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01-30-2015, 02:20 PM
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I found a bag of deer marked '09 in the freezer the other day and it tasted fine, Vacuum sealers are a great investment. I was hoping it wasn't freezer burnt because my dogs get terrible farts from deer meat but freezer burn is the only time they get it. 2 years shouldn't be an issue.
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01-30-2015, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Robmcleod82
Trichinosis - To prevent possible trichinosis, a parasitic infection, bear and cougar meat should be thoroughly cooked before it is consumed by humans or pets.
Funny doesnt seem like F&W care if it gets eaten by pets?
Somebody giving away meat is not wasting it.
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they better be ok with it. my dogs don't get good meat but they get all the blood shot meat and trimmings they couldn't be happier with that
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01-30-2015, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
The ad is potentiality concerning, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions before knowing more.
What bothers me a lot is how many people here have jumped on the OP's bandwagon to assume this person is doing/did something wrong. The information provided is too weak for any valid judgement to be made.
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^^ Very true WB. Assumptions are being made but if I was a betting man (oh wait I am lol) I'd wager that the meat is being given away without even bothering to try and eat it.
BTW I hate people that don't eat what they shoot. I passed on shooting a deer two years ago because my freezer had enough sausage to last another year. My family loves the smokies and sausage as do I but I enjjoy huntng and don't feel bad if I don't kill something every year.
Also my dogs love wild meat and while I wouldn't hunt just to feed them I don't consider feeding my dogs "wasting meat" either, I'd just rather eat it than give it to them. Although I do share when butchering my game.
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01-30-2015, 05:38 PM
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I don't believe giving meat to your dogs is illegal nor should it be.
This could be the case that a first time hunter discovered he didn't like the meat .....instead of just throwing it away he is trying to find a better place for it than the dumpster.
Could you post the link Lefty I know my parents would take meat for their dogs.
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01-30-2015, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_W
I don't believe giving meat to your dogs is illegal nor should it be.
This could be the case that a first time hunter discovered he didn't like the meat .....instead of just throwing it away he is trying to find a better place for it than the dumpster.
Could you post the link Lefty I know my parents would take meat for their dogs.
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It's gone.
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Lol...not trying to organize a lunch mob
Just asking opinions....said it "bothered me" what bandwagon is that?
My issue is further reading the thread the meat was offered as dog food....a question of condition was asked, the person replied they don't know they didn't unwrap it to check....why assume it is no good and only fit for dog food after not checking?
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You did well for not intending too. Lol...
Maybe the meat is still good for people to eat. The comments didn't say it wasn't nor did it say if the meat perhaps spoiled to some degree. Many of us have had that horrible experience of an unfrozen freezer. There is just so many unknowns and possibilities here that I don't get it why people would jump to conclusions.
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^^ Very true WB. Assumptions are being made but if I was a betting man (oh wait I am lol) I'd wager that the meat is being given away without even bothering to try and eat it.
BTW I hate people that don't eat what they shoot. I passed on shooting a deer two years ago because my freezer had enough sausage to last another year. My family loves the smokies and sausage as do I but I enjjoy huntng and don't feel bad if I don't kill something every year.
Also my dogs love wild meat and while I wouldn't hunt just to feed them I don't consider feeding my dogs "wasting meat" either, I'd just rather eat it than give it to them. Although I do share when butchering my game.
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Aren't you assuming that the meat was hunted or that the person advertising is a hunter?
Maybe this was roadkill picked up specifically for dog food?
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01-30-2015, 07:54 PM
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You were assuming that I was talking about the face book poster but I was actually just commenting on hunters in general.
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01-31-2015, 12:44 AM
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Hey do you mind sending me a picture of your .22, just wondering how much would you be looking to get for it (i have no idea what the older .22 guns price are, just newer one
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01-31-2015, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
The ad is potentiality concerning, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions before knowing more.
