.243 capability

[avb3]

Originally Posted by husky7mm

Absolutely a 130-150 270 can kill a moose again and again and absolutely a 243 with 90-100 gr is sufficiant for deer. A 243 might be the perfect deer cartridge. People need to learn how to shoot, and not just close their eyes and hold on.

Exactly. People forget how many moose for killed 303.

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

I don't have limited experience and your bang on,,,,,,

[robfraser]

I have shot a lot of deer with a .243 but for big, tough deer at longer ranges you are better off with something bigger that you can shoot well.

[antlercarver]

Every one is posting I did this, I did that, which is meant to mean that it must be good for everyone. Well I fly a Piper Cub, why is everyone still driving their Dodge dully around.

[cfnewfie]

Alright guys no need to act butt hurt and call each other out. The post was meant to gain some knowledge about the calibers capabilities on game through experience not to not pick eachother

[BDAJ]

Originally Posted by cfnewfie

This year I've decided on .243 win for my deer rifle I've tried a few loads seems like this rifle will moa just about whatever I feed it. Im planning on factory loads and wondering if anyone has experience with clean kills, pass through, good blood trail etc

If you're testing out factory ammo, I would recommend Federal Vital Shok 95 gr Nosler Ballisitic Tip. And if you're out for Yotes, they also have a 55 gr that is a dream to shoot. But I would stick to the 95's for deer. Nosler Ballistic Tips have been a great bullet for me.

[cfnewfie]

I'll give them a shot as well thanks

[ram crazy]

Great cartridge, its fast and shoots flat. I know a few Elk, Antelope, Mulies and Whitetail that have been harvested with the old reliable .243win 100gr. Speer Boattail

[raised by wolves]

No exaggeration on my part. Lots of whitetail tags available in Alberta for many years now. Long before supplemental tags were given, some zones were awarding as many as 4 tags per draw. Combine that with general tags, and other specific WMU draws like Calgary and Edmonton, Wainwright, and out of province tags, my initial number may actually be a little low. Some years, depending on the tags, I have taken as many as 11 big game animals in one season, just here in Alberta. Do that for a few decades and the total count goes up. I know I am not the only person on the forum that has done so.

You can hate the 6mm as much as you wish, but it works.

[gtr]

The 243 Win is more capable than most people.

[JULIUS]

Too many variables in this discussion for me. Over the last fifty seasons I have shot several deer with the 243 and have seen moose taken with it. At the time it was all we had. Now I hunt deer mostly with my 25-06 and use a magnum for moose/Elk. I do still know some very good hunters who hunt with the 243 mostly for deer. It works great in the hands of a good hunter. I have also killed deer and elk with a muzzle loader and bow. Some times I think it is the hunting skill of the user matched to the weapon he chooses that is most important .
Some 243 users are very good and some magnum hunters are very good.
Hell just hunting is very good . Have a great day

[roper1]

The .243 debate reminds me of the 1/2 ton truck debate.

Pull a trailer heavy enough to be barely legal, barely safe, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong.

Shoot a .243 you are barely legal, barely ethical, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong, IMO

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by roper1

The .243 debate reminds me of the 1/2 ton truck debate.

Pull a trailer heavy enough to be barely legal, barely safe, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong.

Shoot a .243 you are barely legal, barely ethical, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong, IMO

Your awesome

[tkhiebs]

Get real roper1, 22lr is barley ethical.
I would use a 243 on anything.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Tracker34

I was skeptical of them at first, but was very impressed buy accuracy and the wound channel. I'm usually an accubond guy.
Maybe I should just observe this post from now on before I get any more flack.

The very funny thing about the whole danged thread is that the 243 has taken all of the deer family quite well since its inception , and Seirra bullets have as well !
Two cartridges in particular that I do not own and do not like are the 270 Winchester and the 243 Winchester , although I all be the first to admit that both are great cartridges .
They cannot be faulted except for personal predudice only .

As far as Seirra bullets go, they are in fact one of my favourite brands , right up there with Speer and C. I.L.!
When I aim them at something the bullets goes there accurately and the critter dies fast , one cannot ask for any more!
Cat

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by roper1

The .243 debate reminds me of the 1/2 ton truck debate.

Pull a trailer heavy enough to be barely legal, barely safe, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong.

Shoot a .243 you are barely legal, barely ethical, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong, IMO

You can also have no "wiggle room" with a Magnum caliber as well. Some peoples shooting skills is barely legal. Magnum rifle theory is almost like the little man syndrome. Learn to shoot a firearm well and you won't have any issues is what it comes down to.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by roper1

The .243 debate reminds me of the 1/2 ton truck debate.

