Danielle Smith

[Supergrit]

What’s the purpose to get rid of the rcmp. Cause she feels the federal government projects power through the rcmp?

[cody j]

Time to go back under the bridge

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

What’s the purpose to get rid of the rcmp. Cause she feels the federal government projects power through the rcmp?

There are many Albertans disappointed in the service from the RCMP and past events like high river have created public distrust for the organization. There are also many who believe they would benefit from a force that focuses more on local problems. Present roll some of the Federal RCMP are having in bill C-21 are not helping with public trust

Honestly in my opinion unfortunately because of the actions of a portion of the RCMP they have lost the respect of the people and have not displayed any attempt to improve their image. There is now unfortunately a large portion who no longer trust the RCMP making them a less effective force

We already have city police that are not RCMP and so do other provinces. This is not a crazy outlandish thing

Really as long as there is an effective police force on duty what should it matter if they are provincial police?

But it is seaming more and more you are just happy with how things are and are opposed to change

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

What’s the purpose to get rid of the rcmp. Cause she feels the federal government projects power through the rcmp?

Federal police Corporation that is corrupt, incompetent, and dishonest, and the Commissioner is a tool of the PMO....why would you want to get rid of a asset like that?

[Supergrit]

Originally Posted by cody j

Time to go back under the bridge

Not trolling this Daniel smith is proposing some bold moves. Trying to understand her reason and why some agree with her

[liketoshoot]

There is a lot that needs to be exposed, hopefully she does not hold back. She was not my first choice but so far happy with her determination. She will need to persevere through a boat load of misinformation, slander and resistance headed her way so she needs all the support she can get. Will be an interesting winter and spring!!

[IronNoggin]

Rex cuts to the heart of the matter:

When Trudeau, Singh and the Toronto media are all against Danielle Smith, you know she must be doing something right

In one fell swoop, the premier has managed to incite the ire of Canada's liberal elite

I have some very good news for you, Danielle Smith: over here in Toronto, the centre of the universe, your recent legislation — the Alberta sovereignty within a united Canada act — is being rebuked, dismissed and ridiculed.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/whe...omething-right

[Supergrit]

Policing is never going to satisfy the people all the time and mistakes will be made. The rcmp is great police force and good standard to follow. Should we have back woods police force like the us with a county sheriff.

The cost to have provincial police force would be more then the rcmp why would the province want the expense

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

Policing is never going to satisfy the people all the time and mistakes will be made. The rcmp is great police force and good standard to follow. Should we have back woods police force like the us with a county sheriff.

The cost to have provincial police force would be more then the rcmp why would the province want the expense

Not everyone shares your opinion of the RCMP clearly or it would not be such a political issue. Sadly the RCMP has given people reasons to feel the way they do without effort to correct it

If majority of Alberta shares your views we will continue to have RCMP if not well we may see the RCMP go

So better question what is wrong with DS putting forward an act to give Alberta a stronger voice with confederation?

[jstubbs]

Originally Posted by mac1983

She is laying out her platform in real time, in front of everyone to see.

The election is Monday May 26, the writ has been dropped.

Not understanding where your coming from, vote for who you want.

She is being more transparent than anyone could ask for.

Picture this: the NDP win the next general election. Notley governs for 3 years before stepping down, and through an internal party vote a far left environmental extremist becomes the party leader. They call a by-election in Edmonton-Strathcona riding and they're elected. They begin tabling bills of far left views and firing key people in Alberta Energy to "restructure" how resource extraction occurs here in AB.

Are you keeping this same perspective?

[Rancid Crabtree]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

What’s the purpose to get rid of the rcmp. Cause she feels the federal government projects power through the rcmp?

The reason to drop the RCMP contract is because they do at the core answer to political leaders in Ottawa. We have no ability to influence the decisions in Ottawa and that has been a issue for decades.

A provincial police will take priority instruction from the premier rather than the prime minister. We do have some ability to influence Edmonton.

The rcmp contract should be ended within a couple years and develop the Alberta Provincial Police. A investment well worth the cost to have more local accountability.

[mac1983]

Originally Posted by jstubbs

Picture this: the NDP win the next general election. Notley governs for 3 years before stepping down, and through an internal party vote a far left environmental extremist becomes the party leader. They call a by-election in Edmonton-Strathcona riding and they're elected. They begin tabling bills of far left views and firing key people in Alberta Energy to "restructure" how resource extraction occurs here in AB.

Are you keeping this same perspective?

That's what she did last time she got elected.

[jstubbs]

Originally Posted by mac1983

That's what she did last time she got elected.

Not what I asked.

[walking buffalo]

Some people are scared of change, especially when it involves increased personal responsibility, they just want to FEEL safe at any cost, to be told what to do.

Those that oppose or as they often say, "trying to understand" Danielle Smith reveal that the main concern is that they will be more responsible for themselves under these changes.

These people will unlikely change voluntarily, this is just not in their nature,
But they will comply when the changes happen, as this is their nature.

