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08-14-2012, 04:20 PM
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The North Raven river has honest 30 inchers for those who can stay sane enough through all the fly eating willows and sink to your crotch mud.
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08-14-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by streamer express
Lol. wow, try battling a 30+ inch brown trout freight train, that will change your mind real f*&%^ing quick.
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seems that people are saying i need to downsize my gear to feel the fight better, so are you saying if i use a really light rod this is the case?? cuz i have never heard trout referred to as "freight trains"
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08-14-2012, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NSR Monger
Time for another battle on the forum, I personally can't see any reason at all to catch trout (not saying there isn't, I just don't see it) but I'd love for someone to try and convince me why they are fun for so many people to catch. They are so damn small!
No offense, but I see many pics and stories of catching these tiny guys, how can it be so fun to catch something that is so damn small?? Even a HUGE trout is like 13-15 inches, not big by any means compared to the other sport fish in Alberta
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Yeah, these "little" Rainbow trout are so boring....
Buddy of mine on Kootenay Lake:
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08-14-2012, 04:28 PM
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i fly fish for trout for the challange !
nothing like sight fishing for a big brown on a small creek
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08-14-2012, 04:32 PM
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Bring in bass.
Enough said.
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08-14-2012, 04:33 PM
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I'm not sure about the rest of the guys on here, but I love fishing trout because you can almost sense where they are in the river/creek/stream when you sneak up on them. Behind that rock, under that riffle, hanging along that seam, and then you toss your presentation just upstream of where you 'feel' the trout is going to be and when it passes through that spot and WHAM fish on... nothing more exciting.
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08-14-2012, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Calgary Dave
Yeah, these "little" Rainbow trout are so boring....
Buddy of mine on Kootenay Lake:
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yeah cuz that is really close to edmonton..........and yeah that is the average size of the trout posted on this site.......i never asked "can anyone go find me a picture of a big trout........."
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08-14-2012, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NSR Monger
Time for another battle on the forum, I personally can't see any reason at all to catch trout really close to Edmonton (not saying there isn't, I just don't see it) but I'd love for someone to try and convince me why they are fun for so many people to catch really close to Edmonton. They are so damn small! They are ok to eat but sure as hell no walleye! Can't imagine they fight a whole lot either.........is the only reason people like catching trout really close to Edmonton because they can be more colorful than other sport species in Alberta?? I'm talking about TARGETING trout really close to Edmonton.......
No offense, but I see many pics and stories of catching these tiny guys, how can it be so fun to catch something that is so damn small?? Even a HUGE trout caught really close to Edmonton is like 13-15 inches, not big by any means compared to the other sport fish in Alberta, or trout that are caught further away than 10 minutes from Edmonton
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There, I fixed your original post. NOW it makes sense...
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08-14-2012, 04:58 PM
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Quite a few of our southern/central alberta river hold 30+ inch browns and rainbows. maybe not all that common in some systems. Do some homwork, and put your time in on the water and you would be suprised what you might hook into. I agree there is nothing like sight fishing for big browns and raindows. Try swinging a big streamer at night or in the late fall on your favorite brown trout river/stream and you might tie into a " freight train". (If i could figure out how to post pictures i would show you).
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08-14-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NSR Monger
yeah cuz that is really close to edmonton..........and yeah that is the average size of the trout posted on this site.......i never asked "can anyone go find me a picture of a big trout........."
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Relax...geeze!! It was a light hearted joke.
You don't like fishing trout, dont. Some do, some don't. Stupid thread to begin with. Why ask a question to which you already have your own feelings about?
Are you related to Shawn?
Gah.
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08-14-2012, 05:10 PM
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We are saying trout get really BIG and are awsome sport fish, Thats what you asked isnt it "Why trout??".
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08-14-2012, 05:19 PM
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NSR you sure like trolling for arguments on this forum. Personally i target trout because I live in Calgary. If I lived in Edmonton i'd likely be hitting Wab or the NSR for Walleyes, Mooneye and Pike. I don't think there is anything more exciting than surface fishing during hopper season for big bows/browns and cut ties.
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08-14-2012, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NSR Monger
ok I'm glad people did not take this as a bash at trout fishers, it was an actual question, which i seem to get the jest of...........
I was not really including lakers which i guess is not fair, but i think you guys knew what i meant by trout.
I was saying a 15inch trout is HUGE cuz by most postings on this site people seem to post pics of their HUGE 15INCH trout.......not because that i personally have tried lots and only caught a 15inch........
I dont see the lb for lb comparison being useful, a goldeye fights very hard for its size, but still nothing like a 15lb pike from wab, and thats because you will never catch a 15lb goldeye!!! and yes i realize some smaller pike barrel roll when reeling them in. And I never said walleye fight lots, I think they give up pretty easy lol
So from the 20 something posts here is what I can conclude........
