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Originally Posted by antlercarver
Depends on the person, not the gun. If you can not handle much recoil then shooting a larger calibre may cause more animals being wounded than a more confident shot from a light recoil like the .243
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Exactly, great point.
OP pay attention to this.
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04-13-2016, 01:12 AM
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The .243 is a wonderful rifle, certainly great for deer, antelope or sheep, but I would have no hesitation using it for moose, elk or bear.
Go to the range, get to know your gun well, and then learn to shoot it well. I've never really understood the reason for heavy artillery that some use, outside of some African animals.
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04-13-2016, 06:42 AM
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243 is a great deer rifle. For the first 3 years I had mine, all I used was Winchester super x 100 gr. They did the job just fine out to 400 yards. Nothing has ever run from it to need a blood trail yet. Even the moose I shot with it last fall only went a few yards. (100 gr sierra gameking handload.)
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04-13-2016, 06:45 AM
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243 is a great deer rifle. For the first 3 years I had mine, all I used was Winchester super x 100 gr. They did the job just fine out to 400 yards. Nothing has ever run from it to need a blood trail yet. Even the moose I shot with it last fall only went a few yards. (100 gr sierra gameking handload.)
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Shhhhh don't say moose here
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04-13-2016, 06:51 AM
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Shhhhh don't say moose here
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Oh crap.
LOL
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04-13-2016, 06:56 AM
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Shhhhh don't say moose here
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And in the same sentence as a Seirra cup and core!!
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04-13-2016, 07:20 AM
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What would all us "retards" know? Listen to the one that knows it all I guess?
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Not quite sure what you mean by that. Was just commenting on his success.
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04-13-2016, 07:23 AM
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Not quite sure what you mean by that. Was just commenting on his success.
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Sorry about that. Was just commenting on his belief that anyone who doesn't subscribe to his opinion is obviously a "retard." Have to wonder about the upbringing of some folk.....
Have a great day.
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04-13-2016, 08:01 AM
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No worries bud.
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04-13-2016, 11:24 AM
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Well after a trip to the stomping ground today I've got my ranges figured for fusion 95gr from moa at 100 out to 12x12 steel at 500. I must say I'm surprised at the long range accuracy of this caliber. I'll probably never hunt a moose with it but deer for sure.
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04-13-2016, 11:28 AM
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Well after a trip to the stomping ground today I've got my ranges figured for fusion 95gr from moa at 100 out to 12x12 steel at 500. I must say I'm surprised at the long range accuracy of this caliber. I'll probably never hunt a moose with it but deer for sure.
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I am just curious as to why would you be surprised that you can hit a 12"x12" steel plate at 500. Did you expect it to be less accurate than say a 270win, or a 30-06?
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I knew my elevation was on but I was expecting the wind to play a bit more on a 95gr at that range but the rounds were within 6 in of eachother
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04-13-2016, 03:57 PM
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And in the same sentence as a Seirra cup and core!!
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I was skeptical of them at first, but was very impressed buy accuracy and the wound channel. I'm usually an accubond guy.
Maybe I should just observe this post from now on before I get any more flack.
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04-13-2016, 04:45 PM
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I was skeptical of them at first, but was very impressed buy accuracy and the wound channel. I'm usually an accubond guy.
Maybe I should just observe this post from now on before I get any more flack.
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And the 90gr Accubond is also a great choice for a .243" hunting bullet.
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04-13-2016, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by avb3
The .243 is a wonderful rifle, certainly great for deer, antelope or sheep, but I would have no hesitation using it for moose, elk or bear.
Go to the range, get to know your gun well, and then learn to shoot it well. I've never really understood the reason for heavy artillery that some use, outside of some African animals.
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243 is not a rifle,,,,, a remington 700 is a rifle
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04-13-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tracker34
243 is a great deer rifle. For the first 3 years I had mine, all I used was Winchester super x 100 gr. They did the job just fine out to 400 yards. Nothing has ever run from it to need a blood trail yet. Even the moose I shot with it last fall only went a few yards. (100 gr sierra gameking handload.)
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A 243 is not a rifle, a browning xbolt is a rifle
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04-13-2016, 07:04 PM
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And the 90gr Accubond is also a great choice for a .243" hunting bullet.
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I'll have to get a box and load some up. My wife loves it when I but more hunting/shooting stuff.
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04-13-2016, 07:07 PM
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I have read this sort of thing , many times on AO , that being that , ... with proper " shot placement " , just about anything will kill anything .
I , personally , have to question this kind of thinking .
But what about ... just off a little/lot " shot placement " ... for whatever reason ?
For all the experienced hunters out there , I would assume it's fair to say that not every single shot that you have fired at a animal , has hit " exactly " where you intended it to hit , whether it deflected off a small branch , more cross wind than you thought , too fast/excited , target moved , whatever ...
Hence , not getting the proper " shot placement " .
Oh , it may and in most cases , probably still did the job , but I have to say , ( in my limited experience ) I can't image that anybody would actually trust that a " .243 " would be what one would take for a Moose hunt , I would even question , Elk hunt .
For those of you who are going to jump on me for this , ( cause you have shot plenty of big, Big game with a .243 ) , I'm not saying it can't/hasn't been done , I just saying that I don't see it as an " eithicial caliber to recommend for something as big as a Moose or perhaps Elk .
