Fortis thugs

[Ruffnuts]

Anyone with a power line and a tree in your yard beware. They apparently can enter your yard whenever they please. Both me and the wife have been isolating because my health won't win a battle with covid Since March we have been house bound only leaving for groceries at Walmart which they load we bring them home and process. Them we have one stop to pick up my medications to control my problems. So today I hear heavy banging at the front door like maybe a emergency or police trying to get your attention scared the hell out the wife. Look o the camera here is a guy in my backyard he forced the gate open to get in. No mask no gloves no protection dogs were in the house wife let's the dogs guess the first place they go sniffing. It was fortis arborist sub contractor this is bull**** now we wait to see if we get sick. Cops can't charged them cause fortis is exempt. Talked to someone at fortis Brady irrongant big boss so is you see a fortis truck or there tree division watch out. Call3d global they may look into it. So your private yard is yours and fortis. This is my opinion but facts are there. There big boss response was what if a fire started because of the tre. 2 months ago the transformer blew up up the pole and was burning to fire department spray water and blew that shir all o order the neighbors garden. They reattached a new transformer to a ratting old pole that just got heated up. This is my opinion. Asked them what they would do to clean up his path at door and backyard. There going to send a guy out with a bottle of spray nine. My opinion this bs. There is a pandemic morons this is my only safeplace thanks for reading old guy with concerns

[leo]

If they stayed on what is deemed as their Utility Right of Way, then they're able to access it to trim or remove any trees coming in conflict with their utility. Saying that, common courtesy of coming to your front door to inform you of their activity goes a long way. As any other work, the guy that came to your door is just doing his job. No use tying into him. Send a letter to Fortis asking for their safe work procedures regarding covid. If the procedure wasn't followed, then raise hell.

[nimrod]

I hear your experience with Fortis they seems to do what ever they want now with no regard for the people that are paying there salary.

[coreya3212]

Originally Posted by leo

If they stayed on what is deemed as their Utility Right of Way, then they're able to access it to trim or remove any trees coming in conflict with their utility. Saying that, common courtesy of coming to your front door to inform you of their activity goes a long way. As any other work, the guy that came to your door is just doing his job. No use tying into him. Send a letter to Fortis asking for their safe work procedures regarding covid. If the procedure wasn't followed, then raise hell.

Just for clarity, I asked fortis what they could and couldn’t do without permission, I was told they could trim trees without permission but could not remove trees without permission. I guess trimmed could mean down to near ground level....anyway that was my info.

[Jayhad]

I'm with Fortis on this one

[EZM]

Most properties will have a right of way. It was in place when you purchased the property.

The right of way exists to maintain a safe and reliable utility. This includes access to the property and the ability to mitigate hazards like tree branches, etc...

That is on your utilities agreement and city, county, or MD property and right of use and easement contract.

That's the way it is.

As far as these guys knocking on your door, that was a proper courtesy. If the guy was, in fact, banging on your door in the manner you described - then yeah I would be annoyed too.

As far as safe Covid practices, they, as in any organization, needs to have safe, reasonable mitigation measures and safety rules to follow. My guess is because most of their work is outside and not in near contact to individuals - it probably isn't as robust as some people would like to be.

Hopefully you and your wife ore OK, and I'm confident the risk is likely very low.

[bobtodrick]

Also I'll wager he knocked, didn't get an answer and then started knocking louder.
I've dealt with them on my property in the past...no issues.
Without the other side of the story I'm with Fortis on this one.

[Smoky buck]

Let the man do his job he is only maintaining the power lines so you can jump on the computer and complain about it

I have a few friends who are utility arborist’s and the crap they deal with from some people is nuts. Pretty sad when they have had RCMP supervise some jobs just to trim a tree around the lines do to death threats

Sorry for your health issues but that doesn’t mean you’re entitled to make others lives difficult

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Jayhad

I'm with Fortis on this one

Somebody has been self isolating for too long.

Grizz

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Should cut your power off then you can really isolate lol.

[Dewey Cox]

Apparently my last comment came across as offensive.
Let me clarify.
The power grid is something bigger than just you.
Your power line isn't an island all on its own.
Being tied on to the grid comes with some obligations. And letting people from the power company in your yard for maintainance is one of them.
If this is too much obligation for you to accept, have your line disconnected, and make your own power. (That is a real option, lots of people do it. I'm not just saying "freeze in the dark")

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by leo

If they stayed on what is deemed as their Utility Right of Way, then they're able to access it to trim or remove any trees coming in conflict with their utility. Saying that, common courtesy of coming to your front door to inform you of their activity goes a long way. As any other work, the guy that came to your door is just doing his job. No use tying into him. Send a letter to Fortis asking for their safe work procedures regarding covid. If the procedure wasn't followed, then raise hell.

Exactly but be tactful in your delivery cause you might loose your audience real quick like.

