The more you know!

[trophybook]

So you can now get a pal/rpal without a picture! It's called a religious exemption. I urge all of you to write to your mp about this. It's quite scary. Don't believe me? Call the Canadian​ firearms​ center at 18007314000 and tell them you just passed your pal/rpal and have not yet submitted your application and you wear a full face niqab because of your religion and you are wondering how to proceed with the application..

[dmcbride]

Was just watching this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn2Hn85zMag

[slickwilly]

Guns are for everyone, right?

[Scott N]

I worship at the Church of 1911.

[catnthehat]

Personally speaking, I find the PAL/RPAL the most worthless pieces of plastic in my wallet- they are worthless as photo ID anywhere but buying a firearm.
Cat

[Okotokian]

Relax guys. This isn't just a muslim issue. Many Amish and Mennonites also refuse to be photographed for religious reasons. A large number of US states grant exemptions for drivers licenses and have done so since long before this whole veil issue came up. Wouldn't expect Rebel media to point that out however.

Here's an older story from 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/us/25mennonites.html

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Relax guys. This isn't just a muslim issue. Many Amish and Mennonites also refuse to be photographed for religious reasons. A large number of US states grant exemptions for drivers licenses and have done so since long before this whole veil issue came up. Wouldn't expect Rebel media to point that out however.

Here's an older story from 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/us/25mennonites.html

Canada has never allowed this exemption on official ID. Until now apparently.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Canada has never allowed this exemption on official ID. Until now apparently.

That isn't quite true either. Some provinces that have photo ID for healthcare cards have a religious exemption. Of course Alberta doesn't demand a photo of anyone to dole out hundreds of thousands of dollars of healthcare services. SO one as to wonder about the value of photos on things like healthcare cards or PAL's anyway. What's the purpose of a photo on a PAL? You aren't even legally required to show the card to purchase a firearm.

[58thecat]

Yup, here we go again...sad but true, all Canadians but treated differently...I am at a complete hard shake of the head but I just got back from work and a cold beer will be on hand shortly!

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Yup, here we go again...sad but true, all Canadians but treated differently...I am at a complete hard shake of the head but I just got back from work and a cold beer will be on hand shortly!

Isn't that what makes Canada, Canada?

We shouldn't be surprised or shocked by this. It's a government program!

BW

[KGB]

I think I have seen it all but apparently not....
Did you know that there is an exemption available for your PAL /RPAL. Well here you go!
https://youtu.be/vn2Hn85zMag

[JareS]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Personally speaking, I find the PAL/RPAL the most worthless pieces of plastic in my wallet- they are worthless as photo ID anywhere but buying a firearm.
Cat

Exactly. Tried getting into an establishment a year or two ago. Refused to accept my PAL as valid photo ID, even with my AB Health card, Social Insurance, etc etc. They told me that the reason was that, and get this, "they're too easy to fake." So its legitimate enough for me to buy a gun, but not prove that I'm over 18....

[elkhunter11]

Just another example of the stupidity of our federal government.

[270person]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

Relax guys. This isn't just a muslim issue. Many Amish and Mennonites also refuse to be photographed for religious reasons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/us/25mennonites.html

Amish buying guns these days?

[whiteout]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Just another example of the stupidity of our federal government.

Which government would that be, considering that it's not a new exemption you can request.

This really is a non-story.

If you apply for a PAL and have a religious exemption to the photo requirements, do people seriously think the background checks and reference checks are waived as well?

It's not just the "scary brown people" who might be asking for this exemption. There are other religious groups that object to photos appearing on identification.

Is the photo on a PAL really that much of a security feature? You can buy everything you want online these days, no physical person in front of the seller to compare to the picture on the license.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by whiteout

Which government would that be, considering that it's not a new exemption you can request.

This really is a non-story.

If you apply for a PAL and have a religious exemption to the photo requirements, do people seriously think the background checks and reference checks are waived as well?

It's not just the "scary brown people" who might be asking for this exemption. There are other religious groups that object to photos appearing on identification.

Is the photo on a PAL really that much of a security feature? You can buy everything you want online these days, no physical person in front of the seller to compare to the picture on the license.

If a picture is not a security feature, then why ask for a picture on the application? Why not just drop the picture requirement for everyone?

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by 270person

Amish buying guns these days?

Hutterites do.

[whiteout]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Canada has never allowed this exemption on official ID. Until now apparently.

Up until 2003, and probably 2009 due to legal battles, you could get an AB driver's license without a photo.

[lannie]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Hutterites do.

True, I have personally seen Hutterite licenses from the Lehrerleut sects that were without photos in the early eighties.

[roger]

theism is the root cause and the fact that decent society cant criticize it is deplorable.

[Kim473]

What is wrong with this country and Government ? You have to watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn2H...&feature=share

WOW !

[58thecat]

Thought this already circulated yesterday...equality for all.....not!

[elkhunter11]

Total stupidity1 If a picture isn't required for everyone, then do away with the requirement for everyone.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If a picture is not a security feature, then why ask for a picture on the application? Why not just drop the picture requirement for everyone?

A picture less Pal could be used by someone else to purchase firearms. I have never been asked to show another piece of ID, not that it would make a difference if there wasn't a picture.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Hutterites do.

Exactly and then they run amok though the neighbourhood wearing coloured socks and terrorizing the citizenry.

[wildbill]

I didn't realize certain people were exempt to having photos on their PALs, wow, just wow, the 1022 10+ mags are prohibited, and ARs, restricted, but there are people wondering around this country without photos on their pals? I gotta start smokin crack so I'm on the same page as these imbeciles, OH MY!!!

[Newview01]

It's not the crack they smoke, it's the books they read.

[sailor]

Originally Posted by trophybook

So you can now get a pal/rpal without a picture! It's called a religious exemption. I urge all of you to write to your mp about this. It's quite scary. Don't believe me? Call the Canadian​ firearms​ center at 18007314000 and tell them you just passed your pal/rpal and have not yet submitted your application and you wear a full face niqab because of your religion and you are wondering how to proceed with the application..

C'mon don't you know that every photo of you is stealing a part of your soul?

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

That isn't quite true either. Some provinces that have photo ID for healthcare cards have a religious exemption. Of course Alberta doesn't demand a photo of anyone to dole out hundreds of thousands of dollars of healthcare services. SO one as to wonder about the value of photos on things like healthcare cards or PAL's anyway. What's the purpose of a photo on a PAL? You aren't even legally required to show the card to purchase a firearm.

C'mon Oki, you're trying to be the voice of reason on AO? Too much fact and common sense.

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Exactly and then they run amok though the neighbourhood wearing coloured socks and terrorizing the citizenry.

LOL. OMG Red. Keep it coming bud. I need to swing by with a bottle of forty creek sometime and shake your hand.

[wildbill]

I think I'll invent a religion so I can do whatever I want, and be exempt to following laws. This country has to stop catering to people who use use religion as an excuse not to follow the law, people pack around concealed knives, not have PAL pics, you know what, if you can't beat em' join em'. I'm going make a religion where I need to pack around a prohibited Colt Python .357 concealed with no picture ID of course, who's with me?