[Rancid Crabtree]

Originally Posted by jstubbs

Picture this: the NDP win the next general election. Notley governs for 3 years before stepping down, and through an internal party vote a far left environmental extremist becomes the party leader. They call a by-election in Edmonton-Strathcona riding and they're elected. They begin tabling bills of far left views and firing key people in Alberta Energy to "restructure" how resource extraction occurs here in AB.

Are you keeping this same perspective?

For what it’s worth.
I would have preferred the MLAs to have a vote of non confidence in Kenney and then vote on the new leader among themselves.
I think they were cowards for putting it back to the members and I’ve told a couple so.
If they had done so they would each be responsible to their constituents for the outcome. But most politicians are cowards who avoid accountability.
In the end the party members were left to pick a leader ( from some solid front runners).
It’s not reasonable to suggest a premier sit on her hands while the province burns waiting for a fresh mandate. We all know Notley would charge ahead if the roles were reversed.

[Supergrit]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

Not everyone shares your opinion of the RCMP clearly or it would not be such a political issue. Sadly the RCMP has given people reasons to feel the way they do without effort to correct it

If majority of Alberta shares your views we will continue to have RCMP if not well we may see the RCMP go

So better question what is wrong with DS putting forward an act to give Alberta a stronger voice with confederation?

I agree with a stronger voice the one act she is proposing i Read over it a little and looks like it doesn’t mean to separate just a stronger voice. Out right separation for Alberta would be a total disaster

[mac1983]

Originally Posted by jstubbs

Not what I asked.

Yes, because that is what elections are for.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

I agree with a stronger voice the one act she is proposing i Read over it a little and looks like it doesn’t mean to separate just a stronger voice. Out right separation for Alberta would be a total disaster

This is not about separation and she is looking for an alternative to separation trying to make Alberta as a member of confederation well trying to give Alberta a solid voice within it

As someone opposed to separation you should be a supporter of this as it is actually causing a portion of Alberta’s separation supporters to consider that there could be a positive future with Alberta stay part of the confederation

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Some people are scared of change, especially when it involves increased personal responsibility, they just want to FEEL safe at any cost, to be told what to do.

Those that oppose or as they often say, "trying to understand" Danielle Smith reveal that the main concern is that they will be more responsible for themselves under these changes.

These people will unlikely change voluntarily, this is just not in their nature,
But they will comply when the changes happen, as this is their nature.

This is pretty much it. People just want to be left alone and will not react until it either makes them angry or effects them personally. It effects me personally and I'm angry so have left that camp.

[chasingtail]

Originally Posted by sewerrat

I like her but I don’t agree with everything , like getting rid of the RCMP, the cost is way to big.
Just look at Surrey BC they got rid of the RCMP got their own city police force but they can not find anyone. They were hoping that those RCMP members would step over to the new city police and just a few did.

Alberta has lots of money. If we spend a little to much to get rid of Trudeaus goons so be it.

[chasingtail]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

Not trolling this Daniel smith is proposing some bold moves. Trying to understand her reason and why some agree with her

Well not everyone believes the Toronto media for one thing.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

It effects me personally and I'm angry so have left that camp.

Why?

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by ram crazy

Why?

I don't understand your question, can you elaborate. Maybe this helps, the camp I have left is the complacent, I will push back against socialist's, the woke, and those out to destroy this nation. I didn't believe it at first but it has become apparent that my Canada is under attack.

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I don't understand your question, can you elaborate. Maybe this helps, the camp I have left is the complacent, I will push back against socialist's, the woke, and those out to destroy this nation. I didn't believe it at first but it has become apparent that my Canada is under attack.

I thought you were talking on a personal note.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

Policing is never going to satisfy the people all the time and mistakes will be made. The rcmp is great police force and good standard to follow. Should we have back woods police force like the us with a county sheriff.

The cost to have provincial police force would be more then the rcmp why would the province want the expense

Ok, now I know you're trolling.

Either that, or you just came out of a 5 year long coma.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by ram crazy

I thought you were talking on a personal note.

The lack of health care (wait times) has effected me in a personal way. I also realize the NDP plan to throw more money at health care will solve nothing.

[Supergrit]

People made some good points here good discussion.
Thx for replies

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Supergrit

Policing is never going to satisfy the people all the time and mistakes will be made. The rcmp is great police force and good standard to follow. Should we have back woods police force like the us with a county sheriff.

The cost to have provincial police force would be more then the rcmp why would the province want the expense

We already have the sheriffs. Punt the RCMP organization as a whole and recruit the members that want to stay.

Why do you think police forces in the US are backwoods? Kinda like the way sheriffs and judges are elected. Means there is accountability

[Rancid Crabtree]

I agree that the USA system is actually superior.
A lot easier to remove a corrupt sheriff or judge than a political appointee.

[jungleboy]

Devils advocate here. The RCMP is seen as corrupt by many and some see a provincial police force as the answer.

Ontario has the OPP also seen as corrupt

Quebec has their own police force seen as corrupt

What is it that makes us believe an Alberta Provincial Police Force won’t ultimately be as corrupt as the others.

Is Police corruption inevitable? Absolute power etc,…

My guess is that an APP will initially be made up of RCMP that are already in the Province and prefer not to relocate. Therefore things will not change as much as you might imagine.

Food for thought.