[Redneck 7]

We called fortis about a spruce that snapped 3/4 the way up and the top 1/4 was hanging down over the power line. They said they’d look into it within 5 business days. So we couldn’t park in our main driveway or walk under this widow maker. Anyways buddy showed up 10 days later and said nope nothing we can do, he said the power line had a cover so it’s protected.

I was quite torqued about this so I had to cut down a 50’ tall spruce tree in my yard that I didn’t want gone.

There was no safe way for me to get up there and cut it down besides renting an awp so I just dropped the whole tree. Sure made my power line stretch when the tree fell over. Both power poles were shaking pretty good, I kinda wished at the time that the line broke. Then I could call them and say come fix my power, the tree you said wouldn’t be a problem is now a problem.

Sorry you had another bad experience with them, I was quite surprised you actually had someone come do line maintenance.

[Ruffnuts]

Thanks for feedback positive and negative. There welcome to access the tree providing they call first and where a mask.i wont apologize to anyone to protect myself from stupid people.Fortis is going change the way they access your property during a pandemic. It was a heads up not a fingerup

[does it ALL outdoors]

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[fishinhogdaddy]

Originally Posted by Ruffnuts

Anyone with a power line and a tree in your yard beware. They apparently can enter your yard whenever they please. Both me and the wife have been isolating because my health won't win a battle with covid Since March we have been house bound only leaving for groceries at Walmart which they load we bring them home and process. Them we have one stop to pick up my medications to control my problems. So today I hear heavy banging at the front door like maybe a emergency or police trying to get your attention scared the hell out the wife. Look o the camera here is a guy in my backyard he forced the gate open to get in. No mask no gloves no protection dogs were in the house wife let's the dogs guess the first place they go sniffing. It was fortis arborist sub contractor this is bull**** now we wait to see if we get sick. Cops can't charged them cause fortis is exempt. Talked to someone at fortis Brady irrongant big boss so is you see a fortis truck or there tree division watch out. Call3d global they may look into it. So your private yard is yours and fortis. This is my opinion but facts are there. There big boss response was what if a fire started because of the tre. 2 months ago the transformer blew up up the pole and was burning to fire department spray water and blew that shir all o order the neighbors garden. They reattached a new transformer to a ratting old pole that just got heated up. This is my opinion. Asked them what they would do to clean up his path at door and backyard. There going to send a guy out with a bottle of spray nine. My opinion this bs. There is a pandemic morons this is my only safeplace thanks for reading old guy with concerns

Sending my best wishes for both health and happiness to you and yours.
FHD

[sweld]

No different then them coming to check your gas meter.


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[JeanCretien]

Fortis always been good to us. Usually phone me so I leave the gate open.
Maybe just your branch manager that has a bad attitude.
ATCO usually sends us a letter to let us know they are going to tear things up. No mercy -but caraganas come back stronger every time they cut them.


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[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by JeanCretien

[...] -but caraganas come back stronger every time they cut them.

That's 'cause you can't kill those freakin' things! I've tried!

ARG

[amosfella]

Originally Posted by Au revoir, Gopher

That's 'cause you can't kill those freakin' things! I've tried!

ARG

Yes, you can kill caragana. You just have to want it to live where you put it. Next thing you know, it's dead.

[amosfella]

I've never had trouble with Arborteck. They've been pretty great for me. The chipped up a pile of wood that I had laying around while they were there, and did some extra pruning on trees that was outside my scope to do. They also brought us piles and piles of wood chips that dad wanted rather than taking them to the dump.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by amosfella

Yes, you can kill caragana. You just have to want it to live where you put it. Next thing you know, it's dead.

Goats do a first class job.

Grizz

[blgoodbrand1]

Well i can’t speak to fortis but the atco contractor that was at my place several times throughout the summer...8 guys with saws spent 1 day bucking up a 30’ poplar tree.


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[Cement Bench]

Originally Posted by blgoodbrand1

Well i can’t speak to fortis but the atco contractor that was at my place several times throughout the summer...8 guys with saws spent 1 day bucking up a 30’ poplar tree.


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cannot speak for taco but fortis contracts specify they are paid only per individual order processed

and normally one per location I.e. tap, that is from the main line to the line into your house or shop

so the fact that it takes weeks is no concern of taco or fortis

the contractor can go broke though

[TreeGuy]

Oh man, this is my favourite thread of 2020. So many memories and laughs.

The tree world is divided into three groups. There’s the forestry/fallers, the utility trimmers and the urban arborists/climbers. Each one of us believes we have the toughest, most dangerous gig. Much debate ensures as there’s a peculiar sort of pride working in such a profession. Lol

I hung the gear up 10 years ago after 20 seasons in urban settings, ultimately becoming a heavy technical removal specialist. Climbing.

Fallers have a super dangerous job, but rarely have to deal with humans. Utility guys can have that crap. Electricity scares me. They do have to interact with people occasionally, and there’s at least a couple occasions a year where they are shot and killed by crazies stateside. (As if the job wasn’t dangerous enough)

Urban removals...the gloves are off. Some people are out of their minds. I can absorb a pile of nonsense, but at the end of the day, I’m a ginger....

