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04-23-2017, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rugatika
A concentrated kung-fu punch to the solar plexus will leave the bear dazed and confused long enough to make your escape. (probably)
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Only if the one throwing the concentrated Kung fu punch to the solar plexus is
KUNG FOO PANDA , and that's a bear also,
so there is another fear
It never ends
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04-23-2017, 02:11 PM
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04-25-2017, 09:53 AM
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pretty rare but it does happen . there was a bow hunter killed near Bergen a few years back was there not? Having said that every black bear Ive seen books it out of there . Just the one in its den stayed put
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04-25-2017, 10:23 AM
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Lmao nester. Thanks. There's a you tube commercial. Find and post up please.
About fresh fish . So the guy stalks bears in it and steals there fish right out of bears mouth / fist fight.
John west. Red salmon commercial. Lmao.
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04-25-2017, 11:41 AM
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So just a thought! If I was to be going out to a certain area that held Black or Brown bears I would be calling local F&W to see if they are aware of any bear activity or above normal bear activity. Conversation w/F&W would possibly give a guy a bit of a heads up in my mind prior to heading into bear country.
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04-25-2017, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wolf308
Lmao nester. Thanks. There's a you tube commercial. Find and post up please.
About fresh fish . So the guy stalks bears in it and steals there fish right out of bears mouth / fist fight.
John west. Red salmon commercial. Lmao.
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Easy to find!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMUOBBuPyXQ
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04-25-2017, 09:23 PM
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This is another good johnny West commercial that is relevant to bears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhl0OIaS6Lg
Footnote: I believe the bear that did this commercial lives at Innisfail's Discovery Wildlife Park.
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04-26-2017, 08:49 AM
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Grand cache area is one of the highest grizz numbers in the province along with Waterton park. Almost half the grizz in province in BMA 2 by Grand Cache.
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04-26-2017, 11:57 AM
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inside or outside tent
In places where a bear might be prowling around where is it safer to cook your bacon?
Inside a completely closed in tent?
Under a tarp with an open side?
Out in the open with no shelter at all?
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04-26-2017, 12:31 PM
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James Gary Shelton
Goggle James Gary Shelton and buy his books. Best bear defense books I have ever read. He recommends two cans of bear spray and a 12 gauge with slugs.
He investigated lots of bear encounters in B.C. I would like to take one of his courses on bear defense.
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04-26-2017, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by artie
Goggle James Gary Shelton and buy his books. Best bear defense books I have ever read. He recommends two cans of bear spray and a 12 gauge with slugs.
He investigated lots of bear encounters in B.C. I would like to take one of his courses on bear defense.
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X2. Very good writing.
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04-26-2017, 04:00 PM
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You still can't beat that Youtube video of the girl upset that the bear is destroying her kayak, and she's trying to reason with it. LOL She really should have went up to it and just try to lead it away.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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04-26-2017, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
After you drag your body up off the ground, empty your shorts call the cops, your good to go trust me no one is going to throw you in the cruiser stinking like that.
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I like it
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04-27-2017, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by elkdump
BS ! Share your opinion with Timothy Treadwell's and Amy Huguanard's families about Grizzlies just jostling and biting and being done with a victim !
That ONE grizzly ATE the both of them , and little was left but a human leg bone and part of spinal column, and some sneakers,
Grizzly is the TOP of the good chain, they eat everything else they choose to eat
black bears being common Grizzly snacks( Bearrittos) ) as well as the occasional tree planter seismic worker and armed hunters and fishing enthusiasts ,,,
You the human are pretty much the near the bottom of the food chain
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But most humans got a weapon between theirs ears...think, spray if that's all you got, shotty
I did say most humans...a few are special
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04-27-2017, 10:22 AM
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Here in Sask we don't need anything fancy like guns or spray, a simple wine bottle is all that neccessary to give that ol' bear a good azz whoppin.
If there is one thing that living here has taught me, most negative encounters seem to end up posiitve if you are drunk, so just bring a massive bottle of your finest and everything will be a-ok.
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04-27-2017, 11:06 AM
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alarm trip line
I usually camp alone and feel better if I have a horse or a dog with me to detect a bear before I do.
At night I hook up a trip line tied to an battery powered alarm that is in the tent with me. This way I maybe will have time get my bear spray ready. I will not leave my tent if a bear shows up. I have horizontal slit vents on all sides of my tarp shelter so I can watch a bear and with one hand put the spray can outside and spray him. Maybe not a good idea if he is close enough to bite my hand off.
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04-27-2017, 11:30 AM
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I set a perimeter of these up; on the ground and in the trees. I feel a weird vibe anytime when I'm in my tent, I cook one or all of these off.
YMMV
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Claymore_mine
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04-27-2017, 12:48 PM
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I use the same defense I do against cougars.
My good looks and charm.
So far, the only cougar attacks have been by really old, snaggle toothed ones that looked way better through beer glasses the night before, and the bears just want to talk about relationship issues over a few beer. I've escaped unscathed, except for the cloying scent of gross perfume/aftershave that sometimes clung to my clothes.
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04-27-2017, 03:17 PM
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Claymore.
Perfect. Never thought of that.
Getting on the phone now to wolverine
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04-27-2017, 03:54 PM
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You have to be careful with them though..........tinnitus.
You don't want that. Tinnitus.
Another note....Claymore's are no longer called claymores. Defensive Command Detonated Weapon (DCDW) C19
The claymore was renamed to meet the requirements of the Ottawa Accord. More then a name change, the mine can no longer be set up with a trip wire or other method other then command detonated.
"The Mine Ban Treaty permits Claymore-type mines (directional fragmentation) used in command-detonated mode. However, the treaty prohibits Claymore-type mines used in a victim-activated mode because the weapon meets the definition of an antipersonnel mine"
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04-27-2017, 04:11 PM
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A friend used to hunt elk and moose with me quite a bit for many years carried 60 rounds of .338 WinNag ammo on his person at all times in the bush, slept with a loaded .357 in the tent, and strung a 24 inches high 50,000 volt bear deterrent electric fence around the tent,,,
One September night , the hills were echoing with bugling elk , well the paranoid freak gets up and crawls out if the tent to take a pizz ,,,
Unloads a hot heavy stream on his own 50,000 volt bear fence, the shock knocks him 20 feet back on his azz, he screams so loud his echo came back from the hills for several minutes,
Damm near pizzed myself laughing,,
Paranoid freaks, gotta lovem ,
Oh, and he was a senior officer in the RCMP , more lmao,
Parinoid freaks
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04-28-2017, 09:23 AM
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Artie, I agree Shelton is a real expert on bear attacks, both black and grizz. His job was to train Park Wardens how to deal with aggressive bears and how to properly dispose of them with buckshot and slugs. I always thought Herrero was full of sh__, he always thought all bear attacks in Alberta were caused by garbage dumps in National parks, I think his books belong in the those dumps.
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