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06-13-2017, 12:22 PM
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I, as well, am struggling with chronic back pain and am licensed.
Trying different concentrations of THC and CBD.
Currently very large doses of CBD with little to no relief.
Personally seem to have more success with THC, not so much for the pain, as for having the ability to deal with it.
THC is an issue if you plan on driving.
Each individual much find their own solution, but I haven't found mine yet.
I get mine from Cannimed in Saskatoon. Mail order, 2 days, once a month. Not cheap by any means but tax deductible.
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At $4.47/gram, Cannimed 12-0 is the best price out there currently.
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06-14-2017, 09:35 AM
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People living in chronic pain are in trouble. Big insurance companies are tired of paying for the prescriptions, esp. opiates. Our federal govt. has adopted same stance. Doctors are afraid to prescribe the proper dose's needed by some patients for fear of being investigated, or even losing their licence to practise medicine. Sad situation. Another reason to legalize MJ.
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Insurance companies make more and charge more if their clients spend more. They might pretend that the cost is of a concern to them and really its only if their clients cannot afford the new premiums.
Opiates are cheap in the grand scheme and are hardly a blip on the radar.
That said doctors are encouraged by pharmaceutical companies and as mentioned they have a very limited amount of free time to research new medications and with limited testing and any sort of trials they are probably not to motivated to try and help a patient down the road of medicinal Marijuana.
The good news is there is more and more documentation and test being done now that its is becoming legal stateside, as well as the individually documented findings.
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06-14-2017, 09:37 AM
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Also if your employer has a HCSA (Healthcare Spending Account) for you, you can claim it under that.
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06-29-2017, 09:23 AM
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I have an appointment with the 420 clinic in Calgary in a couple weeks to discuss what they may be able to do for me. From my conversation with the information person she said they should be able to manage my day pain without chance of getting high. She said that they should be able to improve the quality of my sleep with a minimum of high. She said that they could probably take away all of my pain, but that would leave me legally impaired enough to advise no driving and operating machinery. I have managed constant amounts of everyday pain for over 30 years so I hope to be able to avoid the impairment thing. Just the flair ups and the sleep that concern me.
I hope they have lots of reading material on their product.
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07-01-2017, 10:00 PM
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Well, I am coming up on three weeks now of battling mind numbing pain from a pinched nerve caused by degenerative disc disease in my C4, C5, and C6. I started out getting chiro treatment, but it was worsening things. I then switched to a physiotherapist who also does acupuncture. It has been helping, but I am at the two steps forward, then one and a half back phase. I am happy with the physio/accupuncture route. I am doing my stretching and taking walks each day. Evenings/nighttime are the worst for me. The pain, which originates under my shoulder, radiates down my arm and to the end of my fingers, is often so bad that I would be happy to cut my arm off. Because of this, I am lucky to get a few hours of sleep, even with strong painkillers
The doctor started me off with Percocet, but they were barely taking the edge off at the maximum safe dosage. I told him and he switched me to Dilaudid which he said was the absolute strongest he is able to subscribe. Sometimes they help, but again, they just take the edge off.
There is no real timeline for recovery, and it is an individual thing, with surgery being the last option.
The last time I was in to see him, we discussed the addictive nature of these opioids, and that there would likely be a withdrawal period. They're not good things. We then talked about CBD oil (a derivative with the get you stoned stuff removed) / medical marijuana, as it is not addictive like the opioids. He was in favor of me exploring it as an option, as many people have good results with treating neuropathic pain via medical marijuana or its derivatives. He said I would have to go to a clinic to be assessed, and that there is a long wait, as they are so busy.
I am open to anything, and am interested in finding out more, particularly from people who have used it themselves as a pain treatment, or know people who have.
I am somewhat nervous about all of this, as I was an alcoholic at an early age, and have been dry for 24 years, so the last thing I need is getting hooked on anything.
If you have any experience personally, or of others close to you, I sure would be interested in hearing about it. I also understand that many people are reluctant to talk about this stuff publicly - trust me, I wrestled with even writing this - if you'd rather, I am fine with a pm.
If you have any other suggestions, I'd be happy to hear about them, as I'm sure I'm not the only person on the forum suffering with acute pain.
