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Old 07-23-2022, 10:57 AM
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A few fund managers were talking about going all cash. I guess they are expecting a big recession or a big correction?
Another option is to keep the money in a high dividend stock and funds. I did some looking this morning and that’s what draw my attention:
DGS- 22.7% dividend
EIT.UN-10%
DFN-16%
ENS-10%
GDV-11%
LBS-16%
You can keep your cash there, collect healthy dividends and wait for the storm to pass….
You say you checked out the charts; On a quick look there was only a couple I could find any info on at all other than just the stock quote. Also, the market cap on the few I did find makes them tiny little companies. I suggest before putting your money in any of these you check them out a lot closer than just looking at a chart.
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:44 PM
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Thumbs up Financial advice by some of our fellows

On this financial tread is so important information for many.I will say for almost everyone and any mistake with investing your money will effect your future life. Purpose of discussion is where people can share their experiences,spread skills and ideas and one of most important things; teach each others. So I believe one of our fellow (Dean) doesn't want to put anyone down. He explain and share his knowledge and try to teach us,how we can survive in this tough time. I make also small mistake and play with little company (small stock)My mistake -my money. Now I am %100 following advice from Dean. I am not looking for any risky stocks or stocks with huge potential rewards. I am to poor to risk my hard earned money.
Thank you Dean for advice . We should everyone say thank you Dean 😊
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I agree. Thank you Dean!
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Dean is a credit to this forum in too numerous ways to mention. He really is. I actually consider him something of a renaissance man. Whenever I have had the opportunity to spend time with him, I have come away knowing something I never knew previously. Simply a class act.
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Dean is a credit to this forum in too numerous ways to mention. He really is. I actually consider him something of a renaissance man. Whenever I have had the opportunity to spend time with him, I have come away knowing something I never knew previously. Simply a class act.
Keep talking like that and Elkhunter11 is going to get jealous….
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When it comes to talking about risk, my investing plan is to always always minimize risk. You minimize risk by educating yourself on the investment plan you wish to put into play. You know everything about it. You know it’s business cycle. You know what it makes profit on and how that is affected by business cycles. You do not have to invest in everything that comes your way. There’s a million different things. Pick something you are educated in and wait for your risk free entry. This doesn’t matter if you are rich, middle class, or poor. The money you invest is real. This is not gambling. My number one disliked thing I hear when people talk investing is “don’t invest what you can’t afford to lose”. Did you build your investing thesis planning to lose? If it’s risky, do not do it.
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Old 07-23-2022, 10:22 PM
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Like when BTC was at all time highs. What was it, $67G? People were bailing into it, excited as heck cuz some stories on the internet told them it was going to $100G. They were willing to take on ultimate risk by buying at the top to hopefully, maybe, if I’m lucky and only invest what I can’t afford to lose, make 49%. If they can time everything exactly.


If they feel like throwing money away gambling, at least go to the casino and have a few drinks and a good time while doing it.
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Guys, I appreciate the compliments, always nice to hear nice things. Luckily we have a lot of members here on AO that go far and above in trying to provide great information here, as well as contribute in so many ways to their communities, even far beyond AO. I would rattle off a long list but I would inevitably miss a whole wack of great people. Hope you all have a great Sunday, perfect day for a BBQ.
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An article in FP about buying value stocks. Basically, what Dean has been saying for a long time, but worth the repeat.

https://financialpost.com/investing/...ountercyclical
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Old 07-26-2022, 10:15 AM
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July 26, 2022 Model Portfolio that I usually post, sorted by growth over the past 12 months. This includes the latest downdraft in values.

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Have had a couple of PMs from guys about long term versus short term growth stocks. From my perspective, and how I approach it personally is what I will lay out.

