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Old 02-21-2018, 09:20 PM
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I am an undergraduate student at the University of British Columbia and am completing a thesis project. We are interested in perspectives of hunters in British Columbia and Alberta. Hunters' perspectives are often overlooked in research which is why we are interested in this topic. My background in hunting is limited to falconry, but have registered hunters in my family. My research will be based on the results of this survey with the intention of publishing these results in a wildlife management journal.

We would greatly appreciate your input in taking a 5-10 minute survey to share your thoughts on hunting in Alberta: http://lfs.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_2bf4wACAZvGFG9n

Thank you for your time!
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:26 PM
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Good luck with your survey, I've been hunting in ab since I was 14
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:26 PM
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Being a new poster you will experience some skepticism about the intent of your questions. As often as not, answering such inquiries might be detrimental to our cause as the intent of the surveyor might well be misconstrued. Such is the thought process of people involved in an activity that is under political fire from people who oppose our activities based on their own moralities.
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:29 PM
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Being a new poster you will experience some skepticism about the intent of your questions. As often as not, answering such inquiries might be detrimental to our cause as the intent of the surveyor might well be misconstrued. Such is the thought process of people involved in an activity that is under political fire from people who oppose our activities based on their own moralities.
My thoughts exactly, which is why I responded rather than taking the survey.
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:37 PM
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What are you hope on gaining from these Surveys?
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:22 AM
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What are you hope on gaining from these Surveys?
Actually surveys/papers are used all the time by those making policy change to back up their work (think about violence against woman, housing density, etc).

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Old 02-22-2018, 05:40 AM
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Done, easy, not sure how these questions gather data to provide what info but either way painless to complete.
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:19 AM
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:54 AM
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Done. Hopefully this ends up being able to counter some of the negative (and I think largely unfounded) stereotypes of hunters.
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:05 AM
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Done.

Thought it as a very open and well written survey to help identify possible research questions.
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:04 AM
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:17 AM
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I initially hesitated to complete the questions, once I saw the three options for sex, as that type of nonsense makes me wonder about the people that came up with this, but I did finish the questions.
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:58 AM
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Hi!

I am an undergraduate student at the University of British Columbia and am completing a thesis project. We are interested in perspectives of hunters in British Columbia and Alberta. Hunters' perspectives are often overlooked in research which is why we are interested in this topic. My background in hunting is limited to falconry, but have registered hunters in my family. My research will be based on the results of this survey with the intention of publishing these results in a wildlife management journal.

We would greatly appreciate your input in taking a 5-10 minute survey to share your thoughts on hunting in Alberta: http://lfs.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_2bf4wACAZvGFG9n

Thank you for your time!
Thank you all so much for your responses. I have received a lot of replies and have now paused collection (can only work through so much data in a limited time period). I greatly appreciate it!
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:32 AM
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Thank you all so much for your responses. I have received a lot of replies and have now paused collection (can only work through so much data in a limited time period). I greatly appreciate it!
Sorry that I missed an opportunity to view the survey.

To maintain your integrity, it will be pertinent that you share your thesis with those you asked for help. Please come back to this thread and post a link to the paper when available.

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Old 02-21-2018, 09:42 PM
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I have spoken with the student doing the research, and have taken the survey. There are no loaded questions by any means, and does not in any way seem to aligned with any cause which would be detrimental to our hunting pursuits. I am inclined to want to help out and be hospitable. Survey is also very short.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:06 AM
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I have spoken with the student doing the research, and have taken the survey. There are no loaded questions by any means, and does not in any way seem to aligned with any cause which would be detrimental to our hunting pursuits. I am inclined to want to help out and be hospitable. Survey is also very short.
I agree there are no questions that anyone
couldn't answer to anyone who is a normal hunter .
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:10 AM
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I agree there are no questions that anyone
couldn't answer to anyone who is a normal hunter .
I looked at it yesterday and saw the thread was closed.
Mods cleaned it up and ready- opened it afterwards after some investigation I suppose . I then filled it out last night .
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:37 AM
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I looked at it yesterday and saw the thread was closed.
Mods cleaned it up and ready- opened it afterwards after some investigation I suppose . I then filled it out last night .
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You are right, Cat. I conversed with the young person last night. Comes from a family of hunters, and is personally involved in falconry! Kinda makes him/her one of us I'd say. Wants to do a research on hunters' values in BC and AB, as there is not much out there.

Kid is just looking to get a degree. Student is in Dr Walker's class. This Dr Walker seems to do a lot of research into the branding of animals (cows and sea lions). Dr Walker could be the devil incarnate, but this is just a young person in her class.

I was in an English class once where the prof's area of specialty was gay men's literature. After the date where we could no longer drop the class w/o penalty, he made us read novels about middle eastern men sodomizing each other and animals. That class, though I got the worst mark in my university career, never made me middle eastern nor one who sodomizes people or cows. People get so bent out of shape over nothing. I hope the kid gets a heckuva good mark!
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:40 AM
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You are right, Cat. I conversed with the young person last night. Comes from a family of hunters, and is personally involved in falconry! Kinda makes him/her one of us I'd say. Wants to do a research on hunters' values in BC and AB, as there is not much out there.

