View Poll Results: 270 or 6.5 CM
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270
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71.89% |
6.5
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11-15-2023, 07:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Edmonton
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.270 all day. Quick, flat, little recoil, dirt naps are free.
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11-15-2023, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2021
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In general, probably a 270, however, I own a 6.5CM for the wife.
That being said, one of the worst recoiling rifles I've shot is my buddies 270 in a Husquavarna Lite. 3 shots with that and I'm done for the day. It was worse than the 6.5 lb complete package 300 win mag that I shot from another buddy.
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11-15-2023, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: edmonton
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My 270 hushquvana gets 150 grain accubonds its piled up moose deer elk and bears. Best shot was a Whitetail and 365 yards boom 20 feet and there it was
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11-16-2023, 06:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFitter
In general, probably a 270, however, I own a 6.5CM for the wife.
That being said, one of the worst recoiling rifles I've shot is my buddies 270 in a Husquavarna Lite. 3 shots with that and I'm done for the day. It was worse than the 6.5 lb complete package 300 win mag that I shot from another buddy.
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Lol, I have that rifle and with a decent recoil pad I dont think its anything crazy. Better than my wife's Savage Lady Hunter in the same caliber, better than my T3 in 30-06.... and WAY better than my Husky Lite in 30-06, which has no recoil pad.
My own suspicion is that the angle of the butplate is not quite right on these rifles, and this got altered when the recoil pad got installed on my .270win as I've never seen a Decelerator make such a huge difference before. With the '06 if I really try to isolate the source of my discomfort, its like the toe of the stock kind of jabs me, and sort of orienting my position just right can make a huge difference at the range.
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11-16-2023, 12:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,854
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My Kimber Mountain Ascent in a .270 Win right out of the box. Mounted the scope laser bore sited and shot at a hundred yrds.
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11-16-2023, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushleague
Lol, I have that rifle and with a decent recoil pad I dont think its anything crazy. Better than my wife's Savage Lady Hunter in the same caliber, better than my T3 in 30-06.... and WAY better than my Husky Lite in 30-06, which has no recoil pad.
My own suspicion is that the angle of the butplate is not quite right on these rifles, and this got altered when the recoil pad got installed on my .270win as I've never seen a Decelerator make such a huge difference before. With the '06 if I really try to isolate the source of my discomfort, its like the toe of the stock kind of jabs me, and sort of orienting my position just right can make a huge difference at the range.
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I would normally agree with you. 270 is normally a very mild recoiling cartridge. But this one rifle in particular, man, I'll pass on it any day of the week. I'm not sure why it's so bad. Even my buddy who owns it doesn't like shooting it much.
I agree with you, I think stock design plays a big part. That's one of the biggest reasons I didn't like my Tikka, I could get over the stock, it just didn't feel right. That being said, I've only changed the stock on one of rifles, but I'm looking at more, just want a better fit and feel.
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11-16-2023, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFitter
I would normally agree with you. 270 is normally a very mild recoiling cartridge. But this one rifle in particular, man, I'll pass on it any day of the week. I'm not sure why it's so bad. Even my buddy who owns it doesn't like shooting it much.
I agree with you, I think stock design plays a big part. That's one of the biggest reasons I didn't like my Tikka, I could get over the stock, it just didn't feel right. That being said, I've only changed the stock on one of rifles, but I'm looking at more, just want a better fit and feel.
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Recoil aside, as the 30-06 is pretty darn bad, those Husky Light carbines are my favorite hunting rifle. The weight and balance is good for carying all day as well as shooting offhand, and for me they are pretty much on target when the stock hits my shoulder.
So I shoot the .270 at the range, wear a heavy denim coat when I check the '06, and have been happily packing one or the other for the past 8 hunting seasons.
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Last edited by Bushleague; 11-16-2023 at 07:07 PM.
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11-17-2023, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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270 because Jack O’Connor never used 6.5 cm😁
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11-17-2023, 10:41 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Take it in a 270 then convert it to a 338-06!!
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11-17-2023, 10:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary Area
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What would Chuck Norris shoot?
I would take what ever Chuck Norris would shoot!
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11-18-2023, 05:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: onoway, Ab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markg
I would take what ever Chuck Norris would shoot!
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Chock Norris uses a 50 cal. Or his bare hands
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11-18-2023, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: West of Edmonton
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“If God shot a rifle he’d shoot a 270”
Al Baker rip
Nuff said
For hunting I’d go 270, but I’m old school, plus Al’s words still echo in my head often, even though I no longer have a 270
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11-20-2023, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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270 win every time out these 2 options, almost all 6.5's are gay. The Creedmoor is the most gay of them.
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11-20-2023, 10:27 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I'll take the short action all day long of the 6.5.......less recoil too !!
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11-20-2023, 12:56 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bcpappy
270 win every time out these 2 options, almost all 6.5's are gay. The Creedmoor is the most gay of them.
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Be gentle the 6.5s are just transitioning 😁
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11-20-2023, 01:24 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Edmonton/San Tan Valley,Arizona
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Originally Posted by fps plus
Be gentle the 6.5s are just transitioning 😁
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The 6.5 caliber was introduced well before the 270 Win so maybe it's the 270 who is transitioning.