Pull a trailer heavy enough to be barely legal, barely safe, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong.

Shoot a .243 you are barely legal, barely ethical, & no wiggle room if even the slightest thing goes wrong, IMO

i know far more people that would Benifit from going from a magnum to a 243 than the other way around and do not know a single person who can shoot s magnum better than a 243.
Cat

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by gtr

The 243 Win is more capable than most people.

Smartest post on any thread for a long time!

A slow long clap for your Sir!

[colroggal]

http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Know...inchester.html

He can be a little long-winded at times but he knows his stuff

Colin

[ForwardBias]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

i know far more people that would Benifit from going from a magnum to a 243 than the other way around and do not know a single person who can shoot s magnum better than a 243.
Cat

Aint that the truth.

[Popcan]

Originally Posted by colroggal

http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Know...inchester.html

He can be a little long-winded at times but he knows his stuff

Colin

Thanks for the link

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

i know far more people that would Benifit from going from a magnum to a 243 than the other way around and do not know a single person who can shoot s magnum better than a 243.
Cat

I can shoot a 22 better than a 300 win mag too, same with my 22-250, see my point

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm

I can shoot a 22 better than a 300 win mag too, same with my 22-250, see my point

The .22 rimfire has nothing to do with hunting big game and the 22/25o is not legal in Alberta to hunt big game with s your point is moot.
Cat

[Big Sky]

243win is an AO fan favourite. All discussions go to the same place.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Big Sky

243win is an AO fan favourite. All discussions go to the same place.

Not all of us like the 243!
I can and however give an unbiased opinion for the most part on these subjects and it is a undeniable fact that the 243 has accounted for tens of thousand of game animals since its inception, and is used by people in places where 50 animals in one season is a slow one.
Cat

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

The .22 rimfire has nothing to do with hunting big game and the 22/25o is not legal in Alberta to hunt big game with s your point is moot.
Cat

Not moot you just don't see the sarcasm is all

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Not all of us like the 243!
I can and however give an unbiased opinion for the most part on these subjects and it is a undeniable fact that the 243 has accounted for tens of thousand of game animals since its inception, and is used by people in places where 50 animals in one season is a slow one.
Cat

Ahhh cat your a closet 243 fan...it's ok to come out

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Ahhh cat your a closet 243 fan...it's ok to come out

Ain't gonna happen, nope , no way , nyat, nada!!
Cat

[roper1]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

i know far more people that would Benifit from going from a magnum to a 243 than the other way around and do not know a single person who can shoot s magnum better than a 243.
Cat

Hold up there!!!! When you jump from a 243 to a magnum you need to rethink this non-bias you're peddling. There is a shat-load of calibers in between!!! Even a 303 Brit, EH?

I didn't suggest the F150 driver should go buy a Kenworth when he piles it up, the implication was maybe a 3/4 ton might be an upgrade.

I think there is one heck of a lot more hunters proficient with a 30-06 than there is with a 243, and I think you would agree with me!!!!

[roper1]

Originally Posted by ram crazy

You can also have no "wiggle room" with a Magnum caliber as well. Some peoples shooting skills is barely legal. Magnum rifle theory is almost like the little man syndrome. Learn to shoot a firearm well and you won't have any issues is what it comes down to.

Yes I agree more shooting skill would serve the vast majority of hunters well. But the reality is most hunters only have so much time & cash for range time.

Why oh why is there no such thing as a maximum caliber??? Because the experienced hunters & wildlife biologists & fish cops that place minimum calibers know the hydraulic shock caused by the larger bullet will result in more animals retrieved, IMO.

FTR the vast majority of my game is shot with an '06, but I own & shoot .22 to 340 WBY

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by roper1

Hold up there!!!! When you jump from a 243 to a magnum you need to rethink this non-bias you're peddling. There is a shat-load of calibers in between!!! Even a 303 Brit, EH?

I didn't suggest the F150 driver should go buy a Kenworth when he piles it up, the implication was maybe a 3/4 ton might be an upgrade.

I think there is one heck of a lot more hunters proficient with a 30-06 than there is with a 243, and I think you would agree with me!!!!

A couple of others posted about magnums, , that is why I mentioned it.
Personally speaking I see n more reason for me t shoot a 243 than do a belted magnum, be it a 240 Weathrby or a 375 H&H, although I have , and some of them are a lot of fun.
Many of them are not needed however in the deer hunting World even though some put the big arguments up, but if a person wants to shoot one, fine.If he says they are needed to kill a deer, then the arguments ensue.
BTW , have been told several times ere and elsewhere that the 303 Brit is obsolete and no good - and there was no sarcasm, the people were serous about it!
Cat