Buy and hold is far from a simple thing to figure out or to execute successfiully. While I have always been a big fan of long term holding stocks, it makes a HUGE difference what stock you do that with. If you had held Manulife for 25 years you are basically flat. What you paid for it is what it is worth today and if you bought it at a peak, you could well be under water. Now you would have collected the dividend for 25 years so all in you are better off than putting the money in a sock, but not near as well off as with one of the other insurers. Despite this analysts keep talking about, and have for 25 years since it de-mutualized, how Manulife has such great future potential and how it is way undervalued compared to its peers. There is usually a REALLY good reason a share is undervalued compared to its peers, it usually indicates management that is no where near as good at their job. Another prime example is GE under Jack Welch versus what it has done since he retired. If you had held the stock for the 20 years since he retired you are WAY under water.

Even if you look at the chart I posted, even over the past 10 years, not all of the big banks perform anywhere near equally. The BNS is up 48%, TD 110% and RBC 141%. RBC has been the best run bank in Canada for over 100 years and TD has occupied second for 35+ years. It is why I always buy the very best companies in a segment, never the "undervalued" ones. ETFs unfortunately hold the super stars and the less talented, if you know who the very best in class are you can do quite a lot better than the ETF. If you don't then the ETF in the right industry is a solid choice.

You will also notice that most REITs, Pipelines, Communications and Utilities are a better long term hold than they are a short term hold. They also pay very good dividends so you get capital appreciation and steady income at the same time. In the case of tech, if you pick the best in class, they have done well longer term. If you bought them at a recent peak, you are probably a pretty unhappy camper. Other issue with Tech stocks, almost none of them pay a dividend, so you aren't getting paid to wait.

Resource and Commodities are not good candidates for long term buy and hold. These have to be actively managed to make money in them over the long haul.

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Old 07-26-2022, 11:40 AM
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Hey Dean, are you getting tempted on buying some Shopify at $38.00?
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Hey Dean, are you getting tempted on buying some Shopify at $38.00?
Nope!!! They are laying off 1000 employees, 10% of their workforce, because in their own words, their big bet on the pandemic changing buying habits permanently hasn't paid off. Online purchasing has not wiped out Bricks and Mortar retail nor accelerated the move to online by 5-10 years. Like so many Paradigm shifts, it wasn't really. There really wasn't a seminal change in the world and a whole new set of rules going forward. It was more wishful thinking and marketing, kind of like the green revolution.

They have lost over 2 billion dollars in the last two quarters. They are still sitting on 2 billion in cash and 5 billion on short term investments, but at 1.8 billion a quarter it doesn't take long to burn through the cash. When a company does a stock split after dropping from 2400 down to 450, there is only one explanation, to see if they can suck in a bunch of retail investors because the big money has already bailed. Quite honestly, I could see this company doing a Nortel.

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What about Nvidia? It went down all the way to $140 and now hovering around $160. Their chips are apparently top notch for gaming industry and as I heard the auto industry starting to use those too.
Disclaimer: I sold my position when they hit $192…
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What about Nvidia? It went down all the way to $140 and now hovering around $160. Their chips are apparently top notch for gaming industry and as I heard the auto industry starting to use those too.
Disclaimer: I sold my position when they hit $192…
You are going to have to do your own research on that one. I have never followed it and know nothing about it.
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What about Nvidia? It went down all the way to $140 and now hovering around $160. Their chips are apparently top notch for gaming industry and as I heard the auto industry starting to use those too.
Disclaimer: I sold my position when they hit $192…
Nancy already made her money, you're a few days to slow!
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This might sound crazy but would buffet help chevron ( buffet has 10% stake ) buy out oxy ( buffet has accumulated close to 20% since the beginning of the year ) in 2019 chevron was trying to buy anadarko but lost the bid to Oxy who took a $10 billion loan from buffet for the purchase . Market cap wise cvx is 5x of oxy .
Buffet probably making one big shot with his elephant gun before he retires .

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Nancy already made her money, you're a few days to slow!
Lol yeah well I think I still have time on that one. Should’ve got in at $140…
But with the AI at the starting stage NVIDIA is probably the strongest player in this field.
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Old 07-27-2022, 08:19 AM
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Shopify results for last quarter that were released this morning. Even worse than expected, cash position has dropped over a billion from the previous quarter. Pay attention to the unrealised gain in 2021, followed by the unrealised loss in 2022. Means they lost money both quarters, not just this one, and the 2 immediately preceding quarters. Total loss to date in three quarters over 3 Billion and they are closing a deal for 2.1 billion that means further share dilution.

