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Old 10-21-2020, 09:27 AM
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I think there is a big underlying resentment to Turdo out there. Most of us who have been around know we will have to pay big time for his 7 months of throwing cash around. Then there is the constant scandal after scandal. I think he may be in for a surprise if he calls an election.



What gets me is each time he has resistance from the opposition, he turns it into a confidence vote. I think O Toole will put Turdo on his heels in the next election, whenever it comes.

But his buddy Jughead will help him out today. He talks tough in the media but will not want to give up his warm spot beside Turdo in bed.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:29 AM
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All true, but when given a chance to vote, we have 3 choices.
1. Vote for the party that has a chance, no matter how slim, of defeating the party in power.
2. Don't vote, or vote for a fringe party, giving a minority government a better chance of hanging onto parliamentary bill passing power, by making back room deals.
3. Hold your nose and vote for who's in power whether you like it or not.
Can you tell me one conservative value that these "conservatives" you support have?

You are also missing choice:
4. Vote Trudeau and watch the country burn. Then the givers of our society will rise from the ashes like a phoenix while the takers perish. Its inevitable, so lets get it over with. How do you take off a band-aid?
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:44 AM
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Zero chance.

The Lib's followers just don't care how corrupt they are or how many scandals they are involved in.

Low I.Q, CBC watching voters...

Talked to my transplant cousin living in Newfoundland a few weeks ago, he said he dosent dare talk politics with ANYONE there as they are all HUGE Liberal supporters, still, for some reason. He says he could be the only one on the rock to vote Blue.

They all live off fake news CBC and believe the crap they sell wholesale.

When I was there a couple years ago I tried talking politics with his wife, she wouldn't talk with me knowing I'm as Albertan as they come. I don't blame her for not wanting to talk about facts.

So I tried talking US politics instead. I know everyone there hates Trump so I asked her why she dosent like him, and got the standard response, "he's racist" I said ok, point out exactly where he said something that would make you think that. She said cause he wants to build a wall and hates all Mexicans

I asked her how wanting to keep ILLEGAL immigrants out could possibly be considered racist, all I got were crickets.. When I clarified that he just wants Mexicans to immigrate LEGALLY, as opposed to ILLEGALLY, it was crickets again. But Orange Man still bad! Zoolander good! Newfies, bless their hearts.

I stopped the conversation right there, I knew there was no helping her see the light. They seem all too happy to wallow in their own ignorance.
Meh, I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Just over 100,000 voters in NL chose the Turd and just over 70,000 voted Tory. To say that there are no Conservatives in NL and that they're all huge Liberals supporters is a bit much. That being said, as a Newfoundlander whose been living in Alberta for more than 26 years I was infuriated beyond belief that all 7 seats in NL went to sparkle socks considering that he is openly anti oil and gas and the economy in NL relies heavily on the offshore oil industry.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:46 AM
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Can you tell me one conservative value that these "conservatives" you support have?

You are also missing choice:
4. Vote Trudeau and watch the country burn. Then the givers of our society will rise from the ashes like a phoenix while the takers perish. Its inevitable, so lets get it over with. How do you take off a band-aid?
Andrew Sheer was foolish enough to vocalize his conservative values. Look where that got him. To stand any chance of winning at all, conservative candidates must at least appear to be "social conservatives ".
My choice #3 is vote for Trudeau. What happens next happens.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:52 AM
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the worst thing that can happen right now is an election, Trudeau will get 4 more years, will get a majority and with that the idea that the people support his ways. He will run wild throwing away our western values, destroying our chosen lifestyles and mounting massive debts that his trust fund is protected from.

The conservatives are done, they will never form a majority government in Canada again, especially with another old white dude leading the party. The leadership in the conservative party can have the blame laid at their feet, they had the opportunity to move the party forward and select an electable leader and they gave us Otoole..... the media has already run stories about how old and fat he is compared to our great leader. Substance doesn't matter to the people, the con party should have recognized this, the fact they haven't shows how disconnected they are from the voting public.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:53 AM
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I think there is a big underlying resentment to Turdo out there. Most of us who have been around know we will have to pay big time for his 7 months of throwing cash around. Then there is the constant scandal after scandal. I think he may be in for a surprise if he calls an election.



What gets me is each time he has resistance from the opposition, he turns it into a confidence vote. I think O Toole will put Turdo on his heels in the next election, whenever it comes.