I should fish for trout because they are more difficult to catch than eyes or pike....
Trout are "nicer" looking as well as the environment you can usually find them in (no arguments there, maligne lake is much nicer then wab lol)
P.S. if i traveled so far and worked so hard for years to catch a 8inch trout, i would be extremely disappointed!
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If I happen to google and find the documentary I'll let you know. i don't think you would be dissapointed as the commercials were entertaining.
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08-14-2012, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Land-her
Bring in bass.
Enough said.
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X100
Nothing compares to a bass for all out fight lb for lb.
I will take a 25 lb plus pike hitting a top water over a trout on a fly anyday. If we had muskies and bass here I would gladly donate money to supply trout fishermen with flies and rods to keep the muskies and bass for myself! Lol
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08-14-2012, 06:12 PM
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I fish for all species, sturg, walleye, sauger, trout, burbot, perch, goldeye, mooneye, pike if I have to, and so on. If it lives in southern Alberta waters, I have fished for it.
I really don't mind heading down to the SSR and seeing what I can bring in cause it's 2 minutes from my house. And chasing jumbo perch is always a hoot as they taste great and the lake is not too far from home.
But, if I travel to fish, it's for trout. Nothing, and I mean Nothing beats fly fishing. The learning, the science/know how as to what bugs are out, what the fish are feeding on, where the fish are hiding, the technique of learning to cast etc. etc., always something to learn and improve upon. As far as trout size, I've landed a dozen over 25" this year, either on a fly rod, or ultralight spinning gear. I guess it depends where you fish.
I'm not prejudiced either, I was pike fishing yesterday, but they come in like a log. Sometimes I can't tell if it's weeds or a fish. And really no skill/technique to fishing with spinning gear. Pick a lure, chuck it, retrieve it. Maybe a twitch here or there, but nothing complicated about it at all. Even worse if you are bait fishing, hardest part is putting bait on the hook, woopdeedoo. Sure it's still fun when a fish is on, but like I said, nothing beats fly fishing in my books. You could fly fish for other species as well. I'd really like to target walleye on the fly some day. But tying on a #20 and catching a fish on it is pretty cool.
Try it once......or twice.
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08-14-2012, 06:17 PM
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I was trying braid couple years back and caught a 36" pike she pulled so hard and so tight. Then she dove for the bottom and ripped through the cabbage the braid sounded like piano wire ping ping ping as it ripped through cutting the weeds. Best fight ive had second to landing a 35" last week on 6lb fluoro on my 500 series spinner. Attached leaderless to a twister tail on a perch hook. the really big girls are old grandmas and they usually come up like logs.
But i can sure understand the scenery and connection to nature the flyboys have. Have to give it a try sometime but dont know how. Anyone willing to show me how?
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08-14-2012, 06:25 PM
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For me, trout fishing is different that pike/walley fishing.
Trout fishing is as much about the journey as it is about the catching.
Hiking into the eastslopes to fish a gin-clear stream with my 3wt and coax a trout out from an undercut bank or fallen tree to take a #20 dry I tied myself is a rush. It's about the the research/planning before hand, tying the flies, watching the pool after I get there to see what's up and matching the hatch, laying the perfect cast and drift all for that instant the water boils with the take. Follow that with the sizzle of the reel as the line is pulled out as I try to keep balance standing thigh deep in the stream and land the thing...all the while I'm in a place that few go and I am alone with my thoughts and can go days without seeing a soul.
I enjoy pike/walley fishing too, but it's not the same type of experience.
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08-14-2012, 07:07 PM
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I like fishing.
Spent last night on lower arrow pulling in 12-14" pea mouth chub (I think) and huge long nose suckers (I think).
Perfect night.
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08-14-2012, 07:40 PM
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trout are so stupid. Throw on anything that remotely looks like nothing but has something resembling a hook attached to it and you can catch them as long as it comes within 4 feet of their face...oh wait thats a pike...
Speaking of pike, I caught a 40 pound one last night on my offshore tuna setup...stupid thing didn't fight worth @#$%@...what were we talking about again?
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08-14-2012, 07:45 PM
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Monger FAILS again....Whomp whommmmp womp.
Am i the only one who's thankful that he feels the way he does?
Could you imagine him ruining your favorite holes?
Theres no urgency to change his mind from where i stand.
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08-14-2012, 07:54 PM
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Well said bigdaddy37!
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08-14-2012, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Land-her
Bring in bass.
Enough said.
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I wonder how many trouty boys would be open to bass and catfish and such if they knew the fun of it.
Most never will. Most only have trout on their brains.
Its the Alberta attitude that only trout will do.
I can recall many summer nights spent catfishing.
The long fight to bring in a monster.
Anyone who has traveled in the southern part of the US has probably had fried catfish (not for me) and would order it again.
