Veterans want more than we can afford -Trudeau

[HowSwedeItIs]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/just...nton-1.4515822

When you think about all the things that Ottawa has thrown money at over the last few years, does this make any sense?

[HighlandHeart]

It doesn't make sense. I expect he will sing a different tune when he starts campaigning for the next election. Then he will make the same promises he made to vets before this election.

[dmcbride]

Trudeau can afford to take vets to court, but taking Omar to court would cost too much money.

[2 Tollers]

Trudeau walks on the world stage and tosses out $180M, throws money away to others like there is no end and freezes out the people that fight for our way of life. Makes no sense to me but in his mind and world it does. Says a lot about him and his values re Canada.

[elkhunter11]

Yet we can give millions to terrorists, refugees, and foreign governments, instead of giving our veterans what they deserve?

[Sooner]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

Trudeau can afford to take vets to court, but taking Omar to court would cost too much money.

Agree

[Sooner]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Yet we can give millions to terrorists, refugees, and foreign governments, instead of giving our veterans what they deserve?

It's disgraceful isn't it.

[Hillbilly 12]

Yea how discussing, I watched the meeting in Edmonton last night. He said he saved us money by settling with Omar kadar, why doesn't he give our veterans the same treatment, after all they deserve it more than anyone. Giving kadar was total treason. He would rather donate hundreds of millions to over seas issues, native issues, or the opioids crisis. He's more conserved with gender issues in prisons or whatever other discussing causes are out there. He is a total embarrassment and a disgrace. Trump all the way


There should be a country wide revolt.

[wags]

Originally Posted by HowSwedeItIs

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/just...nton-1.4515822

When you think about all the things that Ottawa has thrown money at over the last few years, does this make any sense?

So why haven't any of the previous non Liberal governments given it to them?

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Yet we can give millions to terrorists, refugees, and foreign governments, instead of giving our veterans what they deserve?

Yep, Harper ran deficits because of the world recession and spent money on infrastructure and Canadians. Trudeau is running record deficits outside a war or recession giving money away to dictators while selling our infrastructure (via infrastructure bank) while the world economy is booming.

[lmtada]

This is all linked. This example of Vets need more money is linked to upcoming pension crisis. This is Tip Iceberg.

Martin Armstrong states;
Blog/Pension Crisis
Posted Feb 2, 2018 by Martin Armstrong


Inevitably, all things must come to an end. Our entire problem with government is we have ZERO accountability and ZERO qualification standards to even run for office. The Democrats have put forth blacks and women, not because of their abilities, but simply because they want to score votes. The latest proposal was to put Oprah Winfrey up for president. She is black and a woman. This is the qualification requirement? This is like going to Jay Leno for brain surgery. This is why we are in such a crisis. Oprah may be a nice person, but that does not qualify her to make a decision in international relations no less economics.
We impose no qualifications to be a politician. Anyone can run for office. We are in serious trouble because we elect people who have no idea what is going on and just assume everything has been working so why change it? I have warned that the Central Banks in quantitative Easing set the stage for the next crisis. The excessive low-interest rates for nearly 10 years has undermined the pension system while all governments have borrowed like crazy never considering what happens if rates rise?
In Britain, (western nations), two out of three pension funds are in the deficit. In total, some British 3,710 pension schemes are in deficit according to the Pension Protection Fund watchdog. The entire Ponzi Scheme of pension is falling apart. We need crisis management right NOW and there isn’t a hope in hell of moving to such a position of a Crisis Manager. Millions of workers around the world who believed in government are going to see their futures wiped out.

There is going to have to be a NEW Cabinet position with dictatorial powers as a crisis manager. If we continue to ignore this issue, we are headed into a very serious Monetary Crisis and there is NOBODY in office that even understands the threat. So individually, we must ride this wave and to survive, we simply have to comprehend the nature of the crisis. The idiots who are in power will try to raise taxes to fill a deficit for one month. They are not addressing the crisis. This cannot be fixed by raising taxes. We need real CRISIS MANAGEMENT skills and soon.
Categories: Pension Crisis

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by wags

So why haven't any of the previous non Liberal governments given it to them?

Good point. The Harper government didn't campaign on a promise to restore pensions for life for wounded Veterans though. Justin did and it turned out to be a flat out lie.

[Hillbilly 12]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

Good point. The Harper government didn't campaign on a promise to restore pensions for life for wounded Veterans though. Justin did and it turned out to be a flat out lie.

And Harper was a billion times above numb nuts. Sorry no nuts.

[Trochu]

I know he had his warts, but I sure miss Harper.

[play.soccer]

that 10.5mil (plus the other 30mil to the 3 that the media went silent on) would have been used well for Vets.

[vcmm]

It's called take care of new voters and tough luck for the rest.

[graybeard]

Originally Posted by play.soccer

that 10.5mil (plus the other 30mil to the 3 that the media went silent on) would have been used well for Vets.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2017...n-foreign-aid/

[play.soccer]

Originally Posted by graybeard

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2017...n-foreign-aid/

Yeah thats a problem too.