The "analysts" and "strategic experts" continue to talk about Shopify in glowing terms, remember, they were doing that with Nortel and a raft of others right up to the day they filed for Bankruptcy.

Internet, Everywhere - July 27, 2022 - Shopify Inc. (NYSE, TSX: SHOP), a provider of essential internet infrastructure for commerce, announced today financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2022.


Second-Quarter Financial Highlights

Total revenue in the second quarter grew 16% year over year to $1.3 billion, which represents a three-year compound annual growth rate of 53%. Total reported revenue growth year-over-year was negatively impacted by approximately 1.5 percentage points given the significant strengthening of the U.S. dollar relative to foreign currencies in the second quarter.
Monthly Recurring Revenue1 ("MRR") as of June 30, 2022 was $107.2 million. MRR increased 13% year over year, up from $95.1 million as of June 30, 2021 as more merchants joined the platform and the number of retail locations using POS Pro increased. Shopify Plus contributed $33.7 million, or 31%, of MRR compared with 26% of MRR as of June 30, 2021, as larger merchants seek out greater value from their digital platforms.
Subscription Solutions revenue was $366.4 million, up 10% year over year, primarily due to more merchants joining the platform, and reflecting our change in terms to make selling in our app and theme stores free for partners up to their first million dollars annually, terms that were not in place until the third quarter of 2021.
Gross Merchandise Volume2 ("GMV") for the second quarter was $46.9 billion, which represents a three- year compound annual growth rate of 50% and an increase of $4.7 billion, or 11% over the second quarter of 2021. Gross Payments Volume3 ("GPV") grew to $24.9 billion, which accounted for 53% of GMV processed in the quarter, versus $20.3 billion, or 48%, for the second quarter of 2021. GPV continued to benefit in the quarter from strong performance by merchants on Shopify Payments, growing adoption by new merchants and merchants on Shopify Plus, Shop Pay and Shopify Markets penetration gains, and continued adoption of our POS Pro hardware with integrated payments.
Merchant Solutions revenue was $928.6 million, up 18% year over year, driven primarily by the growth of GMV and the continued solid uptake of merchant solutions such as Shopify Payments, Shopify Capital, and Shopify Markets. Merchant Solutions revenue growth year-over-year was negatively impacted by approximately two percentage points due to the strengthening U.S. dollar.
Gross profit dollars grew 6% to $655.6 million in the second quarter of 2022, compared with $620.9 million for the second quarter of 2021, reflecting primarily a greater mix of lower-margin Merchant Solutions revenue, lower margins in Shopify Payments due to merchant and card mix, and increased investments in our cloud infrastructure.
Adjusted gross profit4 dollars grew 6% to $665.0 million in the second quarter of 2022, compared with $627.0 million for the second quarter of 2021.
Operating loss for the second quarter of 2022 was $190.2 million, or 15% of revenue, versus income of $139.4 million, or 12% of revenue, for the comparable period a year ago.
Adjusted operating loss4 for the second quarter of 2022 was $41.8 million, or 3% of revenue, compared with adjusted operating income of $236.8 million or 21% of revenue in the second quarter of 2021. The difference primarily reflects the expansion of our R&D and sales and marketing teams, and the step up in our international marketing efforts and offline performance marketing initiatives.
Net loss for the second quarter of 2022 was $1.2 billion, or $0.95 per basic and diluted share, compared with net income of $0.9 billion, or $0.695 per diluted share, for the second quarter of 2021. Second-quarter 2022 net loss includes a $1.0 billion net unrealized loss on our equity and other investments, while our net income in the second quarter of 2021 included a $0.8 billion net unrealized gain from equity and other investments.
Adjusted net loss4 for the second quarter of 2022 was $38.5 million, or $0.03 per basic and diluted share, compared with adjusted net income of $284.6 million, or $0.225 per diluted share, for the second quarter of 2021.
At June 30, 2022, Shopify had $6.95 billion in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities, compared with $7.77 billion at December 31, 2021.

