Would you say this is very dirty

[markg]

Most retailers sell plastic jags for must calibres. Call your favorite gun store and ask if they carry wipeout and plastic jags.

[Alephnaught]

Originally Posted by The Flint&Fly Guy

Interesting article, where can a guy buy this? And where to find a jag that's not brass?

For the jags, shops like Cabela's or Wholesale Sports will have them. P&D in Edmonton carries Wipeout and would also be a source for the jag as well.

While you're there, grab yourself a bore guide. It's just a tube that keeps all this stuff out of your action. If your cleaning rod is one of the screw-together types that comes in sections, I'd suggest replacing it with a one-piece rod. Tipton makes really nice one piece carbon fiber rods. Wholesale Sports for certain carries them. Cabela's does too I think & I'm not sure about P&D but believe they carry them too.

The reason you're avoiding a brass jag by the way is that brass is an alloy of copper and you'll get misleading blue tinging on your patches, as the copper is simply being dissolved from the jag itself.

[Dick284]

False copper from your jags is so obvious, and anyways a slight bit of fouling will seldom give you any grief.

It's gross fouling leading to accuracy drop off you gotta watch for.

How many know at around what round count this drop off of accuracy occurs at?

How many know whether their rifle shoots best squeaky clean, or after 3 rounds, 5 rounds, or maybe 20 rounds?


Truth is most guys over clean to begin with, it's not a bad habit, especially when you're putting rifles up for any sort of storage period. But really, worrying about a slight tinge of bluish green due to your jag.... give it a rest please.....

Use a bore guide
Use a one piece rod
Use your potion of delight
And go burn some powder weekly(I wish)

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

Thanks alephnaught, that should help.


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[warriorboy10]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

I clean at home or at the range, and either way, I use a proper one piece rod and cotton patches. I keep the muzzle taped in the field to keep it clean.
With a bore snake, unless you wash it after every single pass, you drag the same crud through the bore over and over again. I do carry a cable pull through for emergencies, but I have never used it. A bore snake is also useless for emergencies, because it's too limp to push through mud or snow in case of an emergency.

Make up your own mind!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtaCcz_0DDw

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by warriorboy10

Make up your own mind!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtaCcz_0DDw

Why do you suppose the military would equip soldiers with pull through string type cleaning tools rather than one piece cleaning rods? The obvious answer is that a one piece cleaning rod would be impractical to carry in the battle field, whereas a string is compact and easy to carry. It's really that simple.

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by warriorboy10

Make up your own mind!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtaCcz_0DDw

By 1:35 of the clip he has explained that he is doing a quick field cleaning. He goes on to further explain that the bore snake removes dry debris and particulate matter.

There's no solvents or anything used in the whole segment.
How do you suppose stuff like; powder fouling, carbon fouling, and copper fouling get removed from a rifle bore?

Once you've got that, c'mon back and try again......

[1Heavyhitr]

Originally Posted by Redneck Hippy

Wipe out changed my life.

You and I both!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MlbhpftfBo
Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkuzKRaiKKw

TheF&FG grab some wipe out and G96 and youre good. http://www.g96.com/products/gun-treatment/

[Huntsman]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Why do you suppose the military would equip soldiers with pull through string type cleaning tools rather than one piece cleaning rods? The obvious answer is that a one piece cleaning rod would be impractical to carry in the battle field, whereas a string is compact and easy to carry. It's really that simple.

Ummm, we don't get equipped with pull thru's to clean our wpns.
We get issued a sectional rod cleaning kit(s) for both small arms and MG's (different sizes for different cals).
WWI & WWII troops were equipped with pull thru cords which wreaked havoc on the muzzle crown of the Lee Enfield's.

Any pull thru type cleaning apparatus is a personal purchased item.

Current kit C7A2/C8A3 cleaning kit;

["No Choke"Lord Walsingham]

Nah that's not bad... I've had much dirtier!

Never did worry about how many patches it takes. Found I have used less after switching to my new favorite solvent -

1st Choice Bore Cleaner made by Plenty "O" Patches of Drayton Valley, AB!

[gitrdun]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Why do you suppose the military would equip soldiers with pull through string type cleaning tools rather than one piece cleaning rods? The obvious answer is that a one piece cleaning rod would be impractical to carry in the battle field, whereas a string is compact and easy to carry. It's really that simple.

If you refer to WWI and WWII, absolutly right. The intention then was to kill Nazis, period and it didn't matter whether it was done with Hail Marry shots or Sniper shots. Lee Enfield rifles were purposely made with excessive head space to account for dirt and grime in the action. It worked, I'm happy to say. But by today's standards in sporting arms, we need not adhere to those same standards for our purposes of recreational hunting and shooting. Back in the day, I would have been thankfull for such a device as a bore snake. However, nowadays, and with better products, I wouldn't even give it a second thought.

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by covey ridge

No mention of wipe out

LOL .. my thoughts as well.

[Salavee]

I don't understand all the fuss about using Bore Snakes.
Use them correctly and there is never an issue - and not chance of getting them stuck in the bore or any collateral damage from "barrel debris"' on the Snakes tail.

To run a Snake with a patch after Wipeout or other solvent treatment simply cut a 3"x3" patch in to four 1/2 "x 1 .5" strips and spiral wrap them around the Boresnake brush. The key is to use brushes about .020 (more or less) than bore diameter...eg. - for a 7mm, use a .264 bore brush and the patch. Replace Snakes as required. They last quite a long time.
I have not used anything other than Wipeout and a BoreSnake for nearly four years and I can assure you my bores are very clean and unscathed.

[The Flint&Fly Guy]

For a debate on boresnakes resurrect one of the previous on the topic of start a new thread, though I appreciate answers to how to clean my rifle from people on both sides of that fence.


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[GrandSlam]

If in doubt, foam it out...lol

[Dick284]

I have described boresnakes as wiping your arse with a hoola hoop.

And that there is the best analogy I've got.



https://bulletcentral.com/hawkeye-bo...-you-need-one/


It's unfortunate that I borrow the use of one of the above tools, but believe me boresnakes don't clean worth a pinch of dog doo, what a rod and patches does.

[58thecat]

Cleaning a rifle barrel is not that complicated, overthink it and well you get dizzy

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Cleaning a rifle barrel is not that complicated, overthink it and well you get dizzy

Or under acheive at it, and get urinary outcomes......

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Dick284

Or under acheive at it, and get urinary outcomes......

All ties into the renal system, then the cleaning gets complicated

[Diesel_wiesel]

just get a brass brush hook up a cordless drill to yer straight rod and run it in and out until the battery dies that should do the trick
if ya wreck a few barrels along the way well then chock it up to educating yerself , what the hay they make new guns everyday its only chump change for a new one

[sns2]

Please listen to Dick. His analogy is a proper one.