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Old 11-26-2022, 07:30 PM
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So Trudeau says believe it or not that his cabinet determines what is an emergency or not
I might be wrong, but I always thought the law determines that.
Suppose to be the local authorities ask for help when they are overwhelmed. Then the local Council moves that to the province. Who determines what help is required and if they can provide.
If they can not provide enough services or required services they move it up the line to the Federal level.
The key is each level has to request the help and services for the next level.

Unless such a dire consequence exist that the lower level authorities are overwhelmed to the point of failure the next level or higher level can assume control to provide assistance.

For example the Floods in Alberta, High River and Canmore local authority's and council were overwhelmed so the province stepped in and assumed control. Asked for Federal assistance for various help. SAR, Transport etc.

What Trudeau did was circumvent both municipal and provincial authorities along with other Federal services and enacted the EMA on his own accord. He over stepped his position and abused his authority to quell the the racist, fringe minority.
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Old 11-26-2022, 11:40 PM
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Suppose to be the local authorities ask for help when they are overwhelmed. Then the local Council moves that to the province. Who determines what help is required and if they can provide.
If they can not provide enough services or required services they move it up the line to the Federal level.
The key is each level has to request the help and services for the next level.

Unless such a dire consequence exist that the lower level authorities are overwhelmed to the point of failure the next level or higher level can assume control to provide assistance.

For example the Floods in Alberta, High River and Canmore local authority's and council were overwhelmed so the province stepped in and assumed control. Asked for Federal assistance for various help. SAR, Transport etc.

What Trudeau did was circumvent both municipal and provincial authorities along with other Federal services and enacted the EMA on his own accord. He over stepped his position and abused his authority to quell the the racist, fringe minority.


The little potatoes bought and paid for judge of this all won’t see it this way.

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Old 11-27-2022, 05:49 AM
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I really think this should have been a jury not a judge case. Easy to hand pick the right judge, not so easy to get 12 people to do the same.
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:20 AM
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Although you can't call it unnecessary, this whole inquiry thing is concocted to present the illusion that the federal government may have to answer for it's mistakes, and that there are checks and oversights that the Trudeau liberals will adhere to. As we all know by now, this government fully believes it is in fact, above the law, and if necessary, will change the law, absent of parliamentary procedure to meet it's own goals, however ludicrous and unconstitutional those goals are.
This whole thing will be mostly forgotten in six months, and regardless the outcome, the only thing that will change is Trudeau will become bolder in his disregard for the Canadian Charter of Rights.
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Old 11-27-2022, 01:18 PM
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He should just admit to the emergency measure act. If that what worked to shut the truckers protest down then that was good thing. Had to leave some time can’t shut down city for two months
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Old 11-27-2022, 01:41 PM
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He should just admit to the emergency measure act. If that what worked to shut the truckers protest down then that was good thing. Had to leave some time can’t shut down city for two months
The city wasn't shut down. I have relatives and friends living there, they went to work, recreated, went to concerts, hockey games, shopped, lived normally and did their everyday activities. They were not affected at all. If they didn't watch the news and didn't go to the few blocks near the parliament buildings they would never have known about it. If they did go down there they were free to walk around, visit with the truckers have a hamburger and coffee with them, listen to music and entertainment, nobody was in any danger. The media and gov't made it sound like the whole city was blockaded, citizens were prisoners hiding in their homes from terrorists, starving in the dark afraid for their lives. Nonsense.
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:44 PM
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If justice doesn't prevail, then the only alternative will be Ottawa 2.0
Just saying
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Old 11-28-2022, 09:29 AM
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https://nationalpost.com/opinion/a-s...mergencies-act
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:52 AM
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Good summery ! ! ! !

Did you read this?

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the convoy should never have been allowed to entrench itself on Parliament Hill and should have been cleared as soon as Ottawa police devised a credible plan and received provincial and federal reinforcements.
That is John Ivison speaking. He is not quoting anyone, he is offering his opinion.

The police failed to act because it was a legal, peaceful protest. They had no legal grounds upon which to act.

John Ivison fails to mention that fact. Instead he suggests they did have legal grounds to act.

He trying to appear impartial but his words reveal a strong bias against the protest.
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Old 11-28-2022, 11:07 AM
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Wandering around with flags and posters that said ***** Trudeau was a dangerous threat to national security!!
Imagine how offended Canadians must have been!!!
People were being rude about Dear Leader
That REALLY constituted a reason to suspend the civil rights of all Canadians and to freeze bank accounts.
They should be glad we're not living in North Korea (yet) then they'd see what people who insult the Dear Leader really deserve.

PS besides Daddy suspended everyone's civil rights in 1970 and people still think he's great.
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Old 11-29-2022, 10:36 AM
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Trudeau’s response today on the Covid lockdown protests in China is that all people have a right to protest and be heard. He is so two faced. Lol.

At the same time he clamped down hard on protests… just like China is now doing.

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Old 11-29-2022, 12:31 PM
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Trudeau’s response today on the Covid lockdown protests in China is that all people have a right to protest and be heard. He is so two faced. Lol.

At the same time he clamped down hard on protests… just like China is now doing.

Now in all fairness he only clamped down on hard work, law biding protesters. He attended all the virtue signalling protest. Not a bad record for shutting down protest.
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