Hunting Property

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by cowmanbob

Stray dogs harassing wildlife should be shot. I’d have another big whitetail hanging on the wall had I followed my own advice.

"SSS" comes to mind......
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[waldedw]

I know what I would do...........and it would already be done......... but nobody else would know...........

[H380]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

"SSS" comes to mind......

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[bezzola]

This whole conversation and you picked up on the baiting.

[heymshooter]

A lot of the province is under range law which makes the owner keep his animals on his property.

[Bigfeet]

The OP might be from Sask?

[edmsmith]

Originally Posted by bezzola

This whole conversation and you picked up on the baiting.

Originally Posted by Bigfeet

The OP might be from Sask?

Surprised it was glossed over by most.. You'd assume on an alberta forum they'd be from Alberta if asking about legalities of shooting someone's dog that's chasing animals off his bait pile.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by edmsmith

Surprised it was glossed over by most.. You'd assume on an alberta forum they'd be from Alberta if asking about legalities of shooting someone's dog that's chasing animals off his bait pile.

People are baiting bears right now, that was my take on it anyway.....
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[Who Da Fisherman]

Originally Posted by edmsmith

Surprised it was glossed over by most.. You'd assume on an alberta forum they'd be from Alberta if asking about legalities of shooting someone's dog that's chasing animals off his bait pile.

I read it right away
“I do have a bait and try to do what I can to help the animals through the winters”
I figured out just from this what he meant, peeps on here assume that all are up to no good right away. If he was I am sure he would have just smoked the mutt on day one.
My thoughts, that dog would be roaming in heaven….
WDF

[Rio56]

Dogs out of control need to be put in place . Or the owner face charges . This "ohhh" it's my pet as gone far enuf . In this case I would shoot and let the owner spend the money on legal losses ..

[roper1]

Dog behavior since we domesticated them??? More than one dog is a pack. Owner doesn't know better..............SSS

[walking buffalo]

mackenzie280

Are you in Alberta or somewhere else?

The laws dealing with wildlife harassing domestic dogs are different in each province, so it is important to know if you want legal advice.

[mackenzie280]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

mackenzie280

Are you in Alberta or somewhere else?

The laws dealing with wildlife harassing domestic dogs are different in each province, so it is important to know if you want legal advice.

My property is in Sask. But spend 90% of my time in Alberta. I was only looking for opinion on disposing of the dogs. The law only seems to side more with the people breaking it than with people who respect the law. There are many cases and references where criminals breaking the law seem to get the upper hand. And the victims have to prove themselves. As far as the bait I was referring to my bear bait and my food plot ( I call it a bait and there is no law in that), nothing wrong with giving wildlife a helping hand.
From reading all the replies, I was thinking the same as most of the responders here. But being I like dogs I was second guessing myself in my actions as why I went to see the owner, and asked for the opinions on here.

[walking buffalo]

My understanding of the Sask Law (confirm it yourself)..


Maybe your neighbor will pay greater attention to your request if you showed him pictures of his dogs chasing wildlife and a copy of the regulations.




From the Sask. Wildlife Regulations
https://www.canlii.org/en/sk/laws/re...ghtEdited=true

19(1) Subject to subsection (2.1), no person shall use a dog for hunting big game or wild boar or permit a dog accustomed to pursuing big game or wild boar to run at large in a locality where big game is usually found.

(2) Any dog found chasing big game may be killed by any person without incurring any liability

[fishnguy]

Walking Buffalo with a bang. Haha. It looks like it is pretty straight forward. One has to love the wording in those regs too - couldn’t be more clear.

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by mackenzie280

My issue is the sheep farmers have two huge dogs, for flock protection I am told. I run trail cameras year round have have numerous pictures of these two dogs at my baits and chasing animals.

The local F&W officers seem not interested in getting involved.

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

From the Sask. Wildlife Regulations

19(1) Subject to subsection (2.1), no person shall use a dog for hunting big game or wild boar or permit a dog accustomed to pursuing big game or wild boar to run at large in a locality where big game is usually found.

(2) Any dog found chasing big game may be killed by any person without incurring any liability

The law looks pretty clear on this situation. It makes me wonder why the local F&W officers were unable, or unwilling, to offer any advice. They could have easily cleared up any confusion for both the OP, and the dog owner.

Once upon a time, uniformed professionals were expected to know the laws they were paid to enforce.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by mackenzie280

My property is in Sask. But spend 90% of my time in Alberta. I was only looking for opinion on disposing of the dogs. The law only seems to side more with the people breaking it than with people who respect the law. There are many cases and references where criminals breaking the law seem to get the upper hand. And the victims have to prove themselves. As far as the bait I was referring to my bear bait and my food plot ( I call it a bait and there is no law in that), nothing wrong with giving wildlife a helping hand.
From reading all the replies, I was thinking the same as most of the responders here. But being I like dogs I was second guessing myself in my actions as why I went to see the owner, and asked for the opinions on here.

i guess it begs the question which province do you reside in?

[fishnguy]

I always find interesting how people think. Here is what my train of thought was when I read the original post and since.

