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Old 03-10-2018, 09:26 AM
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Is it just the hand full of people I know ? or is it most users ?
Some may be self-medicating for anger issues or general frustration.

The MJ temporarily masks the anger,
but does not cause it.

I've not experienced the thing you refer to. I find most MJ smokers to be fairly chill people, and tend towards passivity more than aggression.
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Old 03-10-2018, 10:42 AM
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Some may be self-medicating for anger issues or general frustration.

The MJ temporarily masks the anger,
but does not cause it.

I've not experienced the thing you refer to. I find most MJ smokers to be fairly chill people, and tend towards passivity more than aggression.
Ever met a tobacco fiend denied their crutch?

The most miserable people on the planet are cigarette smokers without their fix.

I know, for that was once myself. ..20 years ago.
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Old 03-10-2018, 11:14 AM
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Talk about mood swings. I have never smoked MJ or done pills or did what ever. I smoked about 2 to 3 pkgs of cig back in the late 60's, woke up one morning and started pounding myself because I had stop breathing, (so I thought), reached over and got the cigs, crunch them and have never smoked since. Drink a lot, sure, probaly more then most, now I am down to a 1/2 bottle of wine per day. Maybe when I had booze, maybe I was irritable, don't know or don't remember, what ever, although I never had a reputation for being moody. But MJ smokers are, with out question, "MOODY"
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Old 03-10-2018, 11:46 AM
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Ever met a tobacco fiend denied their crutch?

The most miserable people on the planet are cigarette smokers without their fix.

I know, for that was once myself. ..20 years ago.
Good point to make there.
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Old 03-10-2018, 12:01 PM
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How many men on this thread are married I wonder?
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Old 03-10-2018, 03:22 PM
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How many men on this thread are married I wonder?
I am. This thread has got me wondering if my wife smokes weed.
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:49 PM
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Everyone has some sort of coping mechanism that does not necessarily have to be alcohol or Marijuana or illicit drugs.

Many people are addicted to legally prescribed pills by a doctor.
Why do we never discuss that?
Plenty of doctors out there that will quickly write a script for serious opioids for their patients and keep the dependency going.


Mood swings are not brought on just by the user's choice of crutch.

imbalances within a person's body or brain contribute to their moods
several mental issues can lead to mood swings.
Or you can be born female.

The holier than tho crowd would rather find fault with the coping mechanism than the underlining cause.

Just because you won't use it, doesn't mean other people won't.
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:45 PM
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We all have few friends that use Marijuana on a daily bases for enjoyment or medical use.

What people do at home or on there own time is their own business .

What I do not like is their mood swings when at work or in public.

They are great people when on it (normal).
And when they are not on it ,they are not.

They can not function or tolerate even some one even saying hi .

Is it just the hand full of people I know ? or is it most users ?
My step dad was a daily user and that was his biggest downfall. Great guy when medicated and then a terrible person when off. It was a shame cause it ruined our relationship. It was tough growing up in a house where you really didn’t know what was acceptable or not.

That being said there are always exceptions. But I think that anyone that uses the stuff everyday when eventually become almost schizophrenic. IMHO of course
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:00 PM
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Ever met a tobacco fiend denied their crutch?

The most miserable people on the planet are cigarette smokers without their fix.

I know, for that was once myself. ..20 years ago.
Except tobacco is a physical dependency. Pot is not addictive physically so they are not the same
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:21 PM
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Except tobacco is a physical dependency. Pot is not addictive physically so they are not the same
Did you mistake my clear words for me stating that tobacco and weed are the same thing?

Also what is your point?
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Old 03-11-2018, 05:16 AM
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Every time I'm in the mood for swinging my wife puts the kibosh on the idea pretty quickly.

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Old 03-11-2018, 06:14 AM
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My step dad was a daily user and that was his biggest downfall. Great guy when medicated and then a terrible person when off. It was a shame cause it ruined our relationship. It was tough growing up in a house where you really didn’t know what was acceptable or not.

That being said there are always exceptions. But I think that anyone that uses the stuff everyday when eventually become almost schizophrenic. IMHO of course
You hit the nail right on the head for daily users....Schizophrenic / Bipolar

As soon as it becomes legal there will be more daily users.

Will crime go up ,to help some one get their next fix.

I can see a lot more family arguments and spousal harm ....
Divorce will go up .
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:16 AM
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You hit the nail right on the head for daily users....Schizophrenic / Bipolar

As soon as it becomes legal there will be more daily users.

Will crime go up ,to help some one get their next fix.

I can see a lot more family arguments and spousal harm ....
Divorce will go up .
Lmao. Yeah ok. Marijuana doesn't cause the two conditions you've mentioned but it has been linked to exasperating or early triggering of symptoms.

I have never met a pot head that would steal a truck stereo for a bag. There is no physical addiction so what are you basing this on.

I've also never met someone who toked up and then got violent. Met lots ood drunks who do though.
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:38 AM
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You hit the nail right on the head for daily users....Schizophrenic / Bipolar

As soon as it becomes legal there will be more daily users.

Will crime go up ,to help some one get their next fix.