I miss the fights, even the tiny cats and bass would put up.
Bass are a smart fish, there are a variety of methods of targeting them. At the end of the day they fight like crazy and will challenge you too.
But alas alberta trouty boys think that trout are the be all and end all and nothing anyone else says will convince them otherwise.
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08-14-2012, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMOM
I wonder how many trouty boys would be open to bass and catfish and such if they knew the fun of it.
Most never will. Most only have trout on their brains.
Its the Alberta attitude that only trout will do.
I can recall many summer nights spent catfishing.
The long fight to bring in a monster.
Anyone who has traveled in the southern part of the US has probably had fried catfish (not for me) and would order it again.
I miss the fights, even the tiny cats and bass would put up.
Bass are a smart fish, there are a variety of methods of targeting them. At the end of the day they fight like crazy and will challenge you too.
But alas alberta trouty boys think that trout are the be all and end all and nothing anyone else says will convince them otherwise.
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God Bless Alberta History.
There are trout, and then there are those coarse fish.
Trout are for gentlemen. Coarse fish are for others.
I like it that way.
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08-14-2012, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMOM
I wonder how many trouty boys would be open to bass and catfish and such if they knew the fun of it.
Most never will. Most only have trout on their brains.
Its the Alberta attitude that only trout will do.
I can recall many summer nights spent catfishing.
The long fight to bring in a monster.
Anyone who has traveled in the southern part of the US has probably had fried catfish (not for me) and would order it again.
I miss the fights, even the tiny cats and bass would put up.
Bass are a smart fish, there are a variety of methods of targeting them. At the end of the day they fight like crazy and will challenge you too.
But alas alberta trouty boys think that trout are the be all and end all and nothing anyone else says will convince them otherwise.
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with your vast knowledge about fishing, I guess you have never hooked up a 28" brown on a #20 fly with a 2# tippet?....go ahead and haul in your 6 # Bass with your 20# test line....sure sounds like fun....
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08-14-2012, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FishingMOM
I wonder how many trouty boys would be open to bass and catfish and such if they knew the fun of it.
Most never will. Most only have trout on their brains.
Its the Alberta attitude that only trout will do.
I can recall many summer nights spent catfishing.
The long fight to bring in a monster.
Anyone who has traveled in the southern part of the US has probably had fried catfish (not for me) and would order it again.
I miss the fights, even the tiny cats and bass would put up.
Bass are a smart fish, there are a variety of methods of targeting them. At the end of the day they fight like crazy and will challenge you too.
But alas alberta trouty boys think that trout are the be all and end all and nothing anyone else says will convince them otherwise.
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This could qualify as the most useless post of the year. Where are you gonna send the Alberta Trouty Boys for Cats and Bass? You should just shhhhhhh, and go back where you came from.
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08-14-2012, 08:15 PM
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NSR Monger you are comparing apples to oranges. Fly fishing is alot more skill based imo with the casting/knowing the hatch and so on. It not about how huge the fish is. That being said there are some massive trout in alberta, try tying into a 28'' bull trout on a 5wt rod. you will probably fail miserably at bringing it in.
trolling for lunker eyes and big pike is knowing the lake and knowing structure/depth while also timing bait fish runs/feeding cycles etc etc.
to each there own. One could arugue catching a 10lb+ walleye in alberta is more of a challenge then hunting a 25''+ brown. Dead wrong. Both are equally challenging and require vastly different skill sets.
Heres another type of example, consider the following;
A)Sure you can tie on an orange stimmie and pull in 20-30 nice cuts on a good day.
B)Sure you can anchor down on some nice structure and pull in 50+ decent walleye on a good day
A)But to be able to figure out that particular fly is producing and then finding what pools/runs/riffles/chutes the fish are holding in, all the while being able to present it properly to the trout takes its own type of skill.
B)But being able to find that spot, at the right time of day..while also knowing what lure and/or bait to use, and how to present that lure/bait also requires its own type of skill.
When all is said and done its apples and oranges. the two can't be compared.
My 2 cents
Oliver
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08-14-2012, 08:26 PM
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I make 3 trips a year into BC to catch big largemouth and smallmouth bass on the fly and have for easily 10 years. I love catchin Bass,and pike, they are a close second to trout, but growing up in southern alberta I just love our trout.
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08-14-2012, 08:27 PM
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I'm not much for trout fishing,but when I saw the thread called Price of Gold Rising,I can see why people love fishing for trout.
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08-14-2012, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ReconWilly
Monger FAILS again....Whomp whommmmp womp.
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x2 getting to be a regular occurence.....
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08-14-2012, 08:45 PM
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Lol @ comparing the fight of a mid-teen lb pike with a 15" trout. Next time you catch a 15" pike, let me know what kind of fight it puts up and how it compares to the fight of a 15" cutthroat or rainbow....
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