The first sentence was finished with wolves and coyotes and the next sentence talked about bait and doing what the guy can to help the animals through the winter -> my thought was he has a bait set up and shooting wolves and coyotes to help the ungulates through the winter on his land. But then there are some dogs running wild chasing wildlife on his land, the dogs that are supposed to protect the sheep on the adjacent land -> with the wolves and coyotes around, roaming dogs aren’t much of protection, but that isn’t my business -> he addressed the issue with the owner who isn’t concerned, so the dogs are fair game and should be dealt with accordingly (I didn’t comment since there were already enough comments on the subject).

Then the bait and legality issue was brought up -> weird that this is what people read from the op’s post, but ok -> the op’s land is where baiting ungulates is legal and he has food plot -> Dale comes with a slam dunk (often does) answering the op’s original question -> great success.

Now we have guys (that I respect as far as online community goes, fyi, just like most people here) inquiring about the op’s residency situation -> why do we care? -> the op has been a member since 2007 and has a whooping 56 posts and will likely slow back down again on the rate that he had been posting with. Laughing here.

That is all.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

My understanding of the Sask Law (confirm it yourself)..


Maybe your neighbor will pay greater attention to your request if you showed him pictures of his dogs chasing wildlife and a copy of the regulations.


From the Sask. Wildlife Regulations
[url]https://www.canlii.org/en/sk/laws/regu/rrs-c-w-13.1-reg-1/latest/rrs-c-w-13.1-reg-1.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAEZG9ncwAAAAAB&offset=0 &highlightEdited=true[/ur

19(1) Subject to subsection (2.1), no person shall use a dog for hunting big game or wild boar or permit a dog accustomed to pursuing big game or wild boar to run at
large in a locality where big game is usually found.

(2) Any dog found chasing big game may be killed by any person without incurring any liability

That makes the solution very simple, take video of the dogs chasing big game, send a copy to the owner, along with a copy of the regulations , and if you observe the dogs chasing big game again, take action that complies with the regulations.

[Ackleyman]

The guy has pizz poor stock guardians if they are roaming a mile away. Useless and causing you problems on YOUR land. Bang , end of story.

[calgarychef]

Originally Posted by fishnguy

I always find interesting how people think. Here is what my train of thought was when I read the original post and since.

The first sentence was finished with wolves and coyotes and the next sentence talked about bait and doing what the guy can to help the animals through the winter -> my thought was he has a bait set up and shooting wolves and coyotes to help the ungulates through the winter on his land. But then there are some dogs running wild chasing wildlife on his land, the dogs that are supposed to protect the sheep on the adjacent land -> with the wolves and coyotes around, roaming dogs aren’t much of protection, but that isn’t my business -> he addressed the issue with the owner who isn’t concerned, so the dogs are fair game and should be dealt with accordingly (I didn’t comment since there were already enough comments on the subject).

Then the bait and legality issue was brought up -> weird that this is what people read from the op’s post, but ok -> the op’s land is where baiting ungulates is legal and he has food plot -> Dale comes with a slam dunk (often does) answering the op’s original question -> great success.

Now we have guys (that I respect as far as online community goes, fyi, just like most people here) inquiring about the op’s residency situation -> why do we care? -> the op has been a member since 2007 and has a whooping 56 posts and will likely slow back down again on the rate that he had been posting with. Laughing here.

That is all.

Very good summation but you missed the part about the OP spending 90% of his time in Alberta yet has "hunting land" in Sask.

I agree with you, Coming onto a public forum and suggesting that he "might" be skirting the law is indeed Funny. I know people who live in Alberta yet still own family farms in Sask. they can't hunt on their own land even though its been in their family for 3 generations.

[ghfalls]

Get some foothold traps in front of a cell phone camera. Once you catch them, go release them 23 hours later, and I bet they don’t come back.

[badbrass]

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Ackleyman

The guy has pizz poor stock guardians if they are roaming a mile away. Useless and causing you problems on YOUR land. Bang , end of story.

[edmsmith]

Originally Posted by ghfalls

Get some foothold traps in front of a cell phone camera. Once you catch them, go release them 23 hours later, and I bet they don’t come back.

I was asking f&w this week about using traps to protect some of my live stock. You'd be amazed at how few answers they want to provide.

They'd tell me I can't trap certain species but couldn't tell me which ones I could. They went as far as to tell me certain traps couldn't be used but couldn't provide a list of which ones were good.

They wanted me to apply for permits and went on to say permits won't be granted for many animals I wanted to set traps for.

Main concern I have is protecting my livestock but what if i caught a neighbors animal in my "traps". Some of the traps I have are leg traps.

They were extremely useless in getting answers for what I can and can't do. But catching a neighbors dog in a leg trap and providing video evidence in alberta seems like a bad idea based off my recent chats with f&w.

[-JR-]

Many farmers will tell you to ...shoot...shovel...and shut up !

[cacty]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

Very good summation but you missed the part about the OP spending 90% of his time in Alberta yet has "hunting land" in Sask.

I agree with you, Coming onto a public forum and suggesting that he "might" be skirting the law is indeed Funny. I know people who live in Alberta yet still own family farms in Sask. they can't hunt on their own land even though its been in their family for 3 generations.

Fact. I own land(sizeable amount) and pay taxes in Saskatchewan and my family homesteaded there in 1908. I live inside the Alberta border and since the new draw regulations came out I have not been able to draw a tag to simply harvest 1 deer on my own land for near 15 years now. Disgusting.