2020 Conservative Party Leadership Race

[Selkirk]

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CTV News link 👉https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pete...-bid-1.4768544

With support from many corners, he'll be considered an instant Frontrunner ❗

Selkirk

[Scott N]

I'd prefer MacKay over Trudeau any day, but to me MacKay is too much of a red tory.

[kingrat]

I think if it woulda been him instead of scheer running, we'd all be alot happier right now.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by kingrat

I think if it woulda been him instead of scheer running, we'd all be alot happier right now.

Correct!

[elkhunter11]

He would be close to my last choice as leader.

[Jack Hardin]

We have to be realistic here. Peter Mackay has the experience (held 3 minister positions, Justice, Defence and Foreign Affairs), an acomplishe dspeaker, being a former crown prosecutor has experience in asking the right questions, is not from the west as central Canada dislikes the west, can carry Ontario, is a Maritimer but now resides in Toronto and we need the Toronto seats.

A western candidate will not win the next election as Quebec and Ontario and especially Toronto will not vote for an Alberta candidate, resulting in another Trudeau win.

[IronNoggin]

Putting McKay into the leader position is the best way to hand yet another election to Pierre's Idiot Child.
Really.

Nog

[Selkirk]

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Whether you like him, or not ... it's 'Official' now 👉 https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pete...ship-1.4768544

Selkirk

[riden]

Originally Posted by Scott N

I'd prefer MacKay over Trudeau any day, but to me MacKay is too much of a red tory.

He has to be, he is from NS. I have always argued, Alberta Liberals are further right than Atlantic Canadian Conservatives. PEI now has a Conservative minority government that would make Elizabeth May proud.

[pgavey]

Crap. just what we need another has been. Andrew was still warm,and Peter was cutting him up. Looser. Remember the free fishing flight on Canadian cosast guard.

[KGB]

I’m not supporting him. For me it’s Pierre all the way. McKay is way too liberal and he will not be a good leader to look after the west. He will bend over for Quebec and maritimes.

[David Henry]

I for one am overjoyed that he has thrown his hat in the ring, regardless of the political baggage. The Conservatives need a statesman with credibility, someone who has studied under the Harper shadow, one who can be taken seriously on the world stage.
We have an up and coming that looks south of the border and try's to imitate the bullying tactics of Trump in an effort to win back the glory days, pick your favorite narcissist and insert a name.
McKay will do more for the conservative party and the people of Canada than the whole collective in Ottawa at the present time. Get behind this guy and make a commitment. D.Henry.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by KGB

I’m not supporting him. For me it’s Pierre all the way. McKay is way too liberal and he will not be a good leader to look after the west. He will bend over for Quebec and maritimes.

ABSOLUTELY Agree!
Not good for the west at all.
Pierre is the only one good choice now that Rona jumped off the train.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by KGB

I’m not supporting him. For me it’s Pierre all the way. McKay is way too liberal and he will not be a good leader to look after the west. He will bend over for Quebec and maritimes.

I agree...something about McKay I just don't trust.

[Mb-MBR]

Heard Rona Ambrose will not be running....

Stephen LeDrew: A socially conservative CPC will not win

National Post Staff 2 days ago

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The Conservative Party leadership race opened Monday, with two candidates already announcing their intention to run. Stephen LeDrew spells out the recipe for the next leader’s success. Read the full transcript below.
Candidates for the Conservative Party leadership had better pay close attention to the results of a Leger Survey of Conservative Party supporters that shows only 60 per cent of conservatives are pro-choice, and only 53 per cent are in support of same-sex marriage.
This illustrates a major divide within, which, if not overcome, will prevent the party from attaining power — a socially conservative party will not be supported in Ontario, making it almost impossible to win enough seats.
This information is critical to whom will be elected leader, because it defines the task that leader has to undertake.
If the 40 per cent who are not pro-choice prevail, and elect a leader who is not for choice or same-sex, the Conservative Party will certainly lose the next election. If through hard campaigning and strategic working of the party electoral system, a socially modern leader is chosen, then that leader will have his or her work cut out for them to prevent the party from enduring splits and fractious battles which will hand the election to the Liberals.

