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07-05-2017, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by covey ridge
There is nothing shabby about bird shot if used at close range. I use 12 gauge 7 1/2 target loads through a full choke to prune poplar limbs rather than try to control a saw from a ladder. 3 and 4 inch diameter limbs 20+ feet from ground get a 12+ bore hole right through. Often one shot is enough to break the limb and it falls with that one shot. Hundred of tiny projectiles concentrated on a one inch area make one mean looking hole.
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Penetration is what you need for a large bear. Watch the video.
https://youtu.be/7wCnKo6-NKQ
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07-05-2017, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
There is nothing shabby about bird shot if used at close range. I use 12 gauge 7 1/2 target loads through a full choke to prune poplar limbs rather than try to control a saw from a ladder. 3 and 4 inch diameter limbs 20+ feet from ground get a 12+ bore hole right through. Often one shot is enough to break the limb and it falls with that one shot. Hundred of tiny projectiles concentrated on a one inch area make one mean looking hole.
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Next time your pruning your trees please let us know! I'd like to come along with some cold beers and a lawn chair and watch this spectacle!
BW
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07-05-2017, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman
Next time your pruning your trees please let us know! I'd like to come along with some cold beers and a lawn chair and watch this spectacle!
BW
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X2, sounds like he makes pruning trees more enjoyable than I ever did...
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07-05-2017, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman
Next time your pruning your trees please let us know! I'd like to come along with some cold beers and a lawn chair and watch this spectacle!
BW
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Me too!
Record it for posterity... You could probably get some extra income from your "The Shotgun Arborist" YouTube channel...
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07-05-2017, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: N. E. of High River
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
X2, sounds like he makes pruning trees more enjoyable than I ever did...
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The work starts after getting a half dozen big limbs on the ground.
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07-05-2017, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: McBride/Prince George
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
The work starts after getting a half dozen big limbs on the ground.
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Looks like you got helpers now.....
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07-05-2017, 02:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
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I still say there is nothing shabby about bird shot.
Hard to tell which would be the better if full choke were used.
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07-05-2017, 02:56 PM
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The theory is that the bird shot takes out the nose and eyes of the bear so he can't find you, leaving you time to follow up with several slugs.
I have not had the opportunity to test out this theory, however.
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07-05-2017, 02:57 PM
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I don't know if my poplar pruning makes anything more enjoyable, but for me it is a safer way than a ladder and a clumsy chain saw to bring down a large limb. Cheaper that hiring a pro tree pruner.
My point was the power of bird shot at close range.
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07-05-2017, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by Texican
The theory is that the bird shot takes out the nose and eyes of the bear so he can't find you, leaving you time to follow up with several slugs.
I have not had the opportunity to test out this theory, however.
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I have heard that theory and do not buy it as happening except by chance and not by planning it that way.
I would expect that a well placed shot would do more than make sure the bear could not see and smell but maybe make him brain dead.
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07-06-2017, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by covey ridge
The work starts after getting a half dozen big limbs on the ground.
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Fire pit, smokies and a few bevies
Dam sounds like tree pruning is fun yard work
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07-06-2017, 12:56 PM
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Hmmmm?? Seems to be lots of argument over what does and doesn't work for self defense in a bear attack? If I read the story right he killed it at point blank range with a load of bird shot and the term "killed" leads me to believe the bear died?!! There is alot of destructive force at point blank range with any shotgun load. Slugs, buckshot or birdshot imo have much better stopping power than a can of bear spray!!
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07-07-2017, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by The Spank
Hmmmm?? Seems to be lots of argument over what does and doesn't work for self defense in a bear attack? If I read the story right he killed it at point blank range with a load of bird shot and the term "killed" leads me to believe the bear died?!! There is alot of destructive force at point blank range with any shotgun load. Slugs, buckshot or birdshot imo have much better stopping power than a can of bear spray!!
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You need to re-read the story.
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