Alberta fish slam ?

crazyfish · #1 03-22-2010, 10:40 AM

Has anyone caught all the "sportfish" in alberta ? I'm personaly a few short, but it's an interesting goal. My next thought was, " can i do it in one summer ?" Could it be done in a well planned week?

lake whites in summer, golden trout could be two harder ones . Thinking summer for the sturgeon before they migrate out !

Any thoughts, ideas, anyone tried it ?

Mike_W · #2 03-22-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyfish

lake whites in summer, golden trout could be two harder ones .

Lake whites in summer may be tough but open water not really the fall is a great time to catch whitefish ...even from shore as this is there spawn.

So what would be on the list?

Walleye
Pike
Perch
Lake Whitefish
Mountain Whitefish
Burbot
Rainbow trout
Brook trout
Brown trout
Bull trout
Lake trout
Golden trout
Cutthroat trout
Sauger
Grayling
Sturgeon
Goldeye

Yeah I would say that would be a hard one to do in a week .....but in a entire open water season it would be possible.

Dougie55 · #3 03-22-2010, 11:22 AM

Although not many around, should not leave out Saugeye or Mooneye.

BigRackLover · #4 03-22-2010, 11:38 AM

What about Splake?

crazyfish · #5 03-22-2010, 11:58 AM

The sauger, and moon eye, i think would be caught as incidental trying for sturgeon on the NSR or SSR. This would also probably get the walleyes, goldeyes and maybe pike and burbot as well . So if done right, theres 1 day, and potentially almost 1/3 of the list.

Another day down south on the bow or similar river , browns and rainbows, and rocky mtn whites.

A pack trip in for the golden trout. Are the cutts nearby here as well ?

A day around smoke lake you could get grayling on the little smoky, maybe a white fish in the lake as well as pike or walleye if not yet caught.

Head south towards hinton for some bull trout and Rockies if not yet caught !

A day out @ spray lake, or cold lake shoulld get a lake trout, the theres just the burbot to try and find, as well as clean up any loose ends !

I think if it was well thought out and a few good breaks, it could be done !

incept · #6 03-22-2010, 12:31 PM

Awesome idea. I think this will be my next goal. I have already caught all but 3 or 4 species on the list however I think trying to accomplish it in one summer would be fantastic. We should get a list of intrested people and keep track of things and give each other a hand in locating hot bites and such.. Anyone in?

Erik · #7 03-22-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyfish

Has anyone caught all the "sportfish" in alberta ? I'm personaly a few short, but it's an interesting goal. My next thought was, " can i do it in one summer ?" Could it be done in a well planned week?

Any thoughts, ideas, anyone tried it ?

This reminds me of the days that we would have daily limit tub-out derbies in the QCI:

4 salmon (2 chinook), 3 Ling Cod, 2 Hali, 5 Rockfish

Best I did was about 4 hours.

I think that Alberta limits could be done in a week. There is plenty of travel in between, but if you were determined you could do it in a week IMO.

thumper · #8 03-22-2010, 03:17 PM

I've attempted an Icefields Parkway 'Grand Slam' in Banff and Jasper.
All in one day - and on one fly.
We got our rainbow, cutthroat, brook, bull, and rocky mountain whitefish - but the lakers in Bow Lake wouldn't take our pheasant-tail nymph!

the local angler · #9 03-22-2010, 07:16 PM

in britian they have a 30 day challenge to catch all the game species and i am going to adopt the same senario and do that this year in 30 days catch all alberta game species like what you want to do. the only two species i have not caught yet is the golden trout and grayling. i think the golden trout is going to be a huge challenge to find.

crazyfish · #10 03-22-2010, 07:39 PM

They (golden trout) only live in 2 or 3 lakes in AB and they are hike in....not hard to find, maybe hard to catch ? The lake whitefish in summer i believe could be the troublesome one ! I like the 30 day rule, makes it do-able on weekends! I honestly think the rest are just a matter of planning, and a bit of luck !

DuckBrat · #11 03-22-2010, 10:01 PM

Finished the Alberta slam in 1999, now BC, then Canada and then I take over the world!

This includes an Island lake small mouth bass, my first. My photo album has a shot of each fish which I have stopped boring most folks with.

