Should there be fishing courses to get a fishing licence?? - Page 5

uglyelk · #**121** 03-01-2012, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazerloop

Who cares what the ol' timers think? Get with it or do something else. Really, what did they do before the internet? destroy the planet!

Say that to this old timers face some time and see what gets destroyed.

uglyelk · #**122** 03-01-2012, 02:40 AM

Anyone got any thing better to say than we got this idea and we are right! Anyone have proof that what they sugests works? The childish insults sure aren't selling me.

We just got done with a bit of bs imposed on us by folks who had a better idea about guns. Now some folks are going to fix fishing for us.

Hey I got an idea....lets restrict rod lengths.

Let only older folks who were 18 in 1984 use the really short rods. We will call it grandfathering in... everyone else can't fish with a shorty.

Come up with some acromins for identifying fish and make people recite them...kind of like nursery rhymes and acts and proves rolled together. Sing em to a hip hop beat if it turns your crank.

Monitor the program to make sure it works. Best measurement would be a fish census after all if it's about saving fish. If it saves just one it's worth it!

So how to count fish...tough question...we have to make sure we don't count the same fish more than once...they all look alike.

I know lets count them and verify the DNA was only counted once. How...hey it's easy it's been done before. All we need to do is string some barbed wire across the river. When fish get ichy the will rub on it. we then can collect the fish scales and test them to see if it's an new fish or just the same old one with thee huge itch.

Hey if we don't get lots of DNA results we can name fish an endangered species and ban fishing!

Heck this saving a species thing will be great fun. Here I though all the important causes were gone, you know catch a lemming before drowns, save a snail, ban a bomb etc.

Heck I'm excited to say a fish.

Once we have lots of fish I'm sure I'll make tons of money with the madatory cooking class....heck I think I'll have several chapters on just fish. If you can't make "trout o blue" then no permit to catch any!

uglyelk · #**123** 03-01-2012, 02:49 AM

So are you going to have a section in your course on making carp leather? Far to many fisher folk are wasting this resource...what say yee a life time ban for allowing carp leather to go to waste...or posibly a 5 year moritorium on owning tackle. If it saves just one fish!

uglyelk · #**124** 03-01-2012, 02:50 AM

Can native folks just grandfather in? Wilbur will be angry if he has to take the trailer off the lake after he cut all the holes in the floor.

Kim473 · #**125** 03-01-2012, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfishen

If were going to bring something like that in, why not bring in a fishing rod registry while were at it. Makes about the same amount of sense.

Have to have licence # on the rod in 2" block letters so they can be seen from 100 ft away.

Have to take a 8 hr course and pay your fee.
I would bet 1/2 the people that have the boating licence could not pass the course again if written with out looking at the book. What a joke! Pay your money , take the test online with book infront of you.

Too many differant rules and regs allready to keep up with.

Make two rules and regs

# 1 - so many fish at this slot size, this type or size of hook, and only one rod hard water or open water.

# 2 - CLOSED to fishing.

covers all lakes.

michaelmicallef · #**126** 03-01-2012, 06:06 AM

How about a coarse on ethics. I can be applied to your driving, hunting, fishing what ever. Come on, I love fishing and consider it more than just a hobby, but no more government. This country is already turning into a police state.

CNP · #**127** 03-01-2012, 08:48 AM

91 against. 63 in favour. Sanity prevails. Move on.

HunterDave · #**128** 03-01-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by uglyelk

Anyone got any thing better to say than we got this idea and we are right! Anyone have proof that what they suggests works?

x2 Five pages of posts and here is the reasoning offered:

- Because a course is required for hunting.

- Because people are stupid and don't know the regs, fish species or how to handle fish.

- Because it'll generate revenue for the government.

- Because we are destroying the planet and we need to save our fish.

- Cuz you are stupid and you just don't get it!

.........and my personal favourite was Bigtoad's idea to get them young and use the course as a platform to promote his personal agenda for C&R in the province.

Pretty compelling stuff!

BeeGuy · #**129** 03-01-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ehntr

91 against. 63 in favour. Sanity prevails. Move on.

x2

Kevwood · #**130** 03-01-2012, 09:29 AM

Seems this "discussion" has run it's course...next topic? Semi-related Poll: would you pay $50 for your fishing license? Why not if it went 100% to Alberta F&W...Take the family to a movie easily $100, a round of golf $75-$100, why does our fishing cost $25.66 for a whole year? The best idea in this whole thread is that of the guy who was in favor of raising license cost to pay for more resources for SRD...would you pay more for your fishing license? I would! A much better way of controlling poachers and ignorance and having the $$$ to more effectively manage our waters...

