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10-16-2018, 04:32 PM
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Well this can't be good for any of us hunters
Idaho wildlife official resigns after killing baboon family
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/idaho-w...mily-1.4136007
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10-16-2018, 04:36 PM
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Saw that on facebook, as soon as I saw the tile of the post "Hunter murders whole baboon family" I moved along , didn't even open that garbage.
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10-16-2018, 05:44 PM
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Another reminder to think before you post pictures...social media is not the sportsman’s friend these days.
It’s really disappointing that the hunting community can’t seem to get the truth out there over the anti-hunting rhetoric.
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10-16-2018, 05:52 PM
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Hunters need to stop posting pics. Send your kill shots to family and close friends thats it. People can not handle this stuff. Think strategically. In the commercials of the animal agriculture industry you see happy little animals in a field or wonderfully package meat at the grocery store.....nothing in between.
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10-16-2018, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearbreath
Hunters need to stop posting pics. Send your kill shots to family and close friends thats it. People can not handle this stuff. Think strategically. In the commercials of the animal agriculture industry you see happy little animals in a field or wonderfully package meat at the grocery store.....nothing in between.
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Couldn't agree more. 90% of social media is sheer lunacy, why add to it?
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10-16-2018, 06:44 PM
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I think what the guy did was send the photos in an email as opposed to posting them on social media, it would appear that the effect was the same
Can't say I agree with the idea of hiding what we do, but discretion is certainly warranted. Consider your audience but there will always be some nut job who will take offence to what you put out there
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10-16-2018, 06:52 PM
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I have posted many animals I have shot here on this forum since I joined... But because of this ever increasing anti-hunting issue, I havent posted any this year or wont be doing so in future years. It sucks!!! I dont know what it is about looking at peoples pics, especially when they are accompanied by a story, but I love them!! But looking out for our better interests as sportsmen we are better off only showing them to close friends and family. Look back to before social media.... lots of the antis never even knew hunting and killing animals existed so they werent antis. Now with it splattered all over facebook and such, these niaeve people decide to make a fuss about hunting because we are giving them a reason to. Dont get me wrong, I am a proud hunter and I am proud of my CANADIAN heritage (Thats right! Hunting and trapping are a huge part of our heritage!) But Id be willing to bet that if hunters stopped posting pics online(forums, social media or anywhere else) the anti crowd would forget that hunting ever existed within about a decade. And we wouldnt have to fear for the future of our sport.
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10-16-2018, 07:38 PM
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I gather baboons are actually considered a pest in some places and can border on dangerous game if you shoot one and the troop decides to get even.
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10-16-2018, 08:03 PM
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Well this can’t be good
Agreed, hunters need to quit feeling the need to show the whole world their kill photos. Just show your friends. By the way, in Africa baboons are mostly considered vermon, and are generally shot at most every chance by locals.
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10-16-2018, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Z7Extreme
I have posted many animals I have shot here on this forum since I joined... But because of this ever increasing anti-hunting issue, I havent posted any this year or wont be doing so in future years. It sucks!!! I dont know what it is about looking at peoples pics, especially when they are accompanied by a story, but I love them!! But looking out for our better interests as sportsmen we are better off only showing them to close friends and family. Look back to before social media.... lots of the antis never even knew hunting and killing animals existed so they werent antis. Now with it splattered all over facebook and such, these niaeve people decide to make a fuss about hunting because we are giving them a reason to. Dont get me wrong, I am a proud hunter and I am proud of my CANADIAN heritage (Thats right! Hunting and trapping are a huge part of our heritage!) But Id be willing to bet that if hunters stopped posting pics online(forums, social media or anywhere else) the anti crowd would forget that hunting ever existed within about a decade. And we wouldnt have to fear for the future of our sport.
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You can't sweep what we do under the rug. Posting pictures on hunting forums (like AO) is about as safe as it gets from any repercussions from anti-hunting groups or other idiots. You're not using your real name on this site and if you are not inclined to put yourself in the picture don't. Just sayin' that if you post a story of an excellent hunt......we want to see the pics...….or it didn't happen lol.
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10-16-2018, 09:34 PM
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So the answer to anti hunters is to hide in the shadows and act ashamed of what you do? No wonder the NDP got control of Alberta.
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10-16-2018, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BCSteel
So the answer to anti hunters is to hide in the shadows and act ashamed of what you do? No wonder the NDP got control of Alberta.
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Well then keep shoving it in their face then, that strategy is working well isn’t it.
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10-16-2018, 11:58 PM
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Once upon a time some dude killed a bear with a spear in Alberta and.....well,y’all know how that went.
People been killing bears in Alberta with spears for milleniae,was never an issue until YouTube.
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10-17-2018, 12:54 AM
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Gone Hunting
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Originally Posted by BCSteel
So the answer to anti hunters is to hide in the shadows and act ashamed of what you do? No wonder the NDP got control of Alberta.
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Maybe there is another answer.
My dad did not take photos of animals he harvested because his mindset was about providing for his family, not about bragging rights.
So maybe we need to change our way of thinking a tiny bit.
Then we can enjoy posting photos of camp life, and the whole experience rather then just kill shots.
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10-17-2018, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CNP
You can't sweep what we do under the rug. Posting pictures on hunting forums (like AO) is about as safe as it gets from any repercussions from anti-hunting groups or other idiots. You're not using your real name on this site and if you are not inclined to