update on the Calgary pit bull attack

[silverdoctor]

Couldn't find the other thread but police are saying set the dogs loose on the poor woman the dogs attacked...

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/21...k-on-calgarian

[BeeGuy]

funny that the same breeds always seem to come up in these stories.

Can't remember the last time a lab tore someone apart, but hey, must be the owners, not the breeds.

I hope the victim is able to make a strong recovery and get past this incident.

What a horror show.

Hope the owner goes down for attempted murder.

[Pincherguy]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

funny that the same breeds always seem to come up in these stories.

Can't remember the last time a lab tore someone apart, but hey, must be the owners, not the breeds.

I hope the victim is able to make a strong recovery and get past this incident.

What a horror show.

Hope the owner goes down for attempted murder.

X 2 put the beautch away for a long time

[sparky660]

Some people shouldn't be allowed to own dogs, especially dogs that have a reputation of being more agressive than most. The dogs probably didn't know any better, IMO they should take the owner out back, not the dog.

[Tactical Lever]

Should charge the owner with attempted murder. Can't really blame the surviving dog for doing what it was trained to do, but it should have been killed on the spot.

Hard to believe that the neighbors tolerated that kind of menace in their neighborhood. If the authorities would not act, the dogs should have been surreptitiously put down by a citizen.

[Pincherguy]

Originally Posted by Tactical Lever

Should charge the owner with attempted murder. Can't really blame the surviving dog for doing what it was trained to do, but it should have been killed on the spot.

Hard to believe that the neighbors tolerated that kind of menace in their neighborhood. If the authorities would not act, the dogs should have been surreptitiously put down by a citizen.

AGREED

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Hope the owner goes down for attempted murder.

Have to agree on that, or at least aggravated assault.


I still have a hard time blaming the dogs, with the owners history? She shouldn't have had them to begin with. Highly doubt they were socialized in any way.

[Clgy_Dave2.0]

*edit*...ah, I was just playing devil's advocate. I agree though.

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Hope the owner goes down for attempted murder.

Agreed

[bezner]

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Calgary Dave

*edit*...ah, I was just playing devil's advocate. I agree though.



Agreed

I thought devil's advocate was my role.

[Tactical Lever]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

funny that the same breeds always seem to come up in these stories.

Can't remember the last time a lab tore someone apart, but hey, must be the owners, not the breeds.

I hope the victim is able to make a strong recovery and get past this incident.

What a horror show.

Hope the owner goes down for attempted murder.

Poodles are actually the highest per breed "people biters". Pit bulls by rights should not be on the radar, though while being bred to fight, they are also bred to be "people dogs". The ideal fighting pit bull was thought to be 40-45 lbs. and have so little aggression towards people that it should be able to be picked up when the fight is clearly over. The fights were routinely stopped before a dog was killed, by picking up the winning dog off the other one. The dogs that bit people in response to this, rarely got to pass on their genes.

I'd say very few people breed pit bulls to fit the above criterion, especially concerning size.

Pits and related guardian, or fighting dogs get a bad rap when they are purchased as a weapon of intimidation, or to show how "macho" the owner is.

Plenty of other dogs (like Huskys, or Ikedas) are not particularly stranger or kid friendly, but slip under the radar, because they are usually not coming from poor blood lines and going to drug dealing trash.

Though when a pit, or other "scary" breed attacks, it can be bad, because they are bred for jaw strength, imperviousness to pain and tenacity.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Tactical Lever

Poodles are actually the highest per breed "people biters". Pit bulls by rights should not be on the radar, though while being bred to fight, they are also bred to be "people dogs". The ideal fighting pit bull was thought to be 40-45 lbs. and have so little aggression towards people that it should be able to be picked up when the fight is clearly over. The fights were routinely stopped before a dog was killed, by picking up the winning dog off the other one. The dogs that bit people in response to this, rarely got to pass on their genes.

I'd say very few people breed pit bulls to fit the above criterion, especially concerning size.

Pits and related guardian, or fighting dogs get a bad rap when they are purchased as a weapon of intimidation, or to show how "macho" the owner is.

Plenty of other dogs (like Huskys, or Ikedas) are not particularly stranger or kid friendly, but slip under the radar, because they are usually not coming from poor blood lines and going to drug dealing trash.

Though when a pit, or other "scary" breed attacks, it can be bad, because they are bred for jaw strength, imperviousness to pain and tenacity.

Standard or toy?

I've been bit by several chihuahua's and they can be tenacious, however they are not impervious to pain, nor are they bred for jaw strength. Most of all, they can't tear a person limb from limb.

[Clgy_Dave2.0]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

I thought devil's advocate was my role.

LOL...nah, I just threw up a bunch of links to Lab attacks. But I didn't really want to get that war started again. I've owned both labs and a Pitty, I love both breeds. But agree that Pits obviously have a much higher attack rate.

