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Old 07-22-2021, 07:13 PM
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Sprayers are now being equipped with electrical PWM nozzles that do way more even application than earlier sprayers.

A swathed crop might have had a preharvest roundup application made to it for weed control. The swather does the actual desiccation of the crop. Getting harder to death crops anymore due to damage from waterfowl. These preharvest applications are for control of Canada Thistle and quackgrass.
Sub death for swath makes post make sense, no one swaths a preharvest crop, that being said swathing is a wildlife disaster, and no we dont really get compensated.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:20 PM
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Getting harder to death crops . yanisnyu.
Sorry forum policeman. I had typed swath. Apple products put in death instead of swath. To busy spending time with my kids this afternoon to proof read everything. Can’t edit much after it’s sent. No wonder a guy gets tired of this place.
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Old 07-22-2021, 08:27 PM
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Sub death for swath makes post make sense, no one swaths a preharvest crop, that being said swathing is a wildlife disaster, and no we dont really get compensated.
I have swathed preharvested crop and others have too in my area. Sometimes they snow down and that was the only way to deal with it.
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Old 07-22-2021, 10:26 PM
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I have swathed preharvested crop and others have too in my area. Sometimes they snow down and that was the only way to deal with it.
Snowed down of course, but not a normal thing. In theory spraying or swathing should equal out, you and I know that but comments meant for the urbanite crowd.
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Old 07-23-2021, 08:33 AM
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So then, are all standing crops sprayed to keep them on schedule.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:38 AM
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So then, are all standing crops sprayed to keep them on schedule.
I spray mainly for the weed control. Without preharvest spray we would have to go back to summer fallow every four years to keep ahead of weeds. Going back to that will bring back the dust storms and soil erosion.

If you spray your crop too early you lose out on yield and grade. Kernels shrivel up and look like frost damaged. So no you can’t just spray to keep crop on schedule without a financial impact. That being said sometimes there are late tillers that won’t amount to anything so as long as you spray at the right time those are dried down to get crop ready to harvest.

Green material in the bin is a recipe for disaster when storing grain. That’s why straight cut crops are sprayed to eliminate those green weeds that can cause grain heating in storage later. Swathing does the same thing but as said wildlife damage can be severe and we do not get compensated much for the damage done.
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Old 07-23-2021, 10:05 AM
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I spray mainly for the weed control. Without preharvest spray we would have to go back to summer fallow every four years to keep ahead of weeds. Going back to that will bring back the dust storms and soil erosion.

If you spray your crop too early you lose out on yield and grade. Kernels shrivel up and look like frost damaged. So no you can’t just spray to keep crop on schedule without a financial impact. That being said sometimes there are late tillers that won’t amount to anything so as long as you spray at the right time those are dried down to get crop ready to harvest.

Green material in the bin is a recipe for disaster when storing grain. That’s why straight cut crops are sprayed to eliminate those green weeds that can cause grain heating in storage later. Swathing does the same thing but as said wildlife damage can be severe and we do not get compensated much for the damage done.
is zero till then directly facilitated by spraying?

I helped a buddy farm for a number of years, 40 years ago. Time spent tilling and harvesting were some of the most enjoyable. Don't remember any chemicals around, but it was your typical low budget family farm.

Being an avid waterfowler, I miss the days of swath.
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:01 AM
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is zero till then directly facilitated by spraying?

I helped a buddy farm for a number of years, 40 years ago. Time spent tilling and harvesting were some of the most enjoyable. Don't remember any chemicals around, but it was your typical low budget family farm.

Being an avid waterfowler, I miss the days of swath.
Direct seeding (zero till) would not happen without glyphosate. The sprayer has replaced the tillage units. Farms are able to cover more acres with less labor and less equipment.

The other added benefit is moisture retention in the soil. Due to the drought in the prairies this year many crops are struggling but I think it would be a total disaster if we would’ve still been doing conventional tillage.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:02 AM
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Why oh Why would we spray our wheat with a cancer causing herbicide a few days before we harvest it to bake our bread???
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Old 07-24-2021, 03:31 PM
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Why oh Why would we spray our wheat with a cancer causing herbicide a few days before we harvest it to bake our bread???
$$$$$ that’s why. I know it’s not “supposed” to hurt us, but it seems a lot of research suggests differently.
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