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11-20-2023, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bcpappy
270 win every time out these 2 options, almost all 6.5's are gay. The Creedmoor is the most gay of them.
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Hey, they arent all gay... Swedes just kinda come off that way.
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11-20-2023, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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If you had to choose
This one’s not even close. 270 all the way!
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11-21-2023, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 63
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6.5 creed
After seeing what happened to my wife’s first doe. My vote is the 6.5 Creedmoor with a 127gr. LRX. I have 3 safes full of rifles all the way from 22-250 to a 416 Remington mag including a 270.
With the reduced recoil of the 6.5 and bullet damage, my 270 can’t match the damage of the her 6.5 creed.
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11-21-2023, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Caroline
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Originally Posted by 1973 Moose
After seeing what happened to my wife’s first doe. My vote is the 6.5 Creedmoor with a 127gr. LRX. I have 3 safes full of rifles all the way from 22-250 to a 416 Remington mag including a 270.
With the reduced recoil of the 6.5 and bullet damage, my 270 can’t match the damage of the her 6.5 creed.
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How is that even possible? Higher velocity and higher energy in a .270 yet a creedmoor inflicts more damage?
If one has a hard time with recoil as well as the extra cost of a few grains of powder....fill your boots.
I try to not pay any attention to these threads but if I had to choose between the 2 it would be the .270 all day every day. Higher velocity ='s higher ft/lbs of energy. Some have a hard time with those facts but it's pretty plain and easy to understand
As Roy said, speed kills
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11-21-2023, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Kelowna B.C.
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Would be interesting to also see the age group of voters, I turned 68 the other day and am partial to the 270, family hunted deer and moose for years.
I load for 17 or more calibres, so have tried many different rifles and chambering, but still like my 270.
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11-22-2023, 07:30 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2023
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Originally Posted by partsman
Would be interesting to also see the age group of voters, I turned 68 the other day and am partial to the 270, family hunted deer and moose for years.
I load for 17 or more calibres, so have tried many different rifles and chambering, but still like my 270.
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I'm 33 and I would vote for the 270. It was my first hunting rifle.
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11-25-2023, 02:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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270
270 !!!
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11-25-2023, 07:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainTi
How is that even possible? Higher velocity and higher energy in a .270 yet a creedmoor inflicts more damage?
If one has a hard time with recoil as well as the extra cost of a few grains of powder....fill your boots.
I try to not pay any attention to these threads but if I had to choose between the 2 it would be the .270 all day every day. Higher velocity ='s higher ft/lbs of energy. Some have a hard time with those facts but it's pretty plain and easy to understand
As Roy said, speed kills
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All part of the 6.5CM hype facts don’t matter.
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11-25-2023, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 1973 Moose
With the reduced recoil of the 6.5 and bullet damage, my 270 can’t match the damage of the her 6.5 creed.
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That makes no sense at all as far as damage goes , a sample size of one means nothing , put a 130 grain LRX
Into the 270 and the results would be identical for the course off say, 20 animals- especially when the difference is likely less that 250 FPS spread, w35 FOS actually when the numbers are plugged into Quickload.
Less recoil I can believe however .
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Last edited by catnthehat; 11-25-2023 at 07:36 AM.
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11-25-2023, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
That makes no sense at all as far as damage goes , a sample size of one means nothing , put a 130 grain LRX
Into the 270 and the results would be identical for the course off say, 20 animals- especially when the difference is likely less that 250 FPS spread, w35 FOS actually when the numbers are plugged into Quickload.
Less recoil I can believe however .
Cat
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the faster a bullet travels the greater the energy it creates. The higher the energy the further thru the animal (on identical shots of course) it travels thus creating more damage.
That extra 250 fps may punch that bullet thru the other side, which to me is a big win.
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11-25-2023, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainTi
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the faster a bullet travels the greater the energy it creates. The higher the energy the further thru the animal (on identical shots of course) it travels thus creating more damage.
That extra 250 fps may punch that bullet thru the other side, which to me is a big win.
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Exactly, but what 1973 Moose is stating is that the slower bullet does more damage!
If anything you would naturally see more damage from the 270 win of course using the same bullet- as long as everything else was the same, which it rarely is in the real world. I still will maintain that f a difference IS seen, the more damage will be from the 270 win.
As well,if one wants to pontificate about theories and Ballisitc gack, the 6.5 will naturally have a smaller meplat than the .277, so even if a person wanted to argue about penetration advantage of the 6.5 bullet, you would get more area damage from the .277
Bottom line- if the danged bullet is put where it is supposed to go, te results will be the same with either cartridge!
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11-25-2023, 09:58 AM
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Exit wound from a 145gr LRX started over 3200 FPS.
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11-25-2023, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainTi
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the faster a bullet travels the greater the energy it creates. The higher the energy the further thru the animal (on identical shots of course) it travels thus creating more damage.
That extra 250 fps may punch that bullet thru the other side, which to me is a big win.
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On the other hand, the extra 250fps may cause more expansion, which actually reduces penetration.
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11-25-2023, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
On the other hand, the extra 250fps may cause more expansion, which actually reduces penetration.
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This is true. Exactly why I prefer a heavy bullet with enough "zip" to fully expand and punch thru every time. More blood falls out the exit side
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