[HowSwedeItIs]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

Trudeau can afford to take vets to court, but taking Omar to court would cost too much money.

Good point

[spinerfisher]

Justin and all Liberal supporters should be waving the ISIS flag since they
mean much more too them then any vet. Just sick.

[stinkynuts]

Trudeau is a wining the waste of skin he is ruining the country. The fact a country sends someone to war then turns there back on them when they get home is a joke and makes me embarrassed to be Canadian

[airbornedeerhunter]

I wonder where all the Judas' from the Canadian Veterans Advocacy are these days? You know the whinger and moaner in chief Mike Blais, his partner in tears Ron Clark and the rest of their minions? Those bozos cried and stamped their feet, cursed Harper ( even though it was Paul Martin who brought in the New Veterans Charter and got rid of the pension act of 1919) and actively campaigned for Trudeau, stood behind him when he promised to restore the pension act on Aug 24th 2015 in Belleville Ont. And now? Crickets. These "veterans" turned their backs on their own kind for their 30 pieces of silver and are now too embarrassed to show their faces near a tv camera that they were all too eager to cry in front of 2 years ago.

[operator john]

But he has nice hair and promised to legalize marijuana!!

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by airbornedeerhunter

I wonder where all the Judas' from the Canadian Veterans Advocacy are these days? You know the whinger and moaner in chief Mike Blais, his partner in tears Ron Clark and the rest of their minions? Those bozos cried and stamped their feet, cursed Harper ( even though it was Paul Martin who brought in the New Veterans Charter and got rid of the pension act of 1919) and actively campaigned for Trudeau, stood behind him when he promised to restore the pension act on Aug 24th 2015 in Belleville Ont. And now? Crickets. These "veterans" turned their backs on their own kind for their 30 pieces of silver and are now too embarrassed to show their faces near a tv camera that they were all too eager to cry in front of 2 years ago.

Don't get me going with those traitorous pigs!

Both camps were funded by unions to bring Harper down.

Blais ended up getting kicked off the Veterans Advisory Board by the Liberals. He had served his purpose and was no longer required. I was very delighted to hear that news. ABC dissolved right after Justin got elected and Blais is irrelevant now.

I have a lot of time for that Major (his name escapes me at the moment) who is a spokesman for the Equitas Group. He can represent me anytime!

[Bellero]

Mark Campbell

Originally Posted by HunterDave

Don't get me going with those traitorous pigs!

Both camps were funded by unions to bring Harper down.

Blais ended up getting kicked off the Veterans Advisory Board by the Liberals. He had served his purpose and was no longer required. I was very delighted to hear that news. ABC dissolved right after Justin got elected and Blais is irrelevant now.

I have a lot of time for that Major (his name escapes me at the moment) who is a spokesman for the Equitas Group. He can represent me anytime!

[greybeard]

The vet who led the fight to re-establish veterans' offices lives right across the street from me. He has had to fight against every political party since 1953.
When the new pension was finally paid some of the vets got $ 700.00 because they only qualified for a percentage. My neighbour is in his late eighties. He has no fight left in him. This low pension was the last indignity he could suffer.
The pensions could be well funded if there was the political will to do it. Now the vets are passing away and many voices are silent. This is indeed a black eye against all vets and their families. At every political discussion please mention the need to back our vets as they have done for us; this is the only thing my neighbour asks. Peace.

[Bellero]

The fact remains that the new veterans charter was drafted in 2004-2005 by the Chrétien/Martin liberals, then they introduced it in the House of Commons, elections followed in 2006 and Harper got a minority gov't.

When it was time to vote on it, all four parties voted in favour of it, not a single vote against. Gov't lawyers (which by the way don't change no matter who is in power) claimed that the gov't has no social contract with veterans. It was blamed on Harper even if he never said it. They repeated it again recently under Trudeau as well.

A lawyer and veterans advocate (can't remember his name, heard him on the radio) estimated that the gov't is saving between 4.5 to 5 billions a year by not awarding lifetime pensions and replacing them with lump sums payments. that's a lot of money.

While most Canadians support veterans, they don't care enough to make it a voting issue so politicians have nothing to gain from helping vets and spending that kind of money.

If you look at the track record of both LPC and CPC in the last 50 years in regards to vets and DND, evidence shows that liberals are the absolute worst so I would personnally rank CPC as a small notch above.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by 2 Tollers

Trudeau walks on the world stage and tosses out $180M, throws money away to others like there is no end and freezes out the people that fight for our way of life. Makes no sense to me but in his mind and world it does. Says a lot about him and his values re Canada.

Yup, open the door to know terrorists too....feed, throw money out but a soldier comes home beat down physically and mentally and there is to much thrown out to the vets...

He best stay in the Ontario area big cities like to feel wanted....