Thanks in advance.
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Goodness, that was a lot of words. If you have a question, please ask it.
I will say my dad has sciatica, got an inversion board, and is very happy with it.
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07-01-2017, 10:09 PM
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I too have been investigating the possibilities of pain reduction through the use of medical maryjane. So, I ponder being slightly high or maybe not. Then I got to thinking, how's my CD collection doing? Heck, I certainly wouldn't get out in public, not would I drive. But good tunes???? Dude.
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07-01-2017, 10:30 PM
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Given the scary manner in which the doctors will drop an opiate or tramadol prescription on someone these days I'd say cannabis is the more effective option.
We have friends whose son is riddled with seizures everyday. The only thing he's responded well to is CBS oil. When they discovered this and brought it to their specialists attention here (they were in Colorado seeing another specialist) she threatened to call child services. Instead see wanted to put him on a diet that would starve him for 4 months.
Like others have said, cancer patients for decades have been done a very very gracious disservice. I've had too many friends die of cancer and all of the ones that were given cannabis suffered far less and actually were able to eat.
Im happy to hear that folks are finding relief with this product.
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07-01-2017, 10:47 PM
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Not sure if it has been posted yet but there is a doctor in Edmonton that specializes in medical marijuana. If you look it up online, fill the paper work out then get in for an appointment. Once signed up you will find what ever you are most comfortable with in the same building as the doctors office. A friend had the same problem laid up in bed for weeks and finally got so frustrated and mad he hobbled onto his quad and went for a ride for the afternoon, his pain was almost completely gone days later. He told me constant movement even when it really hurt healed him up the quickest. Hope that helps 😁
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07-01-2017, 11:15 PM
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Not sure if it has been posted yet but there is a doctor in Edmonton that specializes in medical marijuana. If you look it up online, fill the paper work out then get in for an appointment. Once signed up you will find what ever you are most comfortable with in the same building as the doctors office. A friend had the same problem laid up in bed for weeks and finally got so frustrated and mad he hobbled onto his quad and went for a ride for the afternoon, his pain was almost completely gone days later. He told me constant movement even when it really hurt healed him up the quickest. Hope that helps 😁
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Could you find out who this Doctor is? I'm certainly tired of Tramidol and Oxy.
I'd love to give it a try.
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07-02-2017, 06:47 AM
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Look up Natural Health Services online. Dr. Ferrari I believe
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07-02-2017, 10:01 AM
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Mother-in-law tried using CBD oil and a few other medical marijuana products for nerve pain and nothing helped. I'm very skeptical about marijuana being the miracle treatment for all ailments as it is touted these days.
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07-02-2017, 10:34 AM
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Im responding to the start of your post with a option for you to try.I have spinal stenosis in the almost exact location of your problem.I went to draw my bow during a hunt one evening and it felt like I just got stabbed in the back of my neck and shoulder.The pain was awful and my hand and fingers were numb and sleeping on my back was not an option.I tried everything from chiro to accupunture and pain meds but nothing worked.I was given this drug called Lyrica for nerve pain and I could not focus or concentrate at all.So i quit that in a hurry.I had someone recommend me to a place in Edmonton called River Valley Health and it was finally something that worked for me.I had alot of people work on me for 3 months and the pain slowly started to disappear.It was not an overnight cure but it was done without taking zero pills or drugs whatsoever.There was a nerve that was impinged that ran from the base of my neck down through my shoulder.This may not be an option for you but it was for me.Hope you can find something that works for you as I can remember going thru hell for months and missing out on all of my hunting seasons that year.
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07-02-2017, 10:39 AM
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Mother-in-law tried using CBD oil and a few other medical marijuana products for nerve pain and nothing helped. I'm very skeptical about marijuana being the miracle treatment for all ailments as it is touted these days.
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Nerve pain is difficult to tolerate. Unfortunately, she needed to find the right stuff. Like the OTC stuff, people have different needs. Each variety of pot has different potential uses. That's where the help from a clinic comes in.
I don't consider it a miracle drug, just a dang good weapon in my arsenal against pain and negative mindset.