Kid is just looking to get a degree. Student is in Dr Walker's class. This Dr Walker seems to do a lot of research into the branding of animals (cows and sea lions). Dr Walker could be the devil incarnate, but this is just a young person in her class.

I was in an English class once where the prof's area of specialty was gay men's literature. After the date where we could no longer drop the class w/o penalty, he made us read novels about middle eastern men sodomizing each other and animals. That class, though I got the worst mark in my university career, never made me middle eastern nor one who sodomizes people or cows. People get so bent out of shape over nothing. I hope the kid gets a heckuva good mark!
Hope that class was worth the price...wtf are they teaching people in University that is worth life long debt?
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:16 AM
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I have spoken with the student doing the research, and have taken the survey. There are no loaded questions by any means, and does not in any way seem to aligned with any cause which would be detrimental to our hunting pursuits. I am inclined to want to help out and be hospitable. Survey is also very short.
Thanks for posting your experience. I was doubtful, so I skipped right over it, but I will probably have a second look now.
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:56 PM
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I have spoken with the student doing the research, and have taken the survey. There are no loaded questions by any means, and does not in any way seem to aligned with any cause which would be detrimental to our hunting pursuits. I am inclined to want to help out and be hospitable. Survey is also very short.
A word of caution here...

UBC students have infiltrated HuntBC on several occasions, sometimes in the exact same style as seen here. At other times they have signed up incognito to collect screen shots that side with their Agenda. In the vast majority of cases, the results have been anything but "on the side" of hunters, and have actually been employed to show them in the most negative light possible.

A quick check of the Graduate Students list & bios well indicate the two undergrads in this particular case are both deeply entwined in the "Animal Welfare Program":

http://awp.landfood.ubc.ca/people/graduate-students/

Now perhaps these two are somehow different than their colleagues who have pulled this kind of charade off on HuntBC. Perhaps...

Just a word regarding potential issues with how your information might be used down the road...

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These folks just tried the exact same act over on HuntBC.

They have been exposed as ANTI's.

Just a Head's Up in case they return...
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These folks just tried the exact same act over on HuntBC.

They have been exposed as ANTI's.

Just a Head's Up in case they return...
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Thanks nog, your on the net more than the rest of us, at least me, keep us albertans informed of these wankers when they pop up elsewhere.
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Thanks nog, your on the net more than the rest of us, at least me, keep us albertans informed of these wankers when they pop up elsewhere.
Will do. There are a few of us watching...


Katie Mills

Katie MillsI graduated from UBC in 2015 with a BSc (Honours) in Applied Animal Biology. During my undergraduate degree I began to explore the field of animal welfare science and had my first introduction to research through the Animal Welfare Program in 2013. From there I had the opportunity to work on a variety of projects including my undergraduate thesis on public perceptions of medically unnecessary surgeries in companion animals. After graduating, I became a research assistant before starting my MSc in September 2016. I am interested in how the understanding of stakeholder attitudes can help to improve animal welfare; specifically, my research will focus on farmer attitudes towards management practices for cows during the transition period.

http://awp.landfood.ubc.ca/people/graduate-students/

Her "co-author" does not appear on any UBC student listing.

The Animal Welfare Program at UBC is well recognized as a breeding ground for those who seek out ways to disparage hunting, the hunting community and any who support that.

Despite requests regarding the title of the supposed thesis (co-authored? At a Masters level?), the focus of the thesis, the target wildlife journal it was intended to be submitted to, and the expected end use of the data collected, they did not provide any answers. They were entirely aware of the queries, and given opportunity to respond. They did not.

Another of our crew investigated their twitter feed. What was discovered there was sufficient to identify them as Anti-Hunters, and the thread was shut down on HuntBC.

Next...
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Old 02-27-2018, 08:05 PM
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A word of caution here...

UBC students have infiltrated HuntBC on several occasions, sometimes in the exact same style as seen here. At other times they have signed up incognito to collect screen shots that side with their Agenda. In the vast majority of cases, the results have been anything but "on the side" of hunters, and have actually been employed to show them in the most negative light possible.

A quick check of the Graduate Students list & bios well indicate the two undergrads in this particular case are both deeply entwined in the "Animal Welfare Program":

http://awp.landfood.ubc.ca/people/graduate-students/

Now perhaps these two are somehow different than their colleagues who have pulled this kind of charade off on HuntBC. Perhaps...

Just a word regarding potential issues with how your information might be used down the road...

Cheers,
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This person is an undergrad. She hunts, but with a falcon. I've seen the pics. The survey allowed us to give our views. Anyone can take screenshots without being a member.
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OP would have to have at least 60 posts invested
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I suppose that you could let non hunters fill out the survey instead.
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Done, short and sweet.
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Yup, tinfoil off. It seemed rather innocuous.
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Seemed easy enough might provide good info that hunters aren't cold blooded killers like many non hunters think we are.
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