Second-Quarter Business Highlights

Shopify launched Shopify Editions, our new semi-annual product showcase that features new launches and improvements across the entire platform that is powering the Connect-to-Consumer era of commerce. Over 100 updates were featured in our Summer ‘22 Edition, including the following:
B2B functionality integrated directly into the Shopify platform, making it easier for Shopify Plus brands to sell to other businesses via the same store they use for direct-to-consumer commerce.
Twitter Shopping channel, which enables merchants to reach consumers directly from their Twitter profiles, with buyers seeing products and pricing without having to leave the app.
Shopify Functions, which enables brands to customize out-of-the-box Shopify features to meet their unique needs without ever touching code.
Tap to Pay on iPhone (in early access), allowing merchants to easily expand into offline retail with their iPhone, meaning no extra hardware or upfront investment required.
Google local inventory sync, so merchants can sync location and inventory levels directly from within the Shopify Google Channel account and automatically let nearby customers know when a product is available in store across Google surfaces, making it easier to shop and support local brands.
Tokengated commerce, enabling merchants to deepen connections with new fans and VIPs by giving NFT holders exclusive access to products, perks, and experiences across online, mobile, and offline surfaces.
Shopify launched Shopify Audiences, a marketing tool powered by an audience network and machine learning that helps merchants find high-intent buyers for their products. At launch, merchants can sync Shopify Audiences with Facebook and Instagram and are working to extend to platforms such as TikTok, Snap, Pinterest, Microsoft, Criteo, and others.
Shopify continued to build Shopify Fulfillment Network to offer our merchants and their buyers simple, fast, and affordable fulfillment. We completed the rollout of Shopify’s warehouse management system to our fulfillment network and introduced our delivery badge, Shop Promise, into early access which will enable merchants to offer buyers visibility into when they will receive their orders.
Shopify launched our integrated hardware with payments to retail merchants in Italy in June and Singapore in July, bringing the total number of countries in which Shopify POS hardware is available to 13.
Shopify launched Shopify Payments in France expanding the availability of Shopify Payments to 18 countries.
Merchants in the U.S., Canada, and the U.K. received $416.4 million in merchant cash advances and loans from Shopify Capital in the second quarter of 2022, an increase of 15% versus the $363.0 million funded in the second quarter of last year. Shopify Capital has grown to $3.8 billion in cumulative capital funded since its launch in April 2016, approximately $537.8 million of which was outstanding on June 30, 2022.
Shopify completed its ten-to-one share split and creation of the Founder share following approval by the company’s shareholders at its Annual General and Special Meeting held on June 7, 2022.

Subsequent to Second Quarter 2022

Shopify closed its acquisition of ecommerce fulfillment technology company, Deliverr, on July 8, 2022. With the addition of Deliverr's world-class software, talent, data, and scale, Shopify Fulfillment Network will offer merchants a one-stop shop for their logistics needs, from initial receipt of inventory to smart distribution, through to fast delivery and easy returns.
Shopify partnered with YouTube to launch YouTube Shopping, enabling Shopify’s millions of merchants around the world to reach YouTube’s over two billion monthly logged-in users. With the launch of YouTube Shopping on Shopify, merchants can easily integrate products from their online store into live streams, videos and into a new store tab on their YouTube channel to feature their entire selection of products.
As ecommerce has reverted to a level slightly higher than its pre-COVID trend, in an effort to recalibrate our operations, Shopify took steps to streamline its workforce in July, reducing its total headcount by approximately 10%. After expanding the company in anticipation of rapid and sustained structural ecommerce market expansion, which has not materialized, we are recalibrating to meet the new reality.