DuckBrat · #12 03-22-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyfish

The lake whitefish in summer i believe could be the troublesome one ! !

Troll nymphs in May and June at Gull lake. Prince, hares, pheasant tale on one leader and you'll connect, no problem.

Alex K · #13 03-23-2010, 09:11 AM

I have yet to make it in after Golden, but one day perhaps I will get to them.
All others accounted for including Northern Dolly Varden from Chester Lake.

Alex Kreis

#14 03-23-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex K

I have yet to make it in after Golden, but one day perhaps I will get to them.
All others accounted for including Northern Dolly Varden from Chester Lake.

Alex Kreis

You can throw Quebec red trout and smallmouth bass into the Alberta mix as well..if you really want to make it challenging......those are the two I'm missing in Alberta.

McLeod · #15 03-23-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

You can throw Quebec red trout and smallmouth bass into the Alberta mix as well..if you really want to make it challenging......those are the two I'm missing in Alberta.

Smallmouth is may not even be possible so I would not consider that one.. but the Red trout is.. That one would be worth of a story..

crazyfish · #16 03-23-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

You can throw Quebec red trout and smallmouth bass into the Alberta mix as well..if you really want to make it challenging......those are the two I'm missing in Alberta.

Excuse my ignorance, but i've never seen it listed or regs about it . Are they concentrated in only a few lakes , or have i just missed something? Could you send a pm if not wanting to say where they are on a public forum.

#17 03-23-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyfish

Excuse my ignorance, but i've never seen it listed or regs about it . Are they concentrated in only a few lakes , or have i just missed something? Could you send a pm if not wanting to say where they are on a public forum.

As far as I know, Quebec Red Trout are only found in place in Banff.....Block Lakes. I've talked with two people that have made the trip in there and it's suppose to be grueling but the one fellow did hook one and it was spectacular looking. It's been on my bucket list ever since.

Smallmouth are supposedly still found in Island Lake but getting confirmation in the past few years is nearly impossible it seems.

Pierre · #18 03-23-2010, 12:48 PM

What about
Yellowstone Cutthroats ?
Athabascan rainbow
Tiger
Steelhead
Arctic Char (not Dollies/bulls/brookies/lakers or splake)

They can all be found in Alberta

not sure if any Atlantic Salmon are still present in Miinnie though

#19 03-23-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre

What about
Yellowstone Cutthroats ?
Athabascan rainbow
Tiger
Steelhead
Arctic Char (not Dollies/bulls/brookies/lakers or splake)

They can all be found in Alberta

not sure if any Atlantic Salmon are still present in Miinnie though

Where can tiger, steelhead and Arctic char be found in Alberta?

I doubt you'd find any Atlantic salmon in Minnewanka. The last stocking was in 1963. The last Atlantic samon I heard of in Alberta were in Pyramid Lake in Jasper but I think they've long since disappeared as well.

There's been lots of species of fish dumped into Alberta lakes that no longer survive. Not sure who thought largemouth bass would survive in Minnewanka...lol

McLeod · #20 03-23-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre

What about
Yellowstone Cutthroats ?
Athabascan rainbow
Tiger
Steelhead
Arctic Char (not Dollies/bulls/brookies/lakers or splake)

They can all be found in Alberta

not sure if any Atlantic Salmon are still present in Miinnie though

Yellowstone cuts yes
Athabees yes..
Arctic Char ..some escaped into the Elbow..other places ?
Steelhead ?
Tigers ?

italk2u · #21 03-23-2010, 01:26 PM

if you're including saugeye and splake, then you must include Cutbows as well.

Alex K · #22 03-23-2010, 01:29 PM

As for some of the fish mentioned here is my thoughts.

Small Mouth (haven't seen any solid proof the still exist in Island Lake only here say without pics or proof)

Yellowstone Cutthroat (have landed many in Banff National park)

Atlantic Salmon (They were stocked in Minniwanka in the early 20's along with many other species that never took)

Athabasca Rainbows (Caught them while filming on the Kakwa River)

Arctic Char ( Other than the ones that got loose In Lott Creek from Allans Trout farm they don't exist. It was thought at one time the fish in Chester Lake were Arctic Char but they are in fact Northern Dolly Varden.