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10-14-2017, 08:54 PM
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CBD Oil effects on the human body
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I have a great infografic which explains in detail about the true effects of CBD on the human body. I am talking about 100% legal CBD Hemp oil not THC which is the phycoactive part.
https://www.flbest420.com/single-pos...t-Intoxication
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10-14-2017, 09:05 PM
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You signed up to an Outdoors Forum just to post this?
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10-14-2017, 09:48 PM
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I am about 7 years into a back problem that has seen me have 1 surgery and changing careers a few times. I am now sitting and waiting for a fusion surgery which they wont even put me on the surgery list until after I am 35.
My back isnt nearly as bad now as it has been but it does cause sleep problems and quality of life to go down hill fast when it does flare up.
I have thought about medicinal marijuana but am concerned with how the government will react with me holding a firearms license and a medical card at the same time.
If i knew for sure that I wouldnt have a problem with being a gun owner i would book an appointment in medicine hat to look further into this pain management.
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10-14-2017, 09:55 PM
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I am about 7 years into a back problem that has seen me have 1 surgery and changing careers a few times. I am now sitting and waiting for a fusion surgery which they wont even put me on the surgery list until after I am 35.
My back isnt nearly as bad now as it has been but it does cause sleep problems and quality of life to go down hill fast when it does flare up.
I have thought about medicinal marijuana but am concerned with how the government will react with me holding a firearms license and a medical card at the same time.
If i knew for sure that I wouldnt have a problem with being a gun owner i would book an appointment in medicine hat to look further into this pain management.
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Truthfully, it's a non-issue. If you're concerned, call the police and ask.
Here's the thing, i dare say the average cop would rather deal with someone stoned on weed rather than a drunk.
I've had a busted back for 31 years now, condition that will never heal and will get progressively worse - still managing but sometimes the sciatic pain will drive me insane. There are fantastic indicas out there for pain and sleep, and it does work.
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10-15-2017, 12:55 AM
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I am about 7 years into a back problem that has seen me have 1 surgery and changing careers a few times. I am now sitting and waiting for a fusion surgery which they wont even put me on the surgery list until after I am 35.
My back isnt nearly as bad now as it has been but it does cause sleep problems and quality of life to go down hill fast when it does flare up.
I have thought about medicinal marijuana but am concerned with how the government will react with me holding a firearms license and a medical card at the same time.
If i knew for sure that I wouldnt have a problem with being a gun owner i would book an appointment in medicine hat to look further into this pain management.
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A medical marijuana certificate and a firearms licens is no more an issue than s medical marijuana certificate and a drivers License .
I have several friends who have owns both for some time now ,
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10-15-2017, 08:29 AM
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I have been taking my medical MJ for hip pain for a little over a week now. At the starting dose it did nothing for me. I upped my dosage by 25% after 3 days and the difference was noticeable. Less pain and I was able to get a better sleep. Still not complete relief but at least as good as I was getting with an Xtra strength Tylenol and an Xtra strength Ibuprofen.
My health nurse wants me to start my daytime MJ routine as well, she says it is better to keep the inflammation under control rather than roller coaster the pain. I am thinking on this.
So not a life changer so far, but it does somewhat work.
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10-15-2017, 09:55 AM
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I am now living in Ontario and found there are hundreds of shops operating that sell bud and related products, to just about anyone provided they are over 18. No script required.
Talk to the budtender, tell him what you are looking for and voila. Daily specials too.
Not currently legal however doing brisk business without any police or government interference whatsoever.
Times, they are a changing.
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10-15-2017, 10:01 AM
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I am about 3 months into my experiment and am quite satisfied. My sleep though not perfect is far better than for years. I originally only wanted the night stuff but I am now taking a bit of CBD during the day. Over all I think my pain is managed better than ever.
When I went to see my prescribing doctor and the 420 clinic staff my prescription has been renewed with 2 different suppliesr. I had been taking a blend of sativa and indigo from one supplier. They felt that I could do even better ordering from two different suppliers. One they highly recommended for night time and one they thought would be better during the day because it was more indego than sativa.
My biggest concern is that the plastic syringe they supply start to leak with use. I have went to most of the drug stores in my area and non keep the syringes in stock. The druggist at Walmart Okotoks gave me a couple of small dose syringes that he had for another purpose.