[Tactical Lever]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Standard or toy?

I've been bit by several chihuahua's and they can be tenacious, however they are not impervious to pain, nor are they bred for jaw strength. Most of all, they can't tear a person limb from limb.

You forgot miniature, but I believe it was standard.

A good many dogs can tear a person up, but I don't believe that should be a benchmark to decide whether the breed is good or bad.

There are a few breeds I would steer clear of owning because of temperament, but I wouldn't lump pit bulls in that category.

It's rather the training and how the dogs are treated. Also fitting the dog to your lifestyle, family and current pets. Some dogs with a high prey drive might not get along with your cat or smaller dogs.

[Tactical Lever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsGp-...eature=related

Hope the woman recovers emotionally and physically.

[Mekanik]

I have been bitten by labs, ****zus, chihuahuas, beagles, shepherds and nipped at by my own pups which are mutts.

In all the years of being around pits, rotties, and dobies, that friends have owned, I've never been bit.

I have visited the hospital for the bites given to me by a beagle and the ****zus almost required stitches from three different ones.

Why don't we ban those breeds?

Oh wait, in each case, these dogs were allowed to become aggressive and we're not under the control of a good owner.

It appears that it seems to have happened again.

I hope that young woman recovers and hopefully understands that not all dogs are going to attack her.

[NoKlu]

If it would save one life, we should ban all dogs.

[CanuckShooter]

It happened in a trailer court....and people are surprised??

[Mekanik]

Originally Posted by CanuckShooter

It happened in a trailer court....and people are surprised??

In the words of Cameron Poe, "My momma lives in a trailer."

Spent five months living in one: drug dealer on one side (two bull mastiffs), lady who ran an escort service on the other(two rotties). Never had to lock my door. Those dogs were soooks too.

[silverdoctor]

Well, she's in custody... Going to be interesting to see what happens.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ck-arrest.html

[joshcat]

well lets sing it, here comes the ban little darlin. (sung to the tune of the beatles here comes the sun)

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Have to agree on that, or at least aggravated assault.


I still have a hard time blaming the dogs, with the owners history? She shouldn't have had them to begin with. Highly doubt they were socialized in any way.

Hey..attack dogs have to be registered.
You weaponise an animal...you take on a pretty big responsibility.

If she set those dogs on the other woman its no different than taking a baseball bat to her.

[Matt L.]

Originally Posted by pesky672

Hey..attack dogs have to be registered.
You weaponise an animal...you take on a pretty big responsibility.

If she set those dogs on the other woman its no different than taking a baseball bat to her.

I'd say this is worse, she created two living weapons and set Them on a visitor to her home.

[Elkhunt]

Originally Posted by sparky660

Some people shouldn't be allowed to own dogs, especially dogs that have a reputation of being more agressive than most. The dogs probably didn't know any better, IMO they should take the owner out back, not the dog.

x2

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Matt L.

I'd say this is worse, she created two living weapons and set Them on a visitor to her home.

No doubt...I just mean't the responsibility thing.

She attacked another person with weapons.

Worse still it sounds like she was successful teaching the attack part but not the stop or heel part.

[Rocky7]

Blaming a Pit Bull for an attack is like blaming a Lab for fetching. It's what they were bred to do. Hence, they should be regulated.

[C.Noble]

As mentioned earlier pit bulls were never bred to attack people. They were bred as ratting dogs then for bear and bull baiting and when that became illegal they were bred for dog fighting. Not to attack people... Ever. The fact that these dogs attacked someone is because they were trained specifically to do so. A pit will do whatever it takes to please it's owner. Mine are babies. Always have been but that's what they were raised to be. I've been bit by labs, chows, shepards and countless floor mop dogs. Never by a pit

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by C.Noble

As mentioned earlier pit bulls were never bred to attack people. They were bred as ratting dogs then for bear and bull baiting and when that became illegal they were bred for dog fighting. Not to attack people... Ever. The fact that these dogs attacked someone is because they were trained specifically to do so. A pit will do whatever it takes to please it's owner. Mine are babies. Always have been but that's what they were raised to be. I've been bit by labs, chows, shepards and countless floor mop dogs. Never by a pit

Historically maybe....but now in the days of drugs, gangs and organized crime sadly the "pitbull" is being bred and trained to rip people's faces off....don't kid yourself. Historically no the pitbull was not bred, raised and trained for this......BUT some people today are breeding, raising and training them for this....

Like you said these dogs were trained for this.....if thats is all they know then they should be destroyed along with the owners and the ones who trained them for this...

LC

[C.Noble]

Never said the dogs shouldn't be put down but you cant blame them as a breed. Responsibility belongs to the owner. And she should be charged with everything possible

[catnthehat]

The last dog Ii was bitten by was a 1 year old GSP.
I scared here and she bit me, cut and dried my fault.
The fact that the pup was familiar to me has nothing to do with it.
Cat