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The incident, was in Mexico the party’s involved were from Texas , a Alberta b&c buck on a Mexico deer 😂
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12-01-2018, 06:48 PM
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20,000$ hunt in 1983??? Yikes
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12-09-2018, 06:41 PM
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Sounds like old Lloyd got elected to a apos director's position , the people I know aren't too thrilled about it
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12-09-2018, 07:16 PM
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Sounds like old Lloyd got elected to a apos director's position , the people I know aren't too thrilled about it
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If people aren’t thrilled then why did they elect him in to the position?
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12-09-2018, 08:08 PM
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12-09-2018, 08:14 PM
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Sounds like old Lloyd got elected to a apos director's position , the people I know aren't too thrilled about it
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Did those people show up to vote? Did any of them run against him? In any case, it appears that APOS doesn't have any integrity at all, to allow a convicted poacher/criminal to run for the position.
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12-09-2018, 08:23 PM
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What little integrity APOS had they have completely lost allowing scum of the Earth to even be a member never mind in an elected position.
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12-10-2018, 06:53 AM
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What little integrity APOS had they have completely lost allowing scum of the Earth to even be a member never mind in an elected position.
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Sounds like parliament .. 
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12-10-2018, 06:59 AM
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In that no qualifications are required to run for a position, very much so.
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12-10-2018, 07:47 AM
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Did those people show up to vote? Did any of them run against him? In any case, it appears that APOS doesn't have any integrity at all, to allow a convicted poacher/criminal to run for the position.
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Yes and yes
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12-10-2018, 07:50 AM
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Yes and yes
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It sounds like they needed to convince more people to vote, to prevent him from being elected by the larger corrupt element of the organization.
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12-10-2018, 09:59 AM
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APOS has become so corrupt internally that many of the honest outfitters try to avoid any dealings with them as much as possible.
There are three VERY disturbing facts that this election has brought to light:
The fact that the person in question is still allowed to guide & outfit and be a member of APOS is apalling in itself.
The fact that APOS allowed this person to even run for a seat is mind boggling.
The fact that apparently enough outfitters actually voted for this person is proof positive that some big changes need to be made. (Assuming nothing was tampered with...which knowing the individual in question and APOS’ track record of dishonesty and corruption is definitely not an unreasonable suspicion)
Several outfitters complained to the managing director. She adamantly “stuck up” for this person and defended his “right” 🙄 to both be a member and to run for any elected position he would like.
I don’t know what the best solution to this problem is. But something needs to be done sooner than later.
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12-10-2018, 10:13 AM
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"Professional Trophy Hunting organization Hires Major Poacher to Guide them."
How do you kill a Vampire? A simple article in any major newspaper highlighting APOS electing a chronic poacher to their Board would be enough sunlight for changes to be made.
It's "Funny" how a recent APOS president was removed for wildlife act convictions yet McMahon gets a seat.
I hope all realize that this is Not just an Outfitter issue. APOS has a role in representing hunting in general. This is a black eye to all of us. We shouldn't take the punch without hitting back.
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12-10-2018, 10:24 AM
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"Professional Trophy Hunting organization Hires Major Poacher to Guide them."
How do you kill a Vampire? A simple article in any major newspaper highlighting APOS electing a chronic poacher to their Board would be enough sunlight for changes to be made.
It's "Funny" how a recent APOS president was removed for wildlife act convictions yet McMahon gets a seat.
I hope all realize that this is Not just an Outfitter issue. APOS has a role in representing hunting in general. This is a black eye to all of us. We shouldn't take the punch without hitting back.
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Not to mention that APOS has input on the outfitter allocations. It's obvious from his many convictions that this person only has his own interests in mind.
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12-10-2018, 10:26 AM
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This is definitely an APOS issue. The majority of outfitters are honest people.
APOS needs to go.
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12-10-2018, 10:52 AM
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This is definitely an APOS issue. The majority of outfitters are honest people.
APOS needs to go.
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If this is indeed the case, how did he get elected. Is their voting process the problem?
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12-10-2018, 10:55 AM
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Are you guys being serious? Did LM get elected to a board position with APOS ?????
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12-10-2018, 11:01 AM
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Absolutely brutal. A new low for APOS.
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12-10-2018, 11:04 AM
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Has anyone got links for this story, I would like to forward it to my MLA.
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12-10-2018, 11:15 AM
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12-10-2018, 11:52 AM
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He was voted in!
That's how it works. No point crying about it on here.
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12-10-2018, 11:57 AM
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Oh what a brain dead move this one is !!! lol
In light of all the fighting over allocations lately you’d think they would ensure keeping a squeaky clean image moving forward would be paramount as they try hard to keep their industry viable. Lord only knows how they would let this happen.
I’d like to hope old Lloyd has changed his ways for the better, things were done a lot differently 35 years ago and he certainly wasn’t the only outlaw running around this province or western Canada for that matter. I would think some of the stories out there would make us shutter today if we knew the whole truth lol
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12-10-2018, 12:16 PM
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if there is any truth to this, it is certainly a kick in the guts to all.
there are good outfitters in APOS,but obviously there are not as many as the ones with no ethics.one has to wonder about the directors of fish & wildlife that keep on letting the foxes run the hen house.
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12-10-2018, 02:14 PM
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No somewhere where it states he was made president.
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12-10-2018, 02:14 PM
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He is not president he just got voted in as a director
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12-10-2018, 02:59 PM
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I think that was last year's
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Thats like a pedophile being a director of a dayhome.
Makes sense to me. LOL
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12-10-2018, 03:04 PM
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Thats like a pedophile being a director of a dayhome.
Makes sense to me. LOL
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Pretty much the same thing.
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12-10-2018, 03:15 PM
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Tyler is not Lloyd's son. Pete McMahon, who was Lloyd's brother, was Tyler's dad. Pete was a really good guy, hard to believe they were bothers.
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