As for the Quebec Red Trout I forget what I discovered about them But I believe they are Northern Dollies, I will look into my research file again to figure that on out.

Tiger Trout (Have not heard of any place that they exist)

Steelhead (Well that one is interesting but if in fact as reported that the Rainbow in the Bow originated from wild Steelhead strains in BC I guess I caught those too) But to me they are'nt Steelhead unless they run to the Ocean)

Splake (perhaps I have caught those in Minniwanka,but not 100% sure about that one)Brought one to the Creel survey station at Minni that they said was a splake.

Just My thoughts

Alex Kreis

#23 03-23-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex K

As for some of the fish mentioned here is my thoughts.

Small Mouth (haven't seen any solid proof the still exist in Island Lake only here say without pics or proof)

Yellowstone Cutthroat (have landed many in Banff National park)

Atlantic Salmon (They were stocked in Minniwanka in the early 20's along with many other species that never took)

Athabasca Rainbows (Caught them while filming on the Kakwa River)

Arctic Char ( Other than the ones that got loose In Lott Creek from Allans Trout farm they don't exist. It was thought at one time the fish in Chester Lake were Arctic Char but they are in fact Northern Dolly Varden.

As for the Quebec Red Trout I forget what I discovered about them But I believe they are Northern Dollies, I will look into my research file again to figure that on out.

Tiger Trout (Have not heard of any place that they exist)

Steelhead (Well that one is interesting but if in fact as reported that the Rainbow in the Bow originated from wild Steelhead strains in BC I guess I caught those too) But to me they are'nt Steelhead unless they run to the Ocean)

Splake (perhaps I have caught those in Minniwanka,but not 100% sure about that one)Brought one to the Creel survey station at Minni that they said was a splake.

Just My thoughts

Alex Kreis

I think you are bang on Alex except Atlantic salmon were stocked in the '60s and I think Quebec red trout are the real deal. If memory serves correctly, they are a a variety of Arctic char.

Alex K · #24 03-23-2010, 01:33 PM

I meant early 60's for Atlantics and other species in Minniwanka

#25 03-23-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex K

I meant early 60's for Atlantics and other species in Minniwanka

LOL...the first stocking dates back to 1915 though.

crazyfish · #26 03-23-2010, 01:41 PM

I came up with the thought this weekend while looking over some old regs, that included the map and species on it . Some of the stuff we found cleaning up some files and boxes after my dad had passed away. The idea was just that an idea. We looked over all the fish and she comented that i had caught all but 2 or 3. She said cool lets get those and then start again. Make of it what you like. The list was just the sportfish, if you want to split hairs and add every variant thats your choice, but it was more of a fun thought for the summer, or try a crazy week, or as suggested a month. Make it what you like and enjoy, but trying new species and areas is usually fun . So enjoy it for what it's worth and have fun !

McLeod · #27 03-23-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

I think you are bang on Alex except Atlantic salmon were stocked in the '60s and I think Quebec red trout are the real deal. If memory serves correctly, they are a a variety of Arctic char.

There are Quebec Red Trout in Alberta today..Fact... they are there OWN
sub species... Yes related to Arctic Char..

There are Splake in Alberta today ..Fact..

Atlantic Salmon were also stocked in Jasper National Park in the sixties
none left..

#28 03-23-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by McLeod

There are Quebec Red Trout in Alberta today..Fact... they are there OWN
sub species... Yes related to Arctic Char..

There are Splake in Alberta today ..Fact..

Atlantic Salmon were also stocked in Jasper National Park in the sixties
none left..

Coho and kokanee were also stocked in Alberta at one time.

Just curious where splake still exist.

the holster · #29 03-23-2010, 03:42 PM

Lake Agnes, a beautiful alpine lake in a hanging valley above Lake Louise. It is illegal to fish for these.
the holster

McLeod · #30 03-23-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the holster

Lake Agnes, a beautiful alpine lake in a hanging valley above Lake Louise. It is illegal to fish for these.
the holster

Again I don't see the logic especially wehn a gfew years ago parks was erady to poison every lake to eliminate exotics