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10-15-2017, 10:42 AM
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I've been suffering through a pinched nerve all week absolutely the worst pain I've been through. The chiropractor snapped my hip joint yesterday giving some relief however I have to walk every few hours or the pain returns. I tried T3's no effect
Robacet no effect
Blue cold rub lasts about 15 mins.
Advil does take the edge off
2 oz's of Dr. lemon Hart before bed helped a little
I've been doing laps around Walmart because the shopping cart holds me up. Life sucks with this pain I was thinking of trying the pot angle don't know where to score my contacts dried up 40 years ago.
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Drive to BC they damn near give it away there, try it it will likely work for you, it's for medicinal purposes. Buddy orders it online from Quebec.
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10-15-2017, 11:04 AM
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Mother-in-law tried using CBD oil and a few other medical marijuana products for nerve pain and nothing helped. I'm very skeptical about marijuana being the miracle treatment for all ailments as it is touted these days.
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Not really a miracle drug, it is like other drugs some people it helps and others it does not. Not unlike penicillin some people it helps, others it may kill you if you take it.
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10-15-2017, 11:31 AM
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I have had an ongoing ailment for months now, and also have Type 2 diabetes. I was referred to an Internal Medicine Dr. about my ongoing ailment. During my appointment he mentioned that my sugar was a little high and that if I could keep it under control in ten years or less there would be a cure for it.
I was reading about CBD when I came upon an article about CBD (Cannabidiol) and diabetes. CBD is the drug that is being tested for curing Type 2 diabetes and obesity.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2015/...-95335970.html
Another article mentioned that CBD is very quickly becoming "the" drug for seizures especially for young people, and soon will be "the" drug, as it has amazing results.
For some people CBD has really helped people who suffer from MS, Parkinsons and Fibromyalgia. My neighbor suffers from MS and has been slowly getting worse over the years, I have ordered some CBD for him. He now spends about 3K a month on meds. I am hoping it helps him. He has been to the Philippines for his MS but "their" cure did not work for him.
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10-15-2017, 11:35 AM
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One warning for those who have blood pressure issues or heart problems, THC can lower your blood pressure by 10 or 20 points. While that's good for the average person, it's not good if you're running low.
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10-15-2017, 12:01 PM
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My biggest concern is that the plastic syringe they supply start to leak with use. I have went to most of the drug stores in my area and non keep the syringes in stock. The druggist at Walmart Okotoks gave me a couple of small dose syringes that he had for another purpose.
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Try the CO-OP Home Health Care at 9309 Macleod Trail S. Located on West side a few blocks north of Southland Drive. Bulk and single sale medical supplies, fairly certain I saw shelves of various size syringes the last time we were there. We buy supplies to update/replenish our first aid kits from there.
Good to hear that so many people are having success with the MJ treatments.
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10-15-2017, 07:13 PM
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Try the CO-OP Home Health Care at 9309 Macleod Trail S. Located on West side a few blocks north of Southland Drive. Bulk and single sale medical supplies, fairly certain I saw shelves of various size syringes the last time we were there. We buy supplies to update/replenish our first aid kits from there.
Good to hear that so many people are having success with the MJ treatments.
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I know the place and will check it out next time I am in Calgary. Tx
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10-15-2017, 09:11 PM
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I had some shoulder issues a few weeks ago and I managed to get some buds and some edible gummies(not kidding) in bc. The pain was pretty brutal and it would throb all night so if i woke up it would be tough to get back to sleep. I tried the smoke the first time and i slept like a rock then the next night i tried the gummy candy and slept like a rock.
I think the pot helped alleviate the pain and caused some good sleep which helped heal my shoulder. The lack of sleep was slowing down progress it seemed. Getting a massage or watching a movie on the stuff is surreal too.
I think we got 30$ worth and it is pretty effective, 3 grams and a big gummy. I used maybe a 1/4 gram and an little nibble on this gummy thing for two nights.
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Have you tried spinal decompression yet? Help my bulge disks over the course of a 6-8 month treatment
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CBD Oil
Hey thank you for posting about this topic. Do you have any experience with CBD oil? I know that people also use CBD oil for PTSD
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