What bothers me a lot is how many people here have jumped on the OP's bandwagon to assume this person is doing/did something wrong. The information provided is too weak for any valid judgement to be made.
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Agreed. Potentially concerning. Sure, a lot are assuming. I say report it to F&W. It's their job to do the investigating so we don't have to do the assuming.
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01-31-2015, 02:14 AM
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Probably a post from the first round of natives on the base and needs more room for February
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01-31-2015, 02:53 AM
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Not a lot of fellas are getting what's really happening out there I was an 11 year priority shot a spike in front of 8 sask native trucks and when done they carried on 3 trucks shoot 5 trucks pick up the **** something to see really like a buffalo jump with 8 trucks instead of horses and barb wire instead of a hill When you want to see it just book a time with the base cause I called FandW and all they can tell me is that it's their god given right since 1877 Indians shoot over their mirrors but so do white guys 11 year tag and no one gives a **** I'm turning my sons and daughter towards bowling that's how ****ed up I am about hunting in this province any more sell all my **** ( which is in the tens of thousands) buy a boat and fish the walleye trail. Haven't seen a native pull the card on the trail Yet. Just my two ****s. Believe it or not but we have lost our own province
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01-31-2015, 05:21 AM
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I had a friend who had much wild meat in his freezer in his garage. His freezer quit on him. by the time he discovered it, wow what a stench! made us gag and eyes water cleaning it out.
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01-31-2015, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CanuckShooter
It's not going to waste if someone claims it. Really one of you guys should try and get hold of that awesome sausage making material.
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
Never a good thing to waste meat.
On the other hand, atleast they are making an effort to put it to use instead of just trashing it.
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True, we all have had this happen, better off not to waste it but I try and usually do have all the meat eaten before September.
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01-31-2015, 08:02 AM
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waste
I bottle 1/2 or more of my deer and make sausage and keep the chops for frying usually waste nothing.
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01-31-2015, 08:15 AM
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Every year at this time hunting partners and me clean out the freezers and use the older wild meat for sausage. An awesome yearly event. Every now and then the old lab gets a treat of wild game as well. Hunters have been feeding dogs wild game for as long as I am remember.
Rumor has it that Many years ago a fellow in lethbridge shot a deer just to use for dog food. His neighbours saw him feeding the meat and carcass to the dogs and turned him into f&w. Went to court and the judge determined that it was his right to feed the deer meat to his dogs if wanted to.
If anyone is good at researching and is bored this should be available as public record.
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01-31-2015, 09:06 AM
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Saw this on facebook today....it bothers me, thoughts?
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NO it doesn't bother me.... cause its none my business
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01-31-2015, 09:20 AM
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That's a lot of wasted effort. I don't waste meat because I remember how difficult it was to get it to my freezer. Old meat belongs in a crock pot.
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01-31-2015, 09:35 AM
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I had a friend who had much wild meat in his freezer in his garage. His freezer quit on him. by the time he discovered it, wow what a stench! made us gag and eyes water cleaning it out.
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I know that smell! An immigrant Chinese plumber burned down the building I lived in on January 19, 2012. I had a 10 cubic foot freezer in my place full of moose, mule deer, whitetail, halibut, cod and salmon.
19 dayS later the salvage people took out my freezer, which had been sitting there without power and everything was rotten, and man did that stink. I had to put vicks rub under my nostrils when I finally was allowed back into the building to salvage my stuff, which turned out to be a waste of time as everything was a total loss! Man did that SUCK THE BIG ONE!
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01-31-2015, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Prairiewolf
Could meat like this possibly be donated to a shelter or non-profit, like the Mustard Seed here in Calgary? I wonder since its probably not inspected that this may be an issue.
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Used to be able to donate or give away wild meat, not very long ago. Now it is illegal to give a steak away to a neighbor, even though it suggests sharing the kill with landowners in the new hunter's ed. books.
