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Old 11-28-2022, 01:49 PM
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Thumbs up Canadian Hunters Against Bill C 21

Action Item Request: https://hunter.good.do/huntersagains...nst_Bill_C-21/
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:59 PM
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Thanks for the link. Done.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:08 PM
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:28 PM
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Done. Thanks for the link.

Do other MP's have the responsibility to look into emails from non constituents? I live in conservative stronghold like most of us. Does it do any use sending emails to politicians in other areas?
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:45 PM
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Done here as well…Thanks for linking us up
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:49 PM
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While I strongly disagree with his stance regarding the OIC and handgun "freeze", I was somewhat pleased to see Gord Johns state that the NDP will not support this latest BS:

Dear Matt,

Thank you for reaching out about the new amendment proposed by the Liberals for C-21. I understand and agree with your concerns. The goal of this legislation, we believed, was to get dangerous handguns off our streets, not criminalize hunters.

Since the Liberals introduced this last-minute change to their firearms bill - introduced without our knowledge or consent - many hunters have raised concerns regarding the potential impact of these changes. We are taking these concerns very seriously and are pressing the government for clarity on how this will impact hunters.

The NDP does support the goal of getting military-style assault weapons off the street and with a freeze on handguns. We do not believe the government should target hunters or farmers, and all Indigenous and Treaty rights must be respected.

We are pressing the Liberals to ensure that hunters, farmers and Indigenous people are not targeted by these changes.

We will not support amendments to the Bill that ban guns primarily used for hunting or protecting farm animals from predators, nor will we support amendments to the Bill that do not respect treaty rights and the rights of Indigenous people.

There is still time to do this right and you can rest assured that your concerns will inform our actions on this important legislation.

Kindly,


Gord Johns, M.P.
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:03 PM
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If you are interested, now is the time to write your Senator:

Dear Senator ****,

I am writing to you today as a Canadian citizen and a resident of BC to request that you and other members of the senate send Bill C-21 back to parliament for proper debate.

As I am sure you are aware this bill is cobbled together with various Orders In Council and amendments made to the bill after committee debate had closed. The amendments made after committee and the use of the Order In Councils have deprived myself and other Canadians of having our elected representatives being able to fully and completely debate this act in parliament, therefore depriving me and other Canadians of our right to be properly represented by our elected officials.

This bill is particularly onerous for many reasons, my three main concerns are:

It is clearly directed at millions of Canadian firearms owners who have been tested, vetted, licensed and monitored by the RCMP and does nothing to address any of the real issues facing Canadians because of criminal gangs and their willingness to engage in violence using illegally acquired firearms, or the smuggling of those firearms into Canada.

By including all of the previously “banned” firearms into the amendment it has the look of possibly evading the earlier promised “buy back”. This is particularly frightening as the only protection Canadians have from confiscation of privately held property without cause or compensation is legal precedent going back to the Magna Carta. There is no protection of property rights in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This bill involves confiscation without cause, possibly without compensation and at least without adequate compensation. Therefore it is a significant infringement upon the freedoms and property rights of millions of law abiding Canadians firearms owners and possibly a significant erosion of the property rights of all Canadians.

The amendment intentionally targets a great many firearms currently and historically used for hunting & sport shooting in Canada. Despite the government's assurances they would not be targeting hunters, farmers and sport shooters, they most definitely are. I am both a lifelong hunter and sports shooter in my sixties, and have been involved with those activities all of my adult life.

There are other aspects to C-21 which are problematic as well but I do not wish to waste your time with a dozen page dissection of the issues and concerns I have with this bill.

In short Bill C-21 is onerous, expensive, ineffective, unreasonable and worthy of return to parliament if for no other reason than the opportunity for proper debate.

Best regards.
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Old 11-28-2022, 04:04 PM
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Thanks for posting that but I won’t be sending it to my mp, Dane Lloyd. He has the same position on it as us and has enough on his plate dealing with mentally challenged liberals.
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Thanks for posting that but I won’t be sending it to my mp, Dane Lloyd. He has the same position on it as us and has enough on his plate dealing with mentally challenged liberals.
Then send one to your Senator...
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:04 PM
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Done. Thank you.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:46 PM
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Done. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:28 PM
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Done, thank you for the link.
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Old 11-28-2022, 08:56 PM
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done. and forwarded to people who aren't on the AO.
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:19 PM
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Then send one to your Senator...
How do you find "your senator"? I can find a complete list of senators and their emails but senators don't represent regional interests. How do you choose one to contact?
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:21 PM
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Not just one, Libs, NDP, independents.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:16 AM
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:27 AM
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Old 11-29-2022, 06:16 AM
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Done but low expectations on it having an impact
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Old 11-29-2022, 06:45 AM
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My MP is Dane Lloyd so I used the form to send a thank you letter for his efforts.
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:25 PM
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How do you find "your senator"? I can find a complete list of senators and their emails but senators don't represent regional interests. How do you choose one to contact?
Google Senator for - insert your town & province here...

Easy.

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Old 11-29-2022, 12:29 PM
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:33 PM
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According to Google, Alberta has 4 senators. One was appointed by Harper and 3 by the Turd….
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:37 PM
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According to Google, Alberta has 4 senators. One was appointed by Harper and 3 by the Turd….
Write them all...
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Old 11-29-2022, 12:42 PM
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Done. Thanks for the link!
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Old 11-29-2022, 01:53 PM
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Here is a response from my MP:

Dear "WDF",
Thank you for your email. I always appreciate hearing from constituents.
The recently announced changes to Bill C-21, which now includes an illogical national handgun freeze and ban on hunting rifles, is yet another violation of the rights of law-abiding, licensed, firearm owners.
The Liberal government has failed to properly address the gun violence problem in this country, and instead has focused all their attention on legal firearms owners.
This move is just another impractical policy that does nothing to fight the rising levels of crime in our country.
Trudeau clearly doesn’t understand that most firearm-related offenses are perpetrated by criminals, who illegally possess firearms through the black market that are smuggled across our border.
Canada’s Conservatives will continue to stand up for the rights of gun-owners in the House of Commons and I will continue to fight this unjust overreach.
You can see some of the work I’ve done on this issue https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=HzE3Vr7lAwc
Please know that I value your feedback on this issue as it helps me best represent our community in Parliament.
Again, thank you for writing.

Sincerely,
Blake Richards, MP
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Old 11-29-2022, 02:29 PM
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CCFR recommends paper letters in addition to e-mails:

"Consider also sending one to the NDP public safety critic ALISTAIR MACGREGOR and the Bloq public safety critic KRISTINA MICHAUD. Address them all to the same address, but use their names. NO STAMP IS REQUIRED!!"

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Old 11-29-2022, 02:32 PM
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Also,
Minister of Public Safety
Marco E. L. Mendicino

How about to all members of Public Safety Committee?
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Committees...l=44&session=1

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Old 11-29-2022, 02:33 PM
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https://www.costco.ca/top-flight-no....100425429.html
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