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As anyone that actually bothered to read the releases is well aware of, the situation has been resolved as far as the police force is concerned. All that remains to be seen, is whether the guy being shot at sues, and how much he receives.
So the police force agrees with all of the posters, that stated that the officer's behaviour was not reasonable.
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Yup… not sure anyone else noticed this but this video and the event in question is part of the training program for officers. Ie. What NOT to do.
Seems like in this instance… people are blowing this up as a video that released by others to slam police. In fact the video was released by police to better train police.
I say Cudos to the police department for the openness and being proactive to make a positive out of this situation.
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Haha made me think of this guy.
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02-21-2024, 08:06 PM
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It's your turn to give back Moose, you're a beauty! Moose for Mod!
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Haha made me think of this guy.
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02-21-2024, 08:11 PM
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That's Moose??
Emotional damage....
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As long as we are speculating with absolutely no information whatsoever, I bet the guy grew up playing Call of Duty and HALO while chugging Mountain Dew and Monster energy drinks, had a fetish for his step mom, was beaten by his uncle, abused by his Catholic priest, is bipolar with an eating disorder, and is allergic to nuts. It all adds up to shooting up his cruiser while feeling weird. He probably voted for Trump too.
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Not so much speculating , , semi educated guess . Myself Having served 93-98 have experienced a couple friends that had ptsd and 1 guy in town I know currently living with it.
If you care to read this news article these 2 brothers were my friends . Back in Nova scotia we did some awesome trout fishing back in the day.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...ptsd-1.4589733
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^ That’s some rough ride. Sorry for your loss. And thanks for sharing.
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Ah yes now his nick name makes more sense 
Sorry moose.
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Not so much speculating , , semi educated guess . Myself Having served 93-98 have experienced a couple friends that had ptsd and 1 guy in town I know currently living with it.
If you care to read this news article these 2 brothers were my friends . Back in Nova scotia we did some awesome trout fishing back in the day.
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Thankyou Sir for your service and for sharing your friends story!
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PTSD is a very serious issue, but we don't know that this officer had PTSD. And the reality is, it really doesn't matter why he did what he did, the important thing, is that he isn't placed in a position, where he can endanger the public again.
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I don't know if it's been mentioned. I'm betting this guy is a vet and has severe Ptsd . When i was a kid in the early 80's a Vietnam vet was one of our boy scouts counselors . one of the other counselors set off a firecracker during a camp fire story and this guy dove for cover and was shaking / chain-smoking wreck for the rest of the weekend .
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Well, you're pretty close from what I heard on another video on this cop.
He is a Vet, but never saw combat.
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Yup… not sure anyone else noticed this but this video and the event in question is part of the training program for officers. Ie. What NOT to do.
Seems like in this instance… people are blowing this up as a video that released by others to slam police. In fact the video was released by police to better train police.
I say Cudos to the police department for the openness and being proactive to make a positive out of this situation.
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That's so cute of you to think this.
The police had no legal choice but to release the video, then the Public posted it online....
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PTSD is a very serious issue, but we don't know that this officer had PTSD. And the reality is, it really doesn't matter why he did what he did, the important thing, is that he isn't placed in a position, where he can endanger the public again.
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Easy to criticize, but in an environment where a threat could conceivably come from anywhere, any time, we've turned cops into robots, trained to react, not think. If they do shoot someone, it's the whole mag, not a double tap and a cap gun is termed just as much a threat as the real thing.
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Well, you're pretty close from what I heard on another video on this cop.
He is a Vet, but never saw combat.
That's so cute of you to think this.
The police had no legal choice but to release the video, then the Public posted it online....
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Not trying to be cute but thanks for noticing. 
I saw the comments about the video for educational purposes but see now it wasn’t a police post. So you are correct.
Reading the report https://www.sheriff-okaloosa.org/wp-...rt-Jackson.pdf. It looks like the police review was fair based upon the video.
It is an interesting case study.
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Wonder where 1/2 of the rounds ended up in that residential neighborhood ??
Luckily no one lost their life because of those clowns.
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02-22-2024, 11:21 AM
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Wonder where 1/2 of the rounds ended up in that residential neighborhood ??
Luckily no one lost their life because of those clowns.
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I would think most rounds ended up embedded in the police car, pretty big target to miss.
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02-22-2024, 01:35 PM
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I would think most rounds ended up embedded in the police car, pretty big target to miss.
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There is a car guy on you tube called Scotty Kilmer. If I remember right I'm pretty sure he said all American police cruisers since 2005 have body armor that will stop 7.62x39 ak rounds.
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02-22-2024, 01:49 PM
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So those were just covering shots.
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02-22-2024, 02:05 PM
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So those were just covering shots.
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Haha okay that's good to know haha
Really they must know their cars are armored so if actually shooting at a armored car that would show how much they were not thinking. Haha I never thought about them using suppression fire haha like in Afghanistan or something haha
You know without body cameras. If someone claimed this happened. Nobody would believe him.
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There is a car guy on you tube called Scotty Kilmer. If I remember right I'm pretty sure he said all American police cruisers since 2005 have body armor that will stop 7.62x39 ak rounds.
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That doesn't match up with what I am seeing online. Apparently armor plating is available, but due to the extra cost and weight, many police forces aren't buying it.
Then again, the vehicles on television and in the movies all seem to have bulletproof doors, because people hide behind them, and the bullets don't go through..
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That doesn't match up with what I am seeing online. Apparently armor plating is available, but due to the extra cost and weight, many police forces aren't buying it.
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Depends I guess on how you Google it? After reading your post I googled armoured ford police interceptor and armoured interceptor's I got. If I googled armoured police cruisers I probably got what you were looking at. Some are but probably most are not. Its mostly Wikipedia or Quara people like us or used armoured cop cars for sale. No search results I saw really gave a answer.
In my area of Alberta you should see the dog catcher's car!
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The lawsuits are being filed and new information is being claimed.
According to the victims lawyer...
There were two separate rounds of gunfire from the police.
First the Acorn drop shooting.
Then a lull as more police arrived armed with long-guns.
Police gave commands for the victim to place his hands over his head (his hands were cuffed behind his back) and to sit upright with his head exposed to their view.
Then the Police started shooting again.
It's amazing that this kid is alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9egKUsjlxO0
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The lawsuits are being filed and new information is being claimed.
According to the victims lawyer...
There were two separate rounds of gunfire from the police.
First the Acorn drop shooting.
Then a lull as more police arrived armed with long-guns.
Police gave commands for the victim to place his hands
over his head (his hands were cuffed behind his back)
and to sit upright with his head exposed to their view.
Then the Police started shooting again.
It's amazing that this kid is alive
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It looks like the guy went from getting arrested, to collecting a windfall from the city/county, because of the stupidity of the police. I am thinking that they will settle, rather than to have a jury listen to the details and decide on an appropriate amount of cash.
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Will the squirrel face any charges or walk away with his nuts intact?
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Will the squirrel face any charges or walk away with his nuts intact?
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The squirrel was likely the smartest one present during the incident.
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I would think most rounds ended up embedded in the police car, pretty big target to miss.
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From the distance he was shooting and the fact that cop was wound up like a $2.00 watch. He coulda easily put a bunch of rounds over that Police SUV.
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Yes! Yes! Come, join the melee, Moose! 
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Ouch! Moose will need some liniment for that burn...
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Ouch! Moose will need some liniment for that burn...
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He should change the privacy settings on his facebook if he doesn’t like it.
Pretty easy. It’s not rocket surgery.
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Part of the story I never heard was there was a guy handcuffed in the cop car he’s filed a monster lawsuit somehow he never got hit although he did need new shorts
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