2022 Outlook

The following outlook supersedes all prior statements made by Shopify and are based on current expectations. These statements constitute forward-looking information within the meaning of applicable securities laws and are based on a number of assumptions and risks, many of which are beyond our control. As these statements are forward-looking, actual results could vary materially from our expectations. Please see "Forward-looking Statements" below for more information.

We have grown our adjusted operating income over the past five years through 2021. We now expect 2022 will end up being different, more of a transition year, in which ecommerce has largely reset to the pre-COVID trend line and is now pressured by persistent high inflation. We expect our multi-channel superpowers and strong value proposition will continue to help our merchants in this environment, and we are excited about our critical investments, like Deliverr, that we believe will position us well for the future of commerce.

Our financial outlook for the rest of 2022, which includes the impact of Deliverr and our new compensation system that we expect to implement in our third quarter, assumes that higher inflation will persist for the foreseeable future and, combined with rising interest rates, will pressure consumers’ wallets for purchases of goods.

For 2022, we expect:

GMV growth, though impacted by persistent inflation, will continue to outperform the broader retail market in the second half of 2022;
Merchant Solutions revenue will continue to grow as a percentage of GMV, driven by Shopify Payments, Shopify Capital, Shopify Markets, Shop Pay Installments, and Shopify Fulfillment (including Deliverr), and continue to benefit from the growth of partner revenue;
The number of new merchants joining the platform in the second half of 2022 will be higher than in the first half of 2022 as our localized subscription pricing and other commercial initiatives gain traction;
Merchant Solutions revenue growth year-over-year will be more than double that of Subscription Solutions growth for full year 2022;
Both GMV and total revenue in 2022 to be more evenly distributed across the four quarters, similar to 2021, given the increasing pressure on consumer spending on goods and currency headwinds from the stronger U.S. dollar we are expecting in the back half of this year;
Because of this larger mix of Merchant Solutions contributing to overall revenue and Deliverr, which we expect to be dilutive, gross profit dollar growth will trail revenue growth; and
Operating expense growth, excluding one-time items, to meaningfully decelerate year over year in the third quarter, and again in the fourth quarter.

Factoring in these expectations, we expect to generate an adjusted operating loss for the second half of 2022, with our third-quarter adjusted operating loss, excluding severance costs, expected to materially increase over the second quarter, reflecting time needed for the streamlining of our operations to take effect, the implementation of our new compensation framework, the first quarter of Deliverr operations, including approximately 450 team members, and related integration costs, and up to an estimated 50 million dollars for certain other operating items associated with these and other areas. As we decelerate operating expense growth into the fourth quarter, and with its higher seasonal GMV and revenue, we expect an adjusted operating loss in the fourth quarter that is significantly smaller than in the third quarter, but larger than in the second quarter.

Finally, the estimates of stock-based compensation and related payroll taxes, capex and amortization of acquired intangibles are now 750 million dollars, 200 million dollars and 62 million dollars, respectively.

Quarterly Conference Call

Shopify’s management team will hold a conference call to discuss our second-quarter results today, July 27, 2022, at 8:30 a.m. ET. The conference call will be webcast on the investor relations section of Shopify’s website at https://investors.shopify.com/news-and-events/. An archived replay of the webcast will be available following the conclusion of the call.

Shopify’s Second Quarter 2022 Interim Unaudited Condensed Consolidated Financial Statements and Notes and its Second Quarter 2022 Management's Discussion and Analysis are available on Shopify’s website at https://investors.shopify.com and will be filed on SEDAR at www.sedar.com and on EDGAR at www.sec.gov.

About Shopify

Shopify is a leading provider of essential internet infrastructure for commerce, offering trusted tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business of any size. Shopify makes commerce better for everyone with a platform and services that are engineered for reliability, while delivering a better shopping experience for consumers everywhere. Proudly founded in Ottawa, Shopify powers millions of businesses in more than 175 countries and is trusted by brands such as Allbirds, Gymshark, Heinz, Tupperware, FTD, Netflix, FIGS, and many more. For more information, visit www.shopify.com. ​

Non-GAAP Financial Measures

To supplement our consolidated financial statements, which are prepared and pres

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At least one Analyst on BNN agrees with my view on Shopify but to be fair we are the minority by a long shot. The fact is is still priced 5 times higher than Amazon, and I am in no rush to buy them either, says it has a long ways to drop.