Okotokian · #**131** 03-01-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevwood

Seems this "discussion" has run it's course...next topic? Semi-related Poll: would you pay $50 for your fishing license? Why not if it went 100% to Alberta F&W...Take the family to a movie easily $100, a round of golf $75-$100, why does our fishing cost $25.66 for a whole year? The best idea in this whole thread is that of the guy who was in favor of raising license cost to pay for more resources for SRD...would you pay more for your fishing license? I would! A much better way of controlling poachers and ignorance and having the $$$ to more effectively manage our waters...

I'd be willing to pay more for ALL my hunting and fishing licences, if the money went to F&W programs and not flushed down the government general revenue hole.

Later edit: Oooops, though maybe we should start a new thread on that rather than hijack this one. People get sensitive about that.

horsetrader · #**132** 03-01-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

I'd be willing to pay more for ALL my hunting and fishing licences, if the money went to F&W programs and not flushed down the government general revenue hole.

Later edit: Oooops, though maybe we should start a new thread on that rather than hijack this one. People get sensitive about that.

That's ok we will blame it on that you only have so much internet time can't waste it setting up new pole.............lol

bpallen · #**133** 03-01-2012, 11:02 AM

I don't agree with a Fishing Course, but I'm sure its coming ( another cash grab - in the name of conservation ). Fish stocks are not kept up by education or handling of fish by uneducated anglers - if anything, new anglers have the respect the sport deserves.

Its not the anglers that harm the fish stocks - its the management of the stocks. I can't think back, how many years have we gone to the fish management meetings and expressed our dislike towards running nets on Buck Lake. Now how many jumbo White fish are being caught by hook and line - not very many. And the waisting of fish. There was a posting about Burbot left to rot on the ice from a net. Where is the conservation officers that day putting a stop to it - One person or group causing a major problem for the rest of us - Fines should have been huge for that.

It seems to be the majority of anglers care about the conservation and long term solutions than the officers and people in charge. And having a program to go fishing is not going to change anything - except the weight in our pockets.

Monster Pike Man · #**134** 03-01-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevwood

Seems this "discussion" has run it's course...next topic? Semi-related Poll: would you pay $50 for your fishing license? Why not if it went 100% to Alberta F&W...Take the family to a movie easily $100, a round of golf $75-$100, why does our fishing cost $25.66 for a whole year? The best idea in this whole thread is that of the guy who was in favor of raising license cost to pay for more resources for SRD...would you pay more for your fishing license? I would! A much better way of controlling poachers and ignorance and having the $$$ to more effectively manage our waters...

That was my idea. I would pay a 100 bucks a year no problem if all the money went to more biologists, C.O's and restocking programs. Alberta has a ton of pressure on its lakes, and with more money going into worthy causes would help substancially. And get rid of that retarded tagging system.

Monster Pike Man · #**135** 03-01-2012, 03:18 PM

And if people wanna go fishing for the day charge them 5 bucks a day. I know not every person can afford a 100 bucks a year so create some options

Kevwood · #**136** 03-01-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Monster Pike Man

That was my idea. I would pay a 100 bucks a year no problem if all the money went to more biologists, C.O's and restocking programs. Alberta has a ton of pressure on its lakes, and with more money going into worthy causes would help substancially. And get rid of that retarded tagging system.

Thanks, I didn't want to re-read all the posts to find out who said it....MPM you are thinking in the right direction, also good idea for the daily or single trip license...not everyone can afford the license, but I'm all for raising the cost for better management...

dragon · #**137** 03-01-2012, 04:10 PM

I know nothing about trout identification and if i wanted to go fish the beloved Bow I could tomorrow! I coudl catch 10 different species and it wouldn't matter one bit to me!

you absolutely DO NOT need to know what species of fish your catching until you start keeping them.

gun knowledge is life and death, driving a boat is life and death
(Arugably if its a 12 ft can with an electric motor), driving a car is life and death, fishing simply is not.

Okotokian · #**138** 03-01-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Monster Pike Man

And if people wanna go fishing for the day charge them 5 bucks a day. I know not every person can afford a 100 bucks a year so create some options

Options are a great idea.

$5 licence allows you to fish a small number of lakes on even numbered days during the summer. The $100 licence lets you fish all open bodies of water all year.

I'm just teasing ya.