It is not impossible—both Mulroney and Harper rode that bronco successfully — but it requires a deft touch, and luck.
Clearly a female leadership candidate will have an easier time with both these issues than a male — it is far more difficult for a male, even slightly socially conservative, to defeat a female contender who is supportive of these issues.
Rightly or wrongly, that is just the way politics is these days — men can unfairly get marginalized and pushed into the corner with the dinosaurs.
Which is not to assert that social conservatives should not have the right to organize and give voice to their views — the simple fact is that the vast majority of Canadians are not with them. The Leger poll was of avowed Conservatives — any other poll of Canadians at large shows a huge majority in favour of choice and LGBTQ rights.
So therein lies the dilemma — elect a socially modern leader, and hope that the push for electoral success doesn’t wind up alienating almost half your party. Or elect another Scheer, inviting the inevitable defeat.
The Conservative party members need to recognize that the old days of left-right politics have left the station. Canadians no longer want to be presented with a two-party choice between those outdated polarities — the debate over those tired left-right issues is over, and the majority do not want to debate abortion and sexual equality. They want to be presented with real options for climate change solutions, for international trade, for intra-provincial trade, for taxation reform (so the average wage-earner does not need to hire someone to fill out the tax return), for government efficiency, and value for the tax-dollar.
Lets watch to see if the Conservatives are in the 2020s, or will be letting the Liberals rule the decade.
The very future of our democracy is at stake.

[Selkirk]

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Interesting comments, so far ❗

Just curious, though ... Who here is a card-carrying 'active' member of the CPC, and will participate in this decision making process ❓

Selkirk

[jpohlic]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

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Interesting comments, so far ❗

Just curious, though ... Who here is a card-carrying 'active' member of the CPC, and will participate in this decision making process ❓

Selkirk

I'm not a member....... yet. When the UCP was deciding their leader I bought a membership just for that and I'll do the same for the CPC leadership vote.

[The Cook]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

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Interesting comments, so far ❗

Just curious, though ... Who here is a card-carrying 'active' member of the CPC, and will participate in this decision making process ❓

Selkirk

I am a card carrying member, just renewed for 5 years so I will have a say .IMO Mckay is another Laurention Elite / D-bag, Pollivre or O'Toole would be 3rd and fourth. Still rooting for Ambrose or Rempel. The old white boy club is half the problem.

[KGB]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

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Interesting comments, so far ❗

Just curious, though ... Who here is a card-carrying 'active' member of the CPC, and will participate in this decision making process ❓

Selkirk

I am. Both provincial and federal.

[Selkirk]

Originally Posted by KGB

I am. Both provincial and federal.

I have been an Active card-carrying member of the Federal "Right Of Center" parties (as they evolved) since the old Reform Party days. However, since moving to BC three years ago, I haven't been active at the 'provincial' level.

Update:
All reports indicate that; Ambrose is 'Out' ... but she still hasn't made it official yet 👉 https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...rose-jumps-out

Selkirk

[SuperCub]

Originally Posted by Scott N

I'd prefer MacKay over Trudeau any day, but to me MacKay is too much of a red tory.

The sad fact is that any "electable" Tory will have to be a red Tory.

[Iron Brew]

What we don’t have in Canada is a socially liberal (not politically liberal) fiscally conservative party.

[elkhunter11]

Ambrose hasn't ruled out running yet.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...p-race-reports

[Selkirk]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Ambrose hasn't ruled out running yet.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...p-race-reports

Actually, there's no rush for any of the potential candidates yet. The Conservative party is giving candidates until February 27th to qualify and throw their hats in the ring.

Selkirk

[KGB]

So far I can see Pierre as a leader. Rona isn’t going to run the way it looks like as of now, Erin is a good contender but not as sharp as Pierre. And I like the fact that Pierre is from Calgary... just like Harper...

[Selkirk]

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In addition to a new party leader, does the Conservative Party itself also need a 'Refresh' (a.k.a. 'Reboot') ❓

In order to win the next election, some think so 👉 http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1675260483768/

Selkirk

[KGB]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

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In addition to a new party leader, does the Conservative Party itself also need a 'Refresh' (a.k.a. 'Reboot') ❓

In order to win the next election, some think so 👉 http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1675260483768/

Selkirk

It wouldn’t hurt. What they/we need the most is a good marketing of our conservative values, principals and goals. We need to win as many young millennial votes as we possibly can. Unfortunately this crowd is leaning towards liberal socialist values due to the education and the typical mentality of the young minds.
We need to be able to explain in a very plain language that they can understand with a lot of clear examples what they can expect from the socialism.

[IronNoggin]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

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Just curious, though ... Who here is a card-carrying 'active' member of the CPC, and will participate in this decision making process ❓

Yep. Me, The Wife and a good handful of Buddies.
NONE of which will support McKay.
Ever.
Period.

Nog

[MK2750]

Well we might as well get use to a Liberal government then.

[dodger]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

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Interesting comments, so far ❗

Just curious, though ... Who here is a card-carrying 'active' member of the CPC, and will participate in this decision making process ❓

Selkirk

Me

Dodger