BNN Video Clip Shopify being down 80% doesn't make it a good buy: Portfolio manager

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Tourmoline Oil just reported and is showing the love again this quarter. Dividends and special dividends add up to a 9% trailing 12 month yield, plus a capital appreciation of 80% YTD and 118% in last twelve months. So far those dividends and special dividends have funded over a third of our original purchase price. Sooner or later the crowd will wake up to what's going on here.

• Second quarter 2022 cash flow was a record $1.35 billion $3.95 per diluted share a 137% increase over second quarter 2021 cash flow.

• Net debt at June 30, 2022, was $430.0 million, well below the long-term debt target of $1.0-$1.2
billion. This places Tourmaline in an excellent position to concurrently fund the Conroy project and to continue its free cash flow allocation strategy.

• Second quarter 2022 free cash flow was a record $1.1 billion $3.25 per diluted share enabling the Company to declare a special dividend of $2.00 per common share to be paid August 12, 2022 to
shareholders of record on August 5, 2022. Tourmaline's trailing 12-months of distributed dividends now total $6.28 per share (inclusive of this August 2022 special dividend), an implied 9% trailing yield.
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• Second quarter 2022 EP capital spending was $228.9 million, within previous guidance.

• Second quarter 2022 net earnings were $822.9 million $2.40 per diluted share.

https://www.tourmalineoil.com/investors/news-releases
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Stupid Tourmaline!

In my former days we did work with Tourmaline and Duvernay before that. Generally, the investors in Mike Rose companies did really well. I bought in about July 2015 around $38/share then proceeded to watch it fall for the next 5 years. I'm generally pretty patient, but that exceeded it. Sold out to buy F at around $5/share around May 2020, just in time to watch TOU go from $14/share to $73/share. I'm ticked, and would be really ticked if F hadn't done exceptionally well.

Lets just stop talking about TOU....
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Stupid Tourmaline!

In my former days we did work with Tourmaline and Duvernay before that. Generally, the investors in Mike Rose companies did really well. I bought in about July 2015 around $38/share then proceeded to watch it fall for the next 5 years. I'm generally pretty patient, but that exceeded it. Sold out to buy F at around $5/share around May 2020, just in time to watch TOU go from $14/share to $73/share. I'm ticked, and would be really ticked if F hadn't done exceptionally well.

Lets just stop talking about TOU....
Haha yes I remember you mentioning your Tourmoline regret not that long ago. Sorry about that Trochu.
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Haha yes I remember you mentioning your Tourmoline regret not that long ago. Sorry about that Trochu.
Apologize accepted!

My brother says, should have listened, when you sell stock, or buy an item, never look back to see what the stock price is or keep looking for the item. The stock will surely have gone up and you'll find the same item cheaper.
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What about Nvidia? It went down all the way to $140 and now hovering around $160. Their chips are apparently top notch for gaming industry and as I heard the auto industry starting to use those too.
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https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/p...ll-2022-07-27/

Not good enough for Nancy anymore! Lol!
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Not good enough for Nancy anymore! Lol!
I am not sure if his action has anything to do with the subsidies. I think it is rather more political. Nvidia has a great chip in their production and has been a leader in the chip manufacturing for a while now. With the increased production of self parking self driving cars, the artificial intelligence and virtual reality toys- I can see Nvidia will be doing very well. I am still waiting to initiate the position. I don’t think we are out of the woods yet.
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I used to hold this company probably 7 - 10 years ago but gave up on it long ago. It's had plenty of trouble in the past, to big to manage well as a single entity and to many parts to really get a great idea of how it is doing as a whole. I haven't followed it in some time. It really got nailed during the GFC being a huge cyclical company with a large financial division to boot.
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