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Old 03-26-2023, 09:33 AM
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I have been shooting the Rem and Win 170's in both the Win 94 30-30 and 32 win special for years. Any real advantage to going to the Hornady FTX 165. Have you experienced any loading or unloading cartridge problems.
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:18 AM
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I have reloaded with 160 ftx with 36g of leverevolution powder

I did not see an improvement in accuracy enough that I would consider buying another box of 100. There was nothing wrong with them, but I get as good accuracy from 150g Berry bullets at 150 yds. So for my purposes, it doesnt make sense. Berry bullets are $22 /100 and ftx are $75/100.


I do not have a scope on my 3030.

When I loaded the ftx, I would seat the bullet in 3 stages bu simply turning the cartridge a bit, pull the lever down a bit, turn the cartridge a bit, then pull the lever to full seat it.

The reason was I seated one bullet with one full pull of the lever, i found the base of the bullet bulged one side of the shoulder/neck of the brass. If i turned the cartridge 2 or 3 times during the seating process, it was fine

Thing is, none of my other bullets have ever done this. Just the 160g ftx.
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Old 03-26-2023, 10:21 PM
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Shot a bunch through a 357 carbine last year. They worked well, fed properly, no malfunctions, accuracy on par with regular jsp’s.

I don’t have a chrono yet to say if they achieved the advertised ballistic superiority.

Somewhat bigger issue for me is the shorter brass, having to keep that separate. You won’t have that in a 3030 though.

Only way to know if the price is worth it is to try em in your gun.
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Old 03-27-2023, 06:31 AM
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I have shot a pile of them. My load is the same as huntinstuff. Its killed deer very well out to 250. They are extremely soft though so not ideal for moose/ elk IMO. Nothing specific or special to handload in the 336. They are a good deer bullet.
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Old 03-27-2023, 08:57 AM
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My friend shot a moose in the shoulder at a 75 yard distance and saw the bullet bounce off. Spent half a day trailing it before he was able to finish it off.
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Old 03-28-2023, 05:10 PM
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My friend shot a moose in the shoulder at a 75 yard distance and saw the bullet bounce off. Spent half a day trailing it before he was able to finish it off.
What did he use for powder? Baking soda?
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My friend shot a moose in the shoulder at a 75 yard distance and saw the bullet bounce off. Spent half a day trailing it before he was able to finish it off.
Hit anything in the scapula and there’s a chance you’ll be tracking it for a day.

I’ve loaded 200gr FTX exclusively for a 35 Remington. He no qualms taking it elk hunting just never crossed an elk at what I felt was a comfortable range for that rifle. Deer on the other hand were Amtrak’d!
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what did he use for powder? Baking soda?
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:43 PM
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Factory ammunition.
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What did he use for powder? Baking soda?
Likely baking powder.
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Hit anything in the scapula and there’s a chance you’ll be tracking it for a day.

My 458 WM with 540 grain hard cast says different...............
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Old 03-29-2023, 05:50 PM
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My friend shot a moose in the shoulder at a 75 yard distance and saw the bullet bounce off. Spent half a day trailing it before he was able to finish it off.
When you say it bounced off...do you mean it failed to penetrate ie pancaked on the shoulder? Or bounced off like a rubber ball? Did it make that ricochet sound? Only projectile I have ever seen bounce off an animal is rubber 12g slugs..but those are designed to to bounce off..
The FTX is noted for being very soft and the 30-30 is known for lower velocities that even at its best should not be used on heavy bone or penetration is severely diminished. In this case the FTX exasperated the inherent weakness of the cartridge. A well built 170gr behind the shoulder would have had much different results.
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