I can see a lot more family arguments and spousal harm ....
Divorce will go up .
all of the daily users I know that get grumpy are usually heavy smokers too. The ones that don't get grumpy usually just stick to cannabis. The only mood swings I see are maybe fatigue when it wears off. Crime will not go up and you will not beat your wife. Don't believe the reefer madness
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:43 AM
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Heavy cigarette smokers I mean
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:47 AM
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Unfortunately I know more people that are miserable who use it daily when they aren't able to use it. When they use it, they are great. Very kind, calm, easy to talk to and just happy people. When they are off it, they are a completely different person. Some of them are total snap shows. Very angry and no patience for people or anything at all.

Not all people I know who use it are like this. However, I would say the majority of them are. We have cut a number of them out of our lives because of their behaviour when not using. Very unfortunate.
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I’m not against legalization, I support it. But I also know what I experienced. And it’s purely anecdotal sure but I’ve seen it in enough friends/family to feel that anything used outside of moderation has an effect on who you are. So the whole steal a stereo example is a straw man argument pulling from ops point.
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Old 03-11-2018, 10:00 AM
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Except tobacco is a physical dependency. Pot is not addictive physically so they are not the same
Actually pot can come with a dependency / addiction component.

You need to know the facts.

https://www.leafscience.com/2017/10/...ana-addictive/
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Old 03-11-2018, 11:34 AM
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Actually pot can come with a dependency / addiction component.

You need to know the facts.

https://www.leafscience.com/2017/10/...ana-addictive/
YOU need to know the facts. The artical clearly states that cannabis is not physically addictive, only psychological.

Anyone can develop psychological addictions/ dependances. Just like how people can become addicted to online shopping or cheeseburgers or trash TV or iphones.....

Think less than 1:10 people are addicted to their smartphone?
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Old 03-11-2018, 10:18 PM
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Marihuana is so strong now , you better not be driving if you get in an accident because .... it won't end well
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Old 03-11-2018, 11:54 PM
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Marihuana is so strong now , you better not be driving if you get in an accident because .... it won't end well
You realize you can buy cask strength whiskey right? Its called being a grown up and using your judgement and exercising restraint.

Oh my god. This booze is twice a strong as what I normally drink maybe I should not adjust my intake at all and drink the same volume I usually do.

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Pretty much as ridiculous as what you just typed.
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Old 03-12-2018, 12:41 AM
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You realize you can buy cask strength whiskey right? Its called being a grown up and using your judgement and exercising restraint.

Oh my god. This booze is twice a strong as what I normally drink maybe I should not adjust my intake at all and drink the same volume I usually do.

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Pretty much as ridiculous as what you just typed.
Cause we know all dealers put the % of thc on the bags they sell,
Man, you are intrusive!
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Old 03-12-2018, 08:45 PM
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Cause we know all dealers put the % of thc on the bags they sell,
Man, you are intrusive!
Are we so enslaved by "Science" that we've lost the ability to estimate, or make educated guesses?

God, how did humans ever survive before laboratory testing?

Oh, the horror.
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:28 PM
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Cause we know all dealers put the % of thc on the bags they sell,
Man, you are intrusive!
So you just jump in head first into anything you try rather than easing into the experience? Sure hope no one ever messes with the temp control on your hot water tank because that cannon ball into scolding water sure is going to hurt.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:23 AM
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One thing I've learned from this thread is that people who smoke pot are really defensive about it, almost paranoid.
They also can't even discuss it without mentioning alcohol, cigs or coffee.
I don't recall ever hearing people who drink too much using other peoples excessive pot use as an excuse for their over indulgence.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:46 AM
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I don't recall ever hearing people who drink too much using other peoples excessive pot-use as an excuse for their over indulgence.
Likewise I've never heard the opposite, a pot-head using an alcoholics abuse of alcohol as an excuse to smoke excessively...?

That's preposterous...
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:50 AM
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One thing I've learned from this thread is that people who smoke pot are really defensive about it, almost paranoid.
They also can't even discuss it without mentioning alcohol, cigs or coffee.
I don't recall ever hearing people who drink too much using other peoples excessive pot use as an excuse for their over indulgence.
True .

Also people that smoke marijuana have almost always dabbled or use other drugs regularly also .

Some people need a crutch to get through life rather than maintain a clear head and face it head on like a real adult does .
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:01 AM
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YOU need to know the facts. The artical clearly states that cannabis is not physically addictive, only psychological.

Anyone can develop psychological addictions/ dependances. Just like how people can become addicted to online shopping or cheeseburgers or trash TV or iphones.....

Think less than 1:10 people are addicted to their smartphone?
Wrong

https://mcwell.nd.edu/your-well-bein...rent-research/

Current research supports that marijuana is both physically addictive and psychologically addictive.
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:50 AM
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Are we so enslaved by "Science" that we've lost the ability to estimate, or make educated guesses?

God, how did humans ever survive before laboratory testing?

Oh, the horror.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:39 AM
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So you just jump in head first into anything you try rather than easing into the experience? Sure hope no one ever messes with the temp control on your hot water tank because that cannon ball into scolding water sure is going to hurt.
All or nothing!
Bring on the cannon balls, just like caddyshack!!!!!
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