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Originally Posted by davesilva
Yes this bothers me hunting is becomming a trend city idiots in their sweat pants wearing Camo shooting deer and not even eating it if I didn't like the taste of deer I wouldn't even bother
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Always good for more people to be involved in hunting, shooting and conservation. Could have been an idiot from anywhere... even a ranch.
I wouldn't fault anyone that tried it once and decided it was not for them. Possibly why it's up for grabs now.
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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Respectfully...bear and cougar meat is handled differently than other big game meat, first off it can be wasted...post the regulations for other game meat.
Read the post, "freezer full of deer meat, 2 years old, good for dog food". Without checking if its good for human food.....that's what I have issues with, nothing comedic about it IMHO.
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As stated above, maybe it's not their bag. Shot one, tried it, and couldn't hack it. Did not know what to do with it, so it sat.
And there may be different rules for consuming (or lack thereof) bear and cougar, but that doesn't mean it's not good either. Bear, cougar, rabbit, lynx, squirrel are all tasty IMO. I hear coyote, gophers and crow is edible as well. And I may have eaten the latter a time or two...
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Hey do you mind sending me a picture of your .22, just wondering how much would you be looking to get for it (i have no idea what the older .22 guns price are, just newer one
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Originally Posted by mossyfoot
Not a lot of fellas are getting what's really happening out there I was an 11 year priority shot a spike in front of 8 sask native trucks and when done they carried on 3 trucks shoot 5 trucks pick up the **** something to see really like a buffalo jump with 8 trucks instead of horses and barb wire instead of a hill When you want to see it just book a time with the base cause I called FandW and all they can tell me is that it's their god given right since 1877 Indians shoot over their mirrors but so do white guys 11 year tag and no one gives a **** I'm turning my sons and daughter towards bowling that's how ****ed up I am about hunting in this province any more sell all my **** ( which is in the tens of thousands) buy a boat and fish the walleye trail. Haven't seen a native pull the card on the trail Yet. Just my two ****s. Believe it or not but we have lost our own province
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And now the regularly scheduled derailments, and mis-posts! It's all good!
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And I guess it's a shame if the dog ends up eating it, but I'm not sure that I would want to eat some random person's kill myself to begin with.
We started our dog on raw, and that stuff would be perfectly edible by any human. Maybe not as appetizing due to the way it's processed. Though I guess the same could be said for the other stuff as well.
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Saw this on facebook today....it bothers me, thoughts?
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yes, my guess is trophy hunter who really doesn't have a good grasp on how to use the meat.
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yes, my guess is trophy hunter who really doesn't have a good grasp on how to use the meat.
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It is a problem with the chest style deep freezer , my buddy bought a stand up for that reason. I ve got a couple roasts left from 2012, still good though. We did loose some goose breasts from freezer burn a couple years ago. It ticks you off when you don't catch but they got burried.
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01-31-2015, 09:48 PM
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Hi lefty.
I wonder if the same sentiment would be if the add said " game farm deer to give away"
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Originally Posted by Tactical Lever
Used to be able to donate or give away wild meat, not very long ago. Now it is illegal to give a steak away to a neighbor, even though it suggests sharing the kill with landowners in the new hunter's ed. books.
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Is this true? You can no longer gift wild game meat?
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02-01-2015, 10:24 AM
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Is this true? You can no longer gift wild game meat?
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I'm pretty sure that you can still give away wild meat.
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It's really too bad, some people just enjoy killing the animal, and don't want to put in the effort to do anything else, including eat it. If your not into it for the meat, don't bother.
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Nobody really knows the circumstances for that Facebook post.
I would have taken it, nobody needs to know why I'd want it too.
If anyone in Edm area is cleaning out their freezer with any old stuff, wild or not, I'll come a pick it up.
I won't need to know why you dont want it, or how old it is.
And nobody need to know what I'll be doing with it. That just creates senseless post discussion.
PM me.
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It's really too bad, some people just enjoy killing the animal, and don't want to put in the effort to do anything else, including eat it. If your not into it for the meat, don't bother.
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