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I have a step daughter visiting and she has a problem with alcohol,my wife wants to give her the use of one of our vehicles,which is against my wishes because of the consequences that may arise,accidents and insurance,she has had 2 accidents in several years and a DUI,what would be your approach?Thanks
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07-26-2017, 12:36 AM
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my wife wants to give her the use of one of our vehicles,
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Are you expecting friction if you protest what the wife wants? Weigh out the pros and cons of you resisting her wishes, then decide.
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07-26-2017, 12:41 AM
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The best thing to do IMO is to call your insurance agent and see what it would take to put her on your insurance as occasional driver. If the girl can afford the 500 a month or more, let her pay for it. Your insurer may advise against insuring such a driver too.
Had sort of a situation where my elderly mother was letting her 85 year old friend/neighbor drive her car. I learned that if he had an accident she could have lost everything unless he was down as an occasional driver. My concern was he was quite deaf and had poor eyesight which is just as bad as an impaired driver. He no longer drives my mothers car.
The key is for everyone to put emotions aside and look at the situation objectively and logically. Estates can be lost.
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The best thing to do IMO is to call your insurance agent and see what it would take to put her on your insurance as occasional driver. If the girl can afford the 500 a month or more, let her pay for it. Your insurer may advise against insuring such a driver too.
Had sort of a situation where my elderly mother was letting her 85 year old friend/neighbor drive her car. I learned that if he had an accident she could have lost everything unless he was down as an occasional driver. My concern was he was quite deaf and had poor eyesight which is just as bad as an impaired driver. He no longer drives my mothers car.
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This-Let the insurance company be the bad guy
Otherwise make sure she only has use of your Wife's vehicle 
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07-26-2017, 12:46 AM
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No, your handing her the weapon now she goes out to buy the bullets, you know there is a problem, so no to the vehicles.
Your worried about accidents...she is going to kill someone.
No.
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07-26-2017, 12:55 AM
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nope, nope, nope, nope...........................
Not sure how it could be construed as a good idea.
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07-26-2017, 06:47 AM
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Buy her a bus pass.
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07-26-2017, 07:40 AM
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Not a chance, she can use Uber. This is almost a no brainer.
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07-26-2017, 07:41 AM
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So lets see, she is drunk and kills someone in your car. Even if she is covered on your insurance, they will refuse to pay or sues you and your daughter for recovery. You loose everything you own paying off the civil suit. Other possibility, your wife gets really ****ed off and divorces you. You loose half of what you own. I like half better, personally. Choice however is yours.
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07-26-2017, 08:17 AM
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Excellent analogy Dean,
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07-26-2017, 09:40 AM
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How long is she visiting? If it is a couple of days that is one thing but if it is for 18 months that is another.
Couple of days - she rents a car or pays for taxis
Months - Let her buy a beater and insurance (you can help her with the finances). Even then you should be setting rules or guidelines about her use of it.
Would you hand over the keys to your car to your own kid if s/he has a drinking and driving problem?
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Give a drunk access to a vehicle??? HELL NO. Stupid got herself in trouble, it's her own problem. She can walk or peddle.
Tell the wife this is absolutely unacceptable and grounds for a divorce if she proceeds. Dean highlighted the potential consequences. Half is better than none.
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07-26-2017, 10:53 AM
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Send her to AA
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07-26-2017, 10:54 AM
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Zero chance. A job pays for insurance and a vehicle, she needs all 3.
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If she's an adult she can rent a car herself, but based on her history she's probably better off taking a cab or a bicycle. Don't let yourself be the enabler that suffers consequences of her actions.
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07-26-2017, 11:13 AM
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You had me til DUI.. That's a hard NOPE.
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07-26-2017, 10:58 AM
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How long is she visiting? If it is a couple of days that is one thing but if it is for 18 months that is another.
Couple of days - she rents a car or pays for taxis
Months - Let her buy a beater and insurance (you can help her with the finances). Even then you should be setting rules or guidelines about her use of it.
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^ I would go with this option.
She made the mistake of driving under the influence andgetting a DUI, she needs to deal with the consequences. You are still being accommodating without putting yourself at risk.
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07-26-2017, 11:17 AM
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I have a step daughter visiting and she has a problem with alcohol,my wife wants to give her the use of one of our vehicles,which is against my wishes because of the consequences that may arise,accidents and insurance,she has had 2 accidents in several years and a DUI,what would be your approach?Thanks
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Is she in AA, sober? If the answer is no, then so should be yours! I sure wouldn't lend my vehicle to a drunk! (Even though I used to be one)
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07-26-2017, 12:26 PM
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no way!
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07-26-2017, 12:44 PM
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Thanks guys for the opinions,yes to say the least its an awful lot of worry for me so no will have to be my answer,and like someone suggested Get her to rent a car and insure it and I'll pay the bill,at least that way if she has an accident I won't end up being sued.
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07-26-2017, 12:54 PM
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Get her to rent a car and insure it and I'll pay the bill,.
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Just make sure you give HER the money and not the rental car company. You don't want your name and credit card legally associated with the rental.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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07-26-2017, 01:04 PM
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Just make sure you give HER the money and not the rental car company. You don't want your name and credit card legally associated with the rental.
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Thanks again
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07-26-2017, 01:27 PM
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07-27-2017, 07:02 AM
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Thanks guys for the opinions,yes to say the least its an awful lot of worry for me so no will have to be my answer,and like someone suggested Get her to rent a car and insure it and I'll pay the bill,at least that way if she has an accident I won't end up being sued.
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I wouldn't give this individual anything other then a hello, how's it going...she is an adult and can figure it out, we all have...you want something, work for it.
You won't live with yourself if you have any part of her behind the wheel and she kills someone....just saying...wife should understand that or well you sleep alone for a little while...small price to pay for being right!
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07-27-2017, 12:53 PM
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No..........buy a cheap saddle and she can ride the chrome cow around edmonton
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07-26-2017, 08:53 PM
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I have a step daughter visiting and she has a problem with alcohol,my wife wants to give her the use of one of our vehicles,which is against my wishes because of the consequences that may arise,accidents and insurance,she has had 2 accidents in several years and a DUI,what would be your approach?Thanks
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No !!!
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If I ever knowingly enabled someone to harm someone else it would be very hard for me to ever live with myself.
If shes had that many flags for her problem and she still drinks....I wouldn't lend her a skateboard.
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08-25-2017, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
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I have a step daughter visiting and she has a problem with alcohol,my wife wants to give her the use of one of our vehicles,which is against my wishes because of the consequences that may arise,accidents and insurance,she has had 2 accidents in several years and a DUI,what would be your approach?Thanks
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You asked for advice, it would at least seem fair to let us know what you ended up doing. So tell us how it ended. Did you stand firm and do what you know is right, or?
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08-25-2017, 03:08 PM
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Not sure if some people here realize this but you can get a DUI riding a bicycle. After all if you are riding on the road you are consider a vehicle and must obey all traffic laws. Sidewalk/bike path and walking it through crosswalks and you might be ok.
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08-25-2017, 03:11 PM
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Does she not have Car2Go? I'd get her registered with them and remove the liability all together.
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