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04-16-2016, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by roper1
I think there is one heck of a lot more hunters proficient with a 30-06 than there is with a 243, and I think you would agree with me!!!!
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If they are improficient with a 243 and can't hit anything with it, they will shoot even worse with a harder recoiling 30-06 and wound even more game with it. If your hitting around the edges a bigger gun doesn't help.
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04-16-2016, 10:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushrat
If they are improficient with a 243 and can't hit anything with it, they will shoot even worse with a harder recoiling 30-06 and wound even more game with it. If your hitting around the edges a bigger gun doesn't help.
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You missed the implication, there are so many more hunters using the '06, there are a lot more deer taken with it.
As far as hitting around the edges, the other side of that is guys that are sub-moa with a 243 aren't going to be off-paper with an '06
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04-17-2016, 01:36 AM
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6 moose, 1 caribou, 2 bears, 1 mule buck with .243
Zero lost animals, all but 2 iirc were one shot kills.
2 moose with the good ol 30-30 as well and 1 bear.
Im no proponent of the 243, but certainly no opponent either.
Excellent rifle for any Deer alberta has to offer.
Would I take it on a P7 mule deer hunt?
Prob not, id want as much bang for the buck as I can handle on a trophy hunt.
If primary purpose of the hunt is Food, give er.
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04-17-2016, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cfnewfie
This year I've decided on .243 win for my deer rifle I've tried a few loads seems like this rifle will moa just about whatever I feed it. Im planning on factory loads and wondering if anyone has experience with clean kills, pass through, good blood trail etc
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Meh. Barely adequate for gophers IMO
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04-17-2016, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wolf308
Meh. Barely adequate for gophers IMO
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You must have some mighty big gophers around there. Must be over a thousand pounds if a 243 is barely adequate for them
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04-17-2016, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1886
You must have some mighty big gophers around there. Must be over a thousand pounds if a 243 is barely adequate for them
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04-17-2016, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
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And that us only a squill!
Think of the damage a rogue bull gopher can do!
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04-17-2016, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
rogue bull gopher
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I just got goosebumps and a terror tremor...
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04-17-2016, 03:43 PM
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The media would define the .243 as "A high powered rifle".
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04-17-2016, 07:18 PM
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04-17-2016, 09:14 PM
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243 win is kinda ok but it's no 6mm rem
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06-25-2016, 10:53 PM
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I know people who can't kill a moose with a 338.
Its all about shot placement.
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06-25-2016, 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travco1
I know people who can't kill a moose with a 338.
Its all about shot placement.
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Of course it is, everyone who uses a 243 says that, on every thread every time all day long.
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06-26-2016, 08:56 AM
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Quick math
150. White tail
If you are in your early 40s. 30 years of hunting. Never missed a season
That's 5 deer every year for 30 years
Please explain ???
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06-26-2016, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForwardBias
The 243 is made for deer hunting.
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It's made for hunting!!! i like the mentality of people, the bigger the caliber the bigger the animal you will kill. Even with the big calibers if you pull a shot (more like flinch) while shooting at an animal it could lead to a wounded animal. If you learn to shoot a smaller caliber better you will kill just as many bigger animals. Most people don't shoot enough to have the confidence to shoot well so it's easier to say the bigger caliber is the way to go. I have seen lots of animals run around wounded with big calibers as well.
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06-26-2016, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ram crazy
It's made for hunting!!! i like the mentality of people, the bigger the caliber the bigger the animal you will kill. Even with the big calibers if you pull a shot (more like flinch) while shooting at an animal it could lead to a wounded animal. If you learn to shoot a smaller caliber better you will kill just as many bigger animals. Most people don't shoot enough to have the confidence to shoot well so it's easier to say the bigger caliber is the way to go. I have seen lots of animals run around wounded with big calibers as well.
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I like the mentality of people the smaller the caliber means your a better shot. A bigger caliber within reason, 308, 30-06, 303. Will not effect a person more than an inch or two, still well with in the kill zone. Now, I know you guys with the 243 are soooo good there is no chance your perfect shot mentality would ever allow you to miss that perfect area but if you did, heaven forbid, that animal is gone. Now if you miss that perfect spot with a larger caliber then the wound channel is much larger, causing more damage and more blood, thus more trail and a faster bleed out and higher chance they bed down sooner. If your a little person, a boy or a women that's small and that's all you can shoot then have someone back up the shot or get some reloads for a 308 that are backed off a bit or take up soccer!