But his buddy Jughead will help him out today. He talks tough in the media but will not want to give up his warm spot beside Turdo in bed.
Ha ha! Jughead...love it.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:56 AM
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the worst thing that can happen right now is an election, Trudeau will get 4 more years, will get a majority and with that the idea that the people support his ways. He will run wild throwing away our western values, destroying our chosen lifestyles and mounting massive debts that his trust fund is protected from.

The conservatives are done, they will never form a majority government in Canada again, especially with another old white dude leading the party. The leadership in the conservative party can have the blame laid at their feet, they had the opportunity to move the party forward and select an electable leader and they gave us Otoole..... the media has already run stories about how old and fat he is compared to our great leader. Substance doesn't matter to the people, the con party should have recognized this, the fact they haven't shows how disconnected they are from the voting public.
Still, we have but 3 choices...
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:57 AM
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Absurd, the first Canadian election precipitated by what should be a minor event ? The Liberals really have lost it and the Conservative can only lose. Tragic.

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Old 10-21-2020, 10:40 AM
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the worst thing that can happen right now is an election, Trudeau will get 4 more years, will get a majority and with that the idea that the people support his ways. He will run wild throwing away our western values, destroying our chosen lifestyles and mounting massive debts that his trust fund is protected from.

The conservatives are done, they will never form a majority government in Canada again, especially with another old white dude leading the party. The leadership in the conservative party can have the blame laid at their feet, they had the opportunity to move the party forward and select an electable leader and they gave us Otoole..... the media has already run stories about how old and fat he is compared to our great leader. Substance doesn't matter to the people, the con party should have recognized this, the fact they haven't shows how disconnected they are from the voting public.
Pretty much says it all! The turd would love an election right now. He can blame it on the conservatives, walk away with a majority and become an even bigger dick tater! DUHO CANADA!
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:26 AM
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Andrew Sheer was foolish enough to vocalize his conservative values. Look where that got him. To stand any chance of winning at all, conservative candidates must at least appear to be "social conservatives ".
My choice #3 is vote for Trudeau. What happens next happens.
Scheer made sure that people knew the party had no "conservative" values. It got him nowhere. So if we have to vote for Liberals wearing a blue tie why would you be upset that I choose to support a conservative party? Especially when the "blue-tie-party" (CPC) must move further left each election? No, I will vote for a conservative party, why don't you quit splitting the votes and do the same? (Really no option at this point though) I will only support Bloc Albertois. Confederation has failed; lets move on.

As for your #3, yes I guess you meant Trudeau, when I read it I thought you were implying a similar minority scenario. Now I see what you meant and yes, I stand corrected.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:31 AM
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O'Toole is younger than Trudeau . . . ?
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:31 AM
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O'Toole is younger than Trudeau . . . ?
Not to the CBC he's not.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:41 AM
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Any Election call is NOT about how good a job the Liberals are doing, it is about how BAD the foreseeable FUTURE will be.

Someone in Ottawa has finally noticed what environmental policies, and Aboriginal appeasement has done to Natural Resource investment in Canada.

The Libs know that it is going to be a bad year ahead, and needs to guarantee any chance at a Majority now, before the continual spiral down is recognized by Eastern Canada Voters.


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Old 10-21-2020, 11:42 AM
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Scheer made sure that people knew the party had no "conservative" values. It got him nowhere. So if we have to vote for Liberals wearing a blue tie why would you be upset that I choose to support a conservative party? Especially when the "blue-tie-party" (CPC) must move further left each election? No, I will vote for a conservative party, why don't you quit splitting the votes and do the same? (Really no option at this point though) I will only support Bloc Albertois. Confederation has failed; lets move on.

As for your #3, yes I guess you meant Trudeau, when I read it I thought you were implying a similar minority scenario. Now I see what you meant and yes, I stand corrected.

I would vote conservative as well. However a vote in Western Canada is an exercise in futility. Western Canadian votes don't count.

Not one federal election has been one on the backs of Western Canadians. Or decided by poles in the west. Election is over before the votes in the west are tallied.

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Old 10-21-2020, 01:25 PM
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It really surprises me how scandal after scandal and yet the east still loves this clown. It’s an absolute joke. He has no values no morals no backbone. He stands for nothing and flip flops every chance he gets. Oh you want to investigate me then I want an election so I don’t have to. The corruption runs deep in that boy. I love giving my money to casino no less to the time of 200 mil. He is ruining Canada and we will be broke to boot.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:29 PM
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There is a lot of people in Canada who don’t care at all what happens to the country as long as someone throws some cash their way. ( cash from someone else’s pocket obviously).
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:33 PM
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No election they survived the non confidence vote.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:31 PM
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No election they survived the non confidence vote.

Link 👉 https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN2762BF

Probably just as well,

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