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11-03-2022, 02:53 PM
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Experience with TTSX
I was wondering what everyones experience with Barnes TTSX
I'm asking as the 100gr TTSX out of my 257WBY (factory ammo) had about 50% weight retion on my elk at 85 yards.
The bullet went through bolth sholders if that matters
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11-03-2022, 03:09 PM
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punched stem to stern of a 300lb muley with a 243 80 ttsx @ 297 lasered yds ...drt ... will never take that shot again... lungs and guts thoroughly mixed to a soup ... never seen that kind of internal damage before ... had a similar texas heart shot with a 220gr core lokt in a 30-06 and no where near the same damage ... i do like the ttsx but only for shoulders and double lung going forward
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11-03-2022, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 338wea
I was wondering what everyones experience with Barnes TTSX
I'm asking as the 100gr TTSX out of my 257WBY (factory ammo) had about 50% weight retion on my elk at 85 yards.
The bullet went through bolth sholders if that matters
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Do you have a picture of it?
That bullet is going unbelievably fast out of a 257 wby
Not many would have a chance of staying together
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11-03-2022, 03:50 PM
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100 grain Barnes TTSX out of a 25-06....
The only TTSX I have ever seen was on line. I have never recovered a single round from deer or elk.
The wound channel the TTSX creates, is absolutely amazing.....
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11-03-2022, 03:51 PM
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Ya most are never recovered
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11-03-2022, 04:10 PM
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I have recovered very few TTSX bullets , but they always penetrate well, and usually expand well, as long as the impact velocity is adequate. The recommended minimum impact velocity is 1800-2000fps, but I prefer to be in the 2400-2500fps or greater range. If a 100gr TTSX penetrated both front shoulders of an elk,and it expanded enough to lose all petals, then it did its job.
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11-03-2022, 06:04 PM
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I used a 100gr factory TTSX out of a 25-06. 60 Yard shot. Deer went 20 Yards max. No Bullet recovered, but a ton of blood. First time using a Barnes...I would use again.
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11-03-2022, 06:21 PM
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file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/a7/07/2BE7AE73-1938-4604-8DAF-A5B4E99BDD48/IMG_4044.JPG
Here’s a picture
Out of 257 WBY recover from elk
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11-03-2022, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 338wea
file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/a7/07/2BE7AE73-1938-4604-8DAF-A5B4E99BDD48/IMG_4044.JPG
Here’s a picture
Out of 257 WBY recover from elk
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Hope the link works right.
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11-03-2022, 06:53 PM
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I’ve recovered quite a few from game. They end up in all kinds of shapes.
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11-03-2022, 07:52 PM
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I shoot a hot 168 grain out of my 30-06, just started using it last year and shot a moose and a deer, all through and through shots, moose was 100 yards away and put 3 shots through and 1 on the deer.
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11-03-2022, 09:56 PM
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I’ve shot lots of game, some of it plains game in Africa with a 140gr out of my 280 rem with some impact velocities down in that 2000fps range. Always had great results and recovered a couple. Some were perfect 100% weight retention or very close and a couple lost pedals. Mostly higher velocity close distance is what lost the petals. Also shot a cow elk with 100gr out of my 25-06, no bullets recovered the there.
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11-04-2022, 07:34 AM
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Since my hunting buddy and I switched to TTSX's, we have yet to recover one. 7mm Rem Mag 150grain in both rifles.
-Bull Moose @100yds through both shoulder (160 grain TSX)
-2 x Buck Mules @100 and 225
-4 Does 75-250yds
-WT Buck 250 yds
These are closer shots for sure, even at the mid 200's those bullets are still trucking. Does not surprise me one bit @85 yards it zipped through that elk.
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11-04-2022, 07:57 AM
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Big Elk and Big Moose stop just about everything. Even Barnes bullets.
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11-04-2022, 08:05 AM
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One cow elk and about 6 deer and I’ve yet to recover one. 120gr TTSX out of a 7mm RM at 3300fps.
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11-04-2022, 09:26 AM
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Had a 185 grain Barnes ttsx shot from a 338 win mag pass through a big Yukon moose at 340 yards. The moose made a quarter turn, wobbled a bit and fell over.
Apparently the 185 ttsx is the only bullet that Coni Brooks uses.
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11-04-2022, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowmanbob
Had a 185 grain Barnes ttsx shot from a 338 win mag pass through a big Yukon moose at 340 yards. The moose made a quarter turn, wobbled a bit and fell over.
Apparently the 185 ttsx is the only bullet that Coni Brooks uses.
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Bob, how do you find that bullet overall?
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11-04-2022, 10:49 AM
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Going that fast at such a short distance and hitting a bunch of bone, something has to give.
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11-04-2022, 12:53 PM
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168gr TSX out of my 30.06 pass through on a big Willmore bull moose last year.
He was quartering to, and the entry went through the right shoulder with exit through the second last rib on his left side.
Distance was 410yds ranged. Wound channel was not super wide, but both lungs deflated and a broken shoulder did the trick.
Bull spun 180 degrees and dropped. His head was still up so I put one through the base of his neck a few seconds later.
I imagine a TTSX would behave similarly. I very much like an exit wound, makes tracking much easier.
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11-04-2022, 01:38 PM
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The ones I’ve recovered have 97-99% weight retention. The only reason you recovered yours I’m guessing is because you smashed through heavy bone.