Oh , and 58thecat, I'm not pointing specifically at you , it simply was that your post was easy to quote .
.... My thoughts , maybe not yours ...
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I don't have limited experience and your bang on,,,,,,
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04-13-2016, 07:15 PM
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I have used a 243 mostly for coyote, fox, and rabbits on the snow, but no problems for deer with a 100gr bullet. My first rifle was a 6mm Rem so same caliber, but a bit more velocity. I used that "puny", "undergunned", "non-magnum" to harvest around 150+ whitetails, 40+ mulies, a moose, and a couple of elk. There's a pile of retards out there that will tell you a 300 magnum is a requirement for mule deer and larger, but the 243 would not be the most common starter rifle for North American big game if it were not up to the task.
If you want something a bit heavier but without the recoil, check out the 7-08 as it is very similar to the 243 in kick. Even a 270Win is mild as long as you have a solid stock and a quality recoil pad.
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Lol,,,,150 whitetail??????? Supplementel does only came out not that long ago. Either your 100 years old and started killing whitetail when you were one or you poached a lot. The "r" word can be used on your statement fer sure. Not only do I hate that cartridge for anything but dogs, I even dislike the normal statements people make to justify the useless thing. Ranted enough,, I'll wait till this crap comes up next week and I'll say it again then.
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04-13-2016, 07:41 PM
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Lol,,,,150 whitetail??????? Supplementel does only came out not that long ago. Either your 100 years old and started killing whitetail when you were one or you poached a lot. The "r" word can be used on your statement fer sure. Not only do I hate that cartridge for anything but dogs, I even dislike the normal statements people make to justify the useless thing. Ranted enough,, I'll wait till this crap comes up next week and I'll say it again then.
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You are assuming that everyone has only hunted in Alberta, which isn't true. Some people grew up hunting in provinces where party hunting was legal, and some of us have hunted in multiple provinces for 30 or 40 years. I have only killed about 60 whitetails, but if I chose to fill every license that I have held, I would have killed over 100 whitetails. And I never purchased many of the whitetail tags that I could have over the years.
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This year I've decided on .243 win for my deer rifle I've tried a few loads seems like this rifle will moa just about whatever I feed it. Im planning on factory loads and wondering if anyone has experience with clean kills, pass through, good blood trail etc
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Fine round for your plan. Get out and get too know your rifle and ammo and all will be well.
I have a Tikka T3 that just loves the Winchester 100gr.
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04-13-2016, 09:02 PM
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The .243 is capable of quite a bit. There are are other rounds that are far more capable of accomplishing heavier tasks. For deer hunting it is a fine round. For elk and moose, well like I said there are other rounds more capable. It just stands to reason.
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04-13-2016, 09:12 PM
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You are assuming that everyone has only hunted in Alberta, which isn't true. Some people grew up hunting in provinces where party hunting was legal, and some of us have hunted in multiple provinces for 30 or 40 years. I have only killed about 60 whitetails, but if I chose to fill every license that I have held, I would have killed over 100 whitetails. And I never purchased many of the whitetail tags that I could have over the years.
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Then edit your post to reflect that
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04-13-2016, 09:45 PM
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Then edit your post to reflect that
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I am not the one claiming to have killed 150 whitetails, but you are the one making assumptions.
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So those of you that don't think that a 90-100 gr bullet out of a 243win is adequate for a 250lb deer, would you consider a 130-150gr bullet out of a 270win adequate for a 1000lb moose?
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Absolutely a 130-150 270 can kill a moose again and again and absolutely a 243 with 90-100 gr is sufficiant for deer. A 243 might be the perfect deer cartridge. People need to learn how to shoot, and not just close their eyes and hold on.
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04-13-2016, 10:09 PM
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And in the same sentence as a Seirra cup and core!!
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Use proper weights and them sierra's will serve one well.
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04-14-2016, 01:28 AM
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Depends on the person, not the gun. If you can not handle much recoil then shooting a larger calibre may cause more animals being wounded than a more confident shot from a light recoil like the .243
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BINGO !
I’m a flincher so the 243 should instil more confidence and improve ability. Picked it up today. Tikka 243 supervarmint, Nightforce NXS 8x30x56. I have no idea how to use that scope yet… pretty stoked !!
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04-14-2016, 05:52 AM
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BINGO !
I’m a flincher so the 243 should instil more confidence and improve ability. Picked it up today. Tikka 243 supervarmint, Nightforce NXS 8x30x56. I have no idea how to use that scope yet… pretty stoked !!
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Beauty rifle for sure.
As for the scope thingy on top with all the knobs you put your eye close to the small end and ensure your hand is on the knob of choice...
Happy times are here again.!
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Let's see 100gr broad head out of a bow at say 330fps yep kills elk and moose all fall. 117 gr projectile at 3100 out of a 25 06 kills deer moose elk all day long. But a 100 gr .243 slug will only kill foxes coyotes and maybe a deer. Give me a break. Think a deers lung's notice the difference. A hole in the vitals is a hole in the vitals. Hell I have killed deer with lead round balls out of a hawkens. Maybe I should have used my belted magnum muzzle loader just to make sure..... just a heads up that was sarcasm.... I love the only a uber magnum kills animals but my bow smokes elk all day.....
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My son, at 14, shot and killed a 12 pt whitetail from 200 meters. It's an effective calibre, provided you place that bullet where it counts.
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