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Old 12-01-2022, 06:53 AM
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This is my first year trapping. Now that the cold is here I plan to set coyote snares on a bait I just started.

How often do you guys check your snares? My real job makes weekend checks the easiest but I feel like once a week might not be enough?

Does checking too often scare them off with human scent?

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Old 12-01-2022, 07:46 AM
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Depending where you are and the bird situation ,once a week is definitely too long..I quit last season 2 weeks early because the eagles were getting my coyotes and that was with every other day checks ..got 4 of my last 8 ... and I was using carcasses to feed birds 2 miles away, it worked in warmer weather but when it got cold and the carcasses froze ,the eagles went back to eating the warm freshly caught dogs ..green belly is an issue if the weather is too warm but it's not gonna happen these days . One other thing is chew outs ,a poorly caught dog that isn't dead won't likely be there in a week's time .

I set 2 sites yesterday and was met at my first by an eagle that was big enough to wear a saddle ...my check in 2 days will determine if I keep going ..if ant dogs are destroyed I will pull my stuff and hang it up .Which is too bad , there are a remarkable number of coyotes

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Old 12-01-2022, 08:50 AM
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I check mine every three days, unless itís warm out, and then Iíll check every other day. As long as you keep your boots, gloves, etc. clean, and donít wander around too much at your bait sites, then human scent isnít a huge issue. You can check your snare without actually going right up to them. Do it from a distance. I also like to use a long range attractant scent at my bait sites when it gets really cold, and your bait is frozen rock hard. Skunk Fire is my favourite. Good luck!
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Old 12-01-2022, 01:16 PM
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Not sure about Alberta but in Saskatchewan we have to check every three days or less. No more than three days without tending to your sets here in the southern zone. When I first set snares at a bait Iíll check every two days then Iíll go to three as time goes on and activity slows down.

Any longer than 2-three days it seems like if you have a catch in a snare and other coyotes see their buddy dead they get worse to what your doing and start to avoid the area. As well like others said you get more damage from birds.

When there snow avoid having to go right up to your set to check if you donít have to. Limit your human activity in their playground.
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Old 12-01-2022, 01:38 PM
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I work monday to friday, I check my stuff on the weekend only, so once a week for each spot. I lost a few animals to birds the first few years, but none since I smarten up and started to have my snares further from the bait site (100+ yds) and in very thick brush or trees. To the best of my memory, I never lost a coyote to warm temperature, but did loose 1 wolf.
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Old 12-01-2022, 04:41 PM
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Great info here guys. Appreciate it. Guess we will see how it goes. If I'm catching lots might have to fit in some mid week checks. Would have to be after dark which I'm sure makes it an adventure if you have one that is till live lol. Keeps things interesting.

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Old 12-01-2022, 05:15 PM
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Every 3-4 days, when cold 1 a week. Also keeping snares as far away from bait as possible, 75yds+. When it gets warm in the spring, birds get bad
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Old 12-01-2022, 08:09 PM
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I envy you guys that don't have eagle troubles . I keep.snares a.fair distance from the bait cause I don't want to catch eagles but I've had caught dogs as far away as 400 yds that still get nailed. The eagle I saw yesterday was the biggest I've ever seen ,just hoping he doesn't like coyote ...as soon as I catch some I will get fresh carcasses out a couple.miles away in hopes they will keep him full and happy ..

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Old 12-02-2022, 08:32 AM
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Whatís worse. 200 ravens or two eagles?

In the transition zone, there is nowhere to hide. You can learn your local birds but when the northerns come down the fun and games is over. Even 40-60 ravens can make a mess.
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Old 12-02-2022, 07:35 PM
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Ravens can eat a road killed deer in about 2 days when it is not frozen, by 3rd day there is only skeleton left.
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Old 12-03-2022, 07:17 AM
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In the transition zone, there is nowhere to hide. You can learn your local birds but when the northerns come down the fun and games is over. Even 40-60 ravens can make a mess.
Kinda like what kills better at 10 yds ...a 12 gauge or a 375 H&H...dead on both accounts
.we have fewer ravens here than eagles .I know from trail cam.pics that an eagle can eat half a coyote in roughly an hr ...takes probably 30 seconds for him to make a fur unsaleable..