Been in literally hundreds of animated verbal confrontations and several physical ones. (Pro tip, if you get a professional industrial athlete mad enough to give up the 60-70’ he had to climb so YOU can get in his face, it’s NEVER going to end well for you).

It was fun.

OP, dude just got handed a sheet to head out on at the start of his shift. You may not have heard the initial door knock. Probably had a scraggly beard full of sap that honestly renders a mask useless anyway. I get how he freaked you out a bit, but at the end of the day the guy is going to be running a saw in very close proximity to powerful energized lines, risking his life for your benefit. Don’t ever forget that.

I hope it all works out for you. Stay safe man.

Tree


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[vinny]

Originally Posted by Ruffnuts

Anyone with a power line and a tree in your yard beware. They apparently can enter your yard whenever they please. Both me and the wife have been isolating because my health won't win a battle with covid Since March we have been house bound only leaving for groceries at Walmart which they load we bring them home and process. Them we have one stop to pick up my medications to control my problems. So today I hear heavy banging at the front door like maybe a emergency or police trying to get your attention scared the hell out the wife. Look o the camera here is a guy in my backyard he forced the gate open to get in. No mask no gloves no protection dogs were in the house wife let's the dogs guess the first place they go sniffing. It was fortis arborist sub contractor this is bull**** now we wait to see if we get sick. Cops can't charged them cause fortis is exempt. Talked to someone at fortis Brady irrongant big boss so is you see a fortis truck or there tree division watch out. Call3d global they may look into it. So your private yard is yours and fortis. This is my opinion but facts are there. There big boss response was what if a fire started because of the tre. 2 months ago the transformer blew up up the pole and was burning to fire department spray water and blew that shir all o order the neighbors garden. They reattached a new transformer to a ratting old pole that just got heated up. This is my opinion. Asked them what they would do to clean up his path at door and backyard. There going to send a guy out with a bottle of spray nine. My opinion this bs. There is a pandemic morons this is my only safeplace thanks for reading old guy with concerns

Sorry, I'm just trying to make sense of this. You said he banged on the front door, then said you looked at the camera and there is a guy in the backyard with no mask or gloves on. Are you upset that they were doing the work without a mask on, or was he at the door without a mask on. Just confused. If they are distanced there would be no need to work with a mask on. At the front door, maybe.

[marky_mark]

Just a heads up too
The gas company and the phone company can access that easement whenever needed also

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

Just a heads up too
The gas company and the phone company can access that easement whenever needed also

It is amazing what having a bee hive sitting beside the easement does.

My biggest complaint with the utility companies (and the people they sub to do the work), is that they will make arrangements to come and do work and then never show up. I have had it happen 3 times in the 20 some years we have been in this house. We put a garden shed over the easement, on a platform so it can be moved if need be. Twice I have emptied the shed and moved it to the middle of the yard so that Telus or Shaw could do work. They never showed up.

A few years ago, a contractor working for Shaw shows up, says they can work around the shed, but didn't like the bee hive. Asked me to move it. I said I could move the hive to a temporary location, but they had better show up and do the work because I wouldn't move it a second time. I moved the hive, they didn't show up...

ARG

[204ruger]

Originally Posted by Ruffnuts

Anyone with a power line and a tree in your yard beware. They apparently can enter your yard whenever they please. Both me and the wife have been isolating because my health won't win a battle with covid Since March we have been house bound only leaving for groceries at Walmart which they load we bring them home and process. Them we have one stop to pick up my medications to control my problems. So today I hear heavy banging at the front door like maybe a emergency or police trying to get your attention scared the hell out the wife. Look o the camera here is a guy in my backyard he forced the gate open to get in. No mask no gloves no protection dogs were in the house wife let's the dogs guess the first place they go sniffing. It was fortis arborist sub contractor this is bull**** now we wait to see if we get sick. Cops can't charged them cause fortis is exempt. Talked to someone at fortis Brady irrongant big boss so is you see a fortis truck or there tree division watch out. Call3d global they may look into it. So your private yard is yours and fortis. This is my opinion but facts are there. There big boss response was what if a fire started because of the tre. 2 months ago the transformer blew up up the pole and was burning to fire department spray water and blew that shir all o order the neighbors garden. They reattached a new transformer to a ratting old pole that just got heated up. This is my opinion. Asked them what they would do to clean up his path at door and backyard. There going to send a guy out with a bottle of spray nine. My opinion this bs. There is a pandemic morons this is my only safeplace thanks for reading old guy with concerns

The guy at your door without a mask on, sure he should have been wearing a mask. But the fear of getting sick from your dogs going and sniffing the arborist, I would say is on you for letting your dogs out of the house. As far as the arborist is concerned no one is in his work space so why wear personal protection.

[artie]

do you have a beware of dog sign on or near your gate. I find that sign has a lot of power with people entering your yard. I had a city inspector come to my house and he would not come in until the dog was upstairs in a bedroom with the door closed. I thought man he has a tough job dealing with the public.