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11-04-2022, 01:40 PM
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I have found 1 ttsx that came out of my Father's Massive body wt. It went in the front left chest area went right to the back right ham hide stopped it. 394 m was the distance with 2900 fps at muzzle. 160 gr ttsx. 159 weight retention. I would recommend a different weight drop at least 20 gr to a 140 in a 7mm rem. Need speed to open them up. It barely had any expansion at that range. Switched to accubonds, cheaper and don't need to worry past 300 m for expansion. Out of your .257 weatherby I would expect the exact results. That's a rocket
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11-04-2022, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda610
I have found 1 ttsx that came out of my Father's Massive body wt. It went in the front left chest area went right to the back right ham hide stopped it. 394 m was the distance with 2900 fps at muzzle. 160 gr ttsx. 159 weight retention. I would recommend a different weight drop at least 20 gr to a 140 in a 7mm rem. Need speed to open them up. It barely had any expansion at that range. Switched to accubonds, cheaper and don't need to worry past 300 m for expansion. Out of your .257 weatherby I would expect the exact results. That's a rocket
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Accubonds aren't cheaper now. But you are correct about using lighter for caliber bullets with the TTSX.
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11-04-2022, 01:57 PM
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Accubonds aren't cheaper now.
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They are more expensive now in most places I saw them.
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11-04-2022, 02:39 PM
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I am glad I was using them instead of the select interlocks I have
I have a box of 110 ELD-X that I will probably load for the 257, just don't wanna load them too hot
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11-04-2022, 02:43 PM
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Have accubonds ever been cheaper than Barnes bullets?
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11-04-2022, 02:56 PM
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I have tried TTSX in many different calibers including the 100gr in 257bee
Now I don't use them on anything.
The reason is I find that they do tend to kill game, but almost every time(except a spine shot) the game runs. Sometimes only 20-30 yards, but sometimes several 100 yards. Now this test run, is close to 30 animals over the last 10 years myself, family and freinds.
Now in a open field, no big deal.
On a bighorn hunt, not ideal. Also on private land that game could possibly jump the fence after being shot not ideal.
The good:
They tend to be accurate
They usually give a blood trail
They break bones if you hit them.
The Bad:
Game runs after being hit 90% of the time(my experience)
They are expensive.
They copper foul worse than some other bullets
If impact velocity is lower than 2000fps then they tend not to open up very much.
Remember deer,elk,moose are not wearing body armor, cup and core works, and bonded works.
Weatherby loads 100gr spire point for a reason, they work and they kill good.
Im not saying don't buy TTSX but just know what they are and what they are not.
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11-04-2022, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leeelmer
I have tried TTSX in many different calibers including the 100gr in 257bee
Now I don't use them on anything.
The reason is I find that they do tend to kill game, but almost every time(except a spine shot) the game runs. Sometimes only 20-30 yards, but sometimes several 100 yards. Now this test run, is close to 30 animals over the last 10 years myself, family and freinds.
Now in a open field, no big deal.
On a bighorn hunt, not ideal. Also on private land that game could possibly jump the fence after being shot not ideal.
The good:
They tend to be accurate
They usually give a blood trail
They break bones if you hit them.
The Bad:
Game runs after being hit 90% of the time(my experience)
They are expensive.
They copper foul worse than some other bullets
If impact velocity is lower than 2000fps then they tend not to open up very much.
Remember deer,elk,moose are not wearing body armor, cup and core works, and bonded works.
Weatherby loads 100gr spire point for a reason, they work and they kill good.
Im not saying don't buy TTSX but just know what they are and what they are not.
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That hasn't been my experience at all driving the 150TTSX at 3400fps out of the 7mmstw or the 180gr TTSX at 3380fps out of the 300RUM. With the higher velocity, I get very quick kills on deer, elk and moose. I also haven't had an issue with copper fouling.
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11-04-2022, 04:00 PM
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That hasn't been my experience at all driving the 150TTSX at 3400fps out of the 7mmstw or the 180gr TTSX at 3380fps out of the 300RUM. With the higher velocity, I get very quick kills on deer, elk and moose. I also haven't had an issue with copper fouling.
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Everyone I know shooting TTSX or TSX bullets has had exceptional kills with them, myself included.
Even at 708 and 308 velocities we rarely have animals run, the furthest one of mine went was maybe 20 yards, with no bones broken and that was shot over 300 yards out of a .303 with a 150 TSX.
I don't see a lot of copper fouling, no more than normal, and they kill very well in my experience.
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11-04-2022, 04:04 PM
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Bob, how do you find that bullet overall?
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I like it, recoil is tolerable in a light rifle compared to using heavy bullets. MV is around 3100 FPS. On another Yukon moose shot at 240 yards the bullet was recovered under the hide. This ttsx had broken a rib coming and going. Can’t see a need for heavier bullets with this amount of penetration.
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11-04-2022, 04:11 PM
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Well I guess I bought enough Accubonds back when things were cheap....as in a long time ago....
I looked through some of my loading Stash....
.338 Interlocks 250 gr 100 count 48.99
.243 interlocks 100gr 100 count 21.99
7mm accubonds 160 gr 45.99
7mm sst 100 count 29.99
30 cal 165 accubonds 45.50
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