Regulation Changes for 2018

[matt1984]

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...ime=1518005129


Apparently a spear is unsafe, and inhumane. I wonder when Shannon will decide the same for bow hunting?

[MooseRiverTrapper]

The ABA went after spears. Essentially long arrows.

[Pathfinder76]

The ABA needs to be reigned in.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by chuck

The ABA needs to be reigned in.

Yup but it's a cult like organization....sad but true.

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

The ABA went after spears. Essentially long arrows.

Yes, but it was the video that put the nail in the coffin. Public outcry did the rest.

[matt1984]

how many videos of questionable bow kills are on youtube? If that's all it takes, I'm a little worried

[Red Bullets]

Also,

The regulations will also set new standards for ammunition by requiring shotgun pellets to be larger than .24 inches in diameter. This means hunters must use .24-calibre buckshot or larger when hunting big game to ensure a quick and effective kill.

[boah]

I wonder when they will realize that the caliber of the projectile has less to do with humane kills than energy and bullet placement.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Red Bullets

Also,

The regulations will also set new standards for ammunition by requiring shotgun pellets to be larger than .24 inches in diameter. This means hunters must use .24-calibre buckshot or larger when hunting big game to ensure a quick and effective kill.

is that bad?? i tried 7 1/2 on a buck last year but i never found it...

[1899b]

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[Full Curl Earl]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

The ABA went after spears. Essentially long arrows.

Not unless you can throw your spear at 225 FPS minimum and crush tic tacs at 30 meters, there is a big difference.
I always looked at spear hunters as people who like killing, not hunting, but that’s just my outlook. And yes, as a bow hunter I see the conflict with that stance, but it is what it is.
The public sees a bloodlust in spear hunting on the net, and when they come gunning for the end of it, all hunting will pay the price, and that’s a shame in my opinion.

[Mulehahn]

The ABA sold hunters out. That is how I read that article. There was a public outcry when a cougar was shot. There is public outcry when a carcass is found. There is public outcry when an elk is shot in the Foothills. Public outcry should not gave a say in policy. Organizations such as the ABA should and they just proved they are willing to sell us out.

As for the shot size, .24 is no.4 buckshot. The smallest buckshot there is. Was it common for people to go hunting big game with BBB goose loads? I have never heard of it!

[Flatlandliver]

Originally Posted by Mulehahn

Public outcry should not gave a say in policy. Organizations such as the ABA should and they just proved they are willing to sell us out

‘In an interview with Postmedia, Environment Minister Shannon Phillips said the change is a result of extensive consultations with hunting associations, the Alberta Conservation Association and the Alberta Hunter Education Instructors’ Association.’

[dmcbride]

I am just going to identify as an indigenous hunter.

The new regulations won’t interfere with the rights of Indigenous hunters to practise traditional hunting methods.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Mulehahn

The ABA sold hunters out. That is how I read that article. There was a public outcry when a cougar was shot. There is public outcry when a carcass is found. There is public outcry when an elk is shot in the Foothills. Public outcry should not gave a say in policy. Organizations such as the ABA should and they just proved they are willing to sell us out.

As for the shot size, .24 is no.4 buckshot. The smallest buckshot there is. Was it common for people to go hunting big game with BBB goose loads? I have never heard of it!

If you notice in the article the ABA was not mentioned. ACA and Aheia were.

LC

[elkhunter11]

I was losing faith in the AFGA , before they stated that they were okay with the ban, now I have zero use for them. They seem to be more concerned with spending members money on a new clubhouse, than promoting hunting and fishing.

[Chuck_Wagon]

“The provincial government has instead formulated a list of approved weapons: rifles, shotguns and conventional archery gear.
The result is a list of permitted weapons, much like the approach used in other provinces.”

So what else has been changed, I want to see this list of approved gear.

[Mulehahn]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

If you notice in the article the ABA was not mentioned. ACA and Aheia were.

LC

You are correct. When I read the article my mind put in ABA instead if ACA. I was wrong and apologize. The ABA were the ones, as was stated earlier, to put forth the resolution but it was supported the ACA and the AHEIA.

I want to make sure I have all the facts straight now. The resolution to ban spears and atlatls was proposed by the ABA, Alberta's primary pointy stick group. It was then pushed through by two groups; one of which is responsible for hunter education in Alberta and the other who is responsible for the disbursement of funds generated from tags and licenses? Wow! I hope I am wrong! I really do. Please someone tell me I a crazy, or did three of the groups in the province with the largest impact on future hunting opportunities just argue for less opportunity?

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Not unless you can throw your spear at 225 FPS minimum and crush tic tacs at 30 meters, there is a big difference.
I always looked at spear hunters as people who like killing, not hunting, but that’s just my outlook. And yes, as a bow hunter I see the conflict with that stance, but it is what it is.
The public sees a bloodlust in spear hunting on the net, and when they come gunning for the end of it, all hunting will pay the price, and that’s a shame in my opinion.

I can really wing my spear.

[Running Bear]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

I can really wing my spear.

Lmao
The most skilled spear chucker I know.

[dmcbride]

Maybe I should lobby to ban bow hunting. hmmm.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl

Not unless you can throw your spear at 225 FPS minimum and crush tic tacs at 30 meters, there is a big difference.
I always looked at spear hunters as people who like killing, not hunting, but that’s just my outlook. And yes, as a bow hunter I see the conflict with that stance, but it is what it is.
The public sees a bloodlust in spear hunting on the net, and when they come gunning for the end of it, all hunting will pay the price, and that’s a shame in my opinion.

Are you serious? There are FAR better ways to accumulate body count.

[Full Curl Earl]

Originally Posted by chuck

Are you serious? There are FAR better ways to accumulate body count.

I’m not sure what you read in my post about body counts, but it was a mistake on your part Chuck. Of course spear hunting has low success and even lower participants I suspect. But I am as always, Serious. Lol
Lots of good posts here, we will need to have good dialog like this as the times, they are a changing. There will be more challenges, and decisions will need to be made for the “good of all”, as we’ve proven again and again that we can’t organize and fight the good fight, gun control has proven that.

[calvin]

and it begins-> pew pew pew

[Ridger]

Thanks for sharing