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Curious as to what y'all think...
Not an Ellen fan.
Not against eating what one hunts.
Not against wearing what one hunts.
...however, given the fact (and only given the fact), that everyone knows that the world is watching and video-taping the seal hunt every time it happens, what would be so wrong with devising some sort of tool (a hand-gun type implement that shoots a retractable pin - similar to a nail gun) to harvest the seals?
Don't get me wrong, I personally don't have an issue with seeing blood, and with harvesting an animal with an arrow, (which can, in some cases, result in quite a bloody scene - especially in the snow), but, as a hunter, I take measures (as much as possibl
e) to ensure that that scene does not play itself out in the open public eye.
When I watch the seal hunt, I have to admit, that for any non-hunter-type person watching that, it does look pretty brutal the way they pickaxe those seals - it can look somewhat barbaric. (Can you imagine killing a deer like that and posting it to you-tube?)
This brings me back to the question; given the fact that they basically walk up to the seals to harvest them, why not look at using a different "tool of harvesting" and take some of the steam out of the "anti-sealers" momentum?
Admittedly, I don't have all the facts on seal hunting methods - maybe there IS only one way to harvest them?  |
pick ax breaks, you still have a club. pin gun breaks you have small moving parts to repair in the arctic cold. plus think of the cost.
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03-28-2014, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Artist
Curious as to what y'all think...
Not an Ellen fan.
Not against eating what one hunts.
Not against wearing what one hunts.
...however, given the fact (and only given the fact), that everyone knows that the world is watching and video-taping the seal hunt every time it happens, what would be so wrong with devising some sort of tool (a hand-gun type implement that shoots a retractable pin - similar to a nail gun) to harvest the seals?
Don't get me wrong, I personally don't have an issue with seeing blood, and with harvesting an animal with an arrow, (which can, in some cases, result in quite a bloody scene - especially in the snow), but, as a hunter, I take measures (as much as possible) to ensure that that scene does not play itself out in the open public eye.
When I watch the seal hunt, I have to admit, that for any non-hunter-type person watching that, it does look pretty brutal the way they pickaxe those seals - it can look somewhat barbaric. (Can you imagine killing a deer like that and posting it to you-tube?)
This brings me back to the question; given the fact that they basically walk up to the seals to harvest them, why not look at using a different "tool of harvesting" and take some of the steam out of the "anti-sealers" momentum?
Admittedly, I don't have all the facts on seal hunting methods - maybe there IS only one way to harvest them? |
A lifetime ABA member? We as hunters need to stop the YouTube crap, it hasn't served us well at all!! We also need to not throw each other under the bus
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No wonder some of the ABA crowd find it so hard to become proficient with a spear, they are throwing them backwards.
The lack of feathers must confuse some of them
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03-28-2014, 09:26 PM
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A lifetime ABA member? We as hunters need to stop the YouTube crap, it hasn't served us well at all!! We also need to not throw each other under the bus
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Besides, it doesn't make a tinker's damn what tool is used, it's the act itself that they cannot understand and hate.
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03-28-2014, 09:59 PM
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Besides, it doesn't make a tinker's damn what tool is used, it's the act itself that they cannot understand and hate.
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Yup, bingo, hit it right on the head!
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03-28-2014, 10:26 PM
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A lifetime ABA member? We as hunters need to stop the YouTube crap, it hasn't served us well at all!! We also need to not throw each other under the bus
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...wasn't even aware of something called the "ABA". Wasn't promoting posting hunts on YouTube either - just making a comparison (probably didn't word it quite properly). Also, I don't think hunters critiquing the ethicality of each others' hunting practices is anything new, (it happens all the time on this forum), nor does it constitute throwing each other under any bus.
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03-29-2014, 08:11 AM
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Sealskin
Sadly I'm down to my last pair of sealskin mittens. I wear them over a light pair of gloves for winter snow plowing on the quad or my "cabless" jd tractor. They are by far the warmest / water repelent cold weather hand gear I have found.
I will be contacting some friends in the eastern Arctic when I need more.
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03-29-2014, 12:23 PM
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I think I'm gonna tweet that link to Ellen if you don't mind rug
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03-29-2014, 12:26 PM
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I think I'm gonna tweet that link to Ellen if you don't mind rug
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You should also write the executive producer of the Ellen Show @ ed.glavin@ellentv.com
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03-29-2014, 12:28 PM
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I think I'm gonna tweet that link to Ellen if you don't mind rug
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By all means. I don't tweet. 
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03-29-2014, 12:56 PM
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oops.
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03-29-2014, 01:29 PM
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I'm more of a public display of revulsion type. A email changes nobody's mind. The producer only cares about $$$
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03-29-2014, 01:54 PM
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I'm more of a public display of revulsion type. A email changes nobody's mind. The producer only cares about $$$
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Unless he gets bombarded,, twitter is ignorable and Twitterites (those who command a following of a million followers or more) have had other twitter accts removed just-like-that,, neat eh?
Watch Ellen, take note of the commercials, then write to those companies of your/our campaign of outing hypocrites by act of product boycott.
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03-29-2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gust
Unless he gets bombarded,, twitter is ignorable and Twitterites (those who command a following of a million followers or more) have had other twitter accts removed just-like-that,, neat eh?
Watch Ellen, take note of the commercials, then write to those companies of your/our campaign of outing hypocrites by act of product boycott.
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Good ideas gust
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03-30-2014, 02:43 PM
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I'd wear a sealskin parka if I could afford one! Considering they sell for $3000+, you'd swear the seal industry is thriving and not struggling like they claim
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03-30-2014, 06:01 PM
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I'd wear a sealskin parka if I could afford one! Considering they sell for $3000+, you'd swear the seal industry is thriving and not struggling like they claim
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Yea wish I could afford one also, I had sealskin boots the I wore our, very warm. Would love a nice vest for those cold days.
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03-30-2014, 06:07 PM
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...you'd swear the seal industry is thriving and not struggling like they claim
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With little market for their skins because of the EU ban on their products, the Inuit are struggling indeed.
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03-30-2014, 07:14 PM
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What we can do is bombard this guys email with Cabers post, so that she address it on her TV show where the crowd sqeeeeeals and screams at every burp and huff she makes.
He is the executive producer of the show.
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03-31-2014, 06:39 AM
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Gosh I would love to, but I think the only thing I can afford on there is the bow tie or key chain. thousands for a coat isn't in my budget. But ill hae ot investigate other seal sources.
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fishing regulations and facts on fish handling
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