I will snare for a.month or so and when the birds start to get thick I will pull the cable

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Old 12-06-2022, 08:02 AM
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My favourite is when the eagles fly down to Nevada and Wyoming and eats guys bobcats instead of my coyotes!!!

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Old 12-06-2022, 08:41 AM
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Saw a pair of turkey vultures the other day. Thought they would have gone south by now.
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Old 12-06-2022, 09:18 PM
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to each his own, but i won't let mine lay for more than two days. i don't feel its fair to poorly caught dogs, and i sure as hell don't want green belly or eagles eating them
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I lost more fur to Shrews then I ever did to birds.
But we didn't have the Raven population that we have now.
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Old 12-10-2022, 07:00 AM
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Knew it was gonna happen ,kinda surprised I got this far before it did ..still steaming when I bumped the eagles off him .

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Old 12-10-2022, 07:45 AM
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Too bad about the eagles. I'm an hour NW of Edmonton and have seen a couple eagles but ravens are more likely to be my issue. Between now and new years I finally have time to get after these dogs.

Another beginner question. How fast do you find green belly sets in? I've caught 2 so far thisbuear. One had it the second didn't. The one that did had a very full belly and must have just come off a big feed, was thinking that might have made it worse?

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Old 12-10-2022, 08:37 AM
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Baked Eagle for xmas ha ha.
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Old 12-10-2022, 08:49 AM
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Too bad about the eagles. I'm an hour NW of Edmonton and have seen a couple eagles but ravens are more likely to be my issue. Between now and new years I finally have time to get after these dogs.

Another beginner question. How fast do you find green belly sets in? I've caught 2 so far thisbuear. One had it the second didn't. The one that did had a very full belly and must have just come off a big feed, was thinking that might have made it worse?

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If itís cold like it is now, green belly shouldnít be an issue. Iíve only had it happen when itís warmer out, and the coyote has been dead in the snare for more than a couple of days.
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If itís cold like it is now, green belly shouldnít be an issue. Iíve only had it happen when itís warmer out, and the coyote has been dead in the snare for more than a couple of days.
The effect of green belly is often over stressed by many. Although green belly can be serious it is common on a lot of fur animals. It is not a serious defect until it turns really dark brown or black, then you will start to see some slippage of fur. I often have coyotes hanging for 2-3 days (even 5) in the shop at 40 - 60 degree F temperature with no problem. If youíre worried about it, wiping the area with vinegar or 3% hydrogen peroxide solution will kill the bacteria causing the rot.

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Old 12-10-2022, 11:42 AM
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Baked Eagle for xmas ha ha.
Oh but wouldn't that be nice ..lol..don't need it bad enough to spend time in the big house tho .

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Old 12-10-2022, 03:16 PM
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Some years the eagles bugger off early and hardly see one in the winter.
This year it doesn't look like they have hardly moved.
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Old 12-10-2022, 06:12 PM
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I'm afraid these ones are residents . I know of 3 nest sites and it's not uncommon to see 6-8 anytime of year on a drive thru the country..we.never had Ravens until 10 years ago and now they are common .

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to each his own, but i won't let mine lay for more than two days. i don't feel its fair to poorly caught dogs, and i sure as hell don't want green belly or eagles eating them
Iím the same way, I like to check often. I havenít noticed catching any less because of it.

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Old 12-11-2022, 12:04 PM
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Tom Cat has some very good advice on Green belly. Secret is to get the coyote or any other animal hanging by back legs. My understanding is enzymes in gut is your enemy and gravity helps keep them in gut area when animal is thawed or not frozen in field.
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Old 12-11-2022, 01:56 PM
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Baked Eagle for xmas ha ha.
Mmmm baked eagle. They did say there is a shortage of turkeys. I wonder???? Dark or white meat???
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Old 12-12-2022, 07:00 AM
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Mmmm baked eagle. They did say there is a shortage of turkeys. I wonder???? Dark or white meat???
Be glad to send you in the right direction to harvest some if you like ,I don't think they are even on a draw like turkey ..

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Old 12-12-2022, 09:59 AM
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Eagle meat may be okay, but few eagle feathers will sure get one a nice expensive visit from a CO.
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Old 12-12-2022, 05:24 PM
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Eagle meat may be okay, but few eagle feathers will sure get one a nice expensive visit from a CO.
That is for sure ...

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