffy guy ............ I also have the Eskimo z71 ........

I don't think we agree on ANY equipment ......

You better make a trip up here so we can show you what real equipment looks like ....

CanadianBadass · #15 01-02-2014, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EZM

I just spit my drink ...out ....... omg ......

Figures you would be a Jiffy guy ............ I also have the Eskimo z71 ........

I don't think we agree on ANY equipment ......

You better make a trip up here so we can show you what real equipment looks like ....

I agree, Way better then any jiffy lol, And the problem isn't something breaking, It was a bad knot behind the handle so the rope sucked into the recoil, nothing broke though,

But ya, Nothing beats the Z71 , When I wound the coil by hand, placed it on the auger, it ran first pull, lol

SCHOOCH · #16 01-02-2014, 10:57 PM

Same thing happened to me and i finally gave up and took it to a small engine shop......after my wife told me my language she could here from the garage became quite offensive!!!!!! Oh ya it was a Jiffy.......LOL

Randyandkim · #17 01-02-2014, 11:04 PM

If you don't have it taken care of pm me if your not too far I'll see what I can do, if the problem is as you described it should be an easy fix

CanadianBadass · #18 01-02-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SCHOOCH

Same thing happened to me and i finally gave up and took it to a small engine shop......after my wife told me my language she could here from the garage became quite offensive!!!!!! Oh ya it was a Jiffy.......LOL

lol, I am pretty sure I can fix it or have it fixed, I have ordered the new part now, so just a waiting game now, and when that new recoil comes in

the first thing im going to do is CHECK THE DAMN KNOT BEHIND THE HANDLE !!!!!!!!

All this hassle because a fisherman never tied the knot behind the handle

harrydude · #19 01-02-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianBadass

lol, I am pretty sure I can fix it or have it fixed, I have ordered the new part now, so just a waiting game now, and when that new recoil comes in

the first thing im going to do is CHECK THE DAMN KNOT BEHIND THE HANDLE !!!!!!!!

All this hassle because a fisherman never tied the knot behind the handle

Hope u can tie a better knot on your line...

If u were in cowtown I could help u out as well.

cube · #20 01-03-2014, 08:10 AM

When you fix it you might consider putting a longer pull rope on. If you go back through the last couple of years threads the one issue that comes up for Eskimo is the pull ropes are too short and can cause damage to the recoil when over pulled.

You might also try putting some Crazy Glue on the knot (or shrink tubing) so your problem will KNOT return.

Have a great season

dodgeboy1979 · #21 01-03-2014, 08:48 AM

yup you should be able to just remove the rewind from the top and get the end of the pull line back out the hole and put your handle on and reknot. Or buy a Jiffy lol

tonypower · #22 01-03-2014, 08:58 AM

I have the same auger. I went to the garage last night and tied another knot in the rope. Thanks for the heads up. Hope you get your auger fixed soon.

Hunter Trav · #23 01-03-2014, 09:03 AM

When you get the rope back through the handle and re-tie your knot, melt the tag end with a lighter so you get a nice ball on it. Will help to keep the knot from slipping on you again. As far as the actual fix, pull the recoil off, find the end of the rope and stick it back through the hole. Test pull it off the machine to see if it will rewind all the way back in when fully extended. Sometimes they unwind a little bit and all you need to do is let the rope back in all the way, wind the recoil up a couple of turns and try it again. Hope that helps...

CanadianBadass · #24 01-03-2014, 09:21 AM

Called Eskimo this morning,

Me: Hi, I bought a Z71 about 6 months ago, Last time out the cord sucked into the recoil ,

Eskimo : Can you send me the serial # and we will send you out a new Recoil at N/C

Me: Really, Just like that .... No hassle ?

Eskimo : Again we would like to thank you for using our products, I will also send you a free T-Shirt

Me: Really ? Well ty .... Have a good day.

Eskimo : Again thanks for your purchase ! Have a great day !

Wow, Eskimo had almost a no question warranty on this item, I'm now again very thankful for buying Better quality !

Moonwalker · #25 01-03-2014, 02:27 PM

I just got a new Eskimo, used it a couple times now in the past couple weeks and so far I love it. First thing I'm doing when I get home tonight is tying another knot in the rope! lol

huntsfurfish · #26 01-03-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by canadianbadass

called eskimo this morning,

me: hi, i bought a z71 about 6 months ago, last time out the cord sucked into the recoil ,

eskimo : can you send me the serial # and we will send you out a new recoil at n/c

me: really, just like that .... No hassle ?

eskimo : again we would like to thank you for using our products, i will also send you a free t-shirt

me: really ? Well ty .... Have a good day.

eskimo : again thanks for your purchase ! Have a great day !

wow, eskimo had almost a no question warranty on this item, i'm now again very thankful for buying better quality !

lol

CanadianBadass · #27 01-03-2014, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonwalker

I just got a new Eskimo, used it a couple times now in the past couple weeks and so far I love it. First thing I'm doing when I get home tonight is tying another knot in the rope! lol

Good idea lol

CanadianBadass · #28 01-03-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by huntsfurfish

lol

I don't care what any one says, Ive used Jiffys, Husqs And My z71 way out performs them ,Not even close And way better quality !

huntsfurfish · #29 01-03-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianBadass

I don't care what any one says, Ive used Jiffys, Husqs And My z71 way out performs them ,Not even close And way better quality !

Nelly · #30 01-03-2014, 05:24 PM

Z71 all the way! Heavy but, wow does it cut a hole.