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06-26-2016, 10:25 AM
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Oh my a squabble....
The 243 win is capeable, the 338 win mag is capeable, unfortunately people are not capeable.
Seen shooters of mighty boom sticks very good at taking game, also shooters of little boom sticks too.
Know your rifle, practice, enjoy the hunt and your freezer will be filled every season.
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06-26-2016, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nikanit
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Beauty elk!
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06-26-2016, 03:48 PM
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I've taken down about 5 white tails, 1 mule deer and a black bear and a bunch of coyote win my .243 win clean kills all about knowing how far you can acuraletly shoot and it's all about shot placement of course
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06-26-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm
I like the mentality of people the smaller the caliber means your a better shot. A bigger caliber within reason, 308, 30-06, 303. Will not effect a person more than an inch or two, still well with in the kill zone. Now, I know you guys with the 243 are soooo good there is no chance your perfect shot mentality would ever allow you to miss that perfect area but if you did, heaven forbid, that animal is gone. Now if you miss that perfect spot with a larger caliber then the wound channel is much larger, causing more damage and more blood, thus more trail and a faster bleed out and higher chance they bed down sooner. If your a little person, a boy or a women that's small and that's all you can shoot then have someone back up the shot or get some reloads for a 308 that are backed off a bit or take up soccer!
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Does a elk gut shot with a 243 go any farther than one gut shot with a 308? Anything I've ever shot with a 243 has been dead.
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06-26-2016, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwest Alta
Does a elk gut shot with a 243 go any farther than one gut shot with a 308? Anything I've ever shot with a 243 has been dead.
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Yes it does, and your my mini gun hero, cuz you kill everything with your barely legal gun, I bow to your awesomeness
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06-26-2016, 07:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 58thecat
Oh my a squabble....
The 243 win is capeable, the 338 win mag is capeable, unfortunately people are not capeable.
Seen shooters of mighty boom sticks very good at taking game, also shooters of little boom sticks too.
Know your rifle, practice, enjoy the hunt and your freezer will be filled every season.
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This^^^^^
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06-26-2016, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm
Yes it does, and your my mini gun hero, cuz you kill everything with your barely legal gun, I bow to your awesomeness
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Lol. Eat a snickers. Not a mini gun hero at all. Got a 243. Love it but I shoot a different gun that I suppose would make a Xbolt7mm classified as a mini gun. 243 is quite adequate.
I guess you're not dense because you do realize you're in the presence of awesomeness.
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06-26-2016, 07:52 PM
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shut down te smack talk you guys or I will shut this thread down and infract you both!
It's giving nothing to this thread.
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06-27-2016, 07:57 AM
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I settled on 95gr fusions, they gave me the best accuracy/performance ratio out of the rounds I put through. I will see how it performs in the field this upcoming season on a doe for sure. Oh and I know wrong thread but if anyone is interested in teaming up I hunt the swan hills area.
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06-27-2016, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spirit
150. White tail
If you are in your early 40s. 30 years of hunting. Never missed a season
That's 5 deer every year for 30 years
Please explain ???
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I made a comment about this earlier in the thread. Was wondering about those numbers as well. Could be he's well travelled.
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06-27-2016, 01:10 PM
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Maybe he lived somewhere like New Zealand or grew up Stateside.
Want an eye opener?
Ask someone like Southernman how many big game animals he has shot with small caliber rifles .
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06-27-2016, 01:21 PM
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25-06?
This might be an appropriate place to ask this question. I was looking into a smaller caliber for a deer rifle (and an excuse to get another rifle) and I really like the looks of the 25-06 round on paper (specs), but I've never shot one. Besides not having as many ammo options as the .243, what's been people's experience with the 25-06? Thanks
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06-27-2016, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CanadianHopHead
This might be an appropriate place to ask this question. I was looking into a smaller caliber for a deer rifle (and an excuse to get another rifle) and I really like the looks of the 25-06 round on paper (specs), but I've never shot one. Besides not having as many ammo options as the .243, what's been people's experience with the 25-06? Thanks
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A great wildcat that Remington capitalized on!
Hornady actually designed their hollow point boat tail 120 grain specifically for hunting elk with the 25/06 !
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06-27-2016, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cfnewfie
I settled on 95gr fusions, they gave me the best accuracy/performance ratio out of the rounds I put through. I will see how it performs in the field this upcoming season on a doe for sure. Oh and I know wrong thread but if anyone is interested in teaming up I hunt the swan hills area.
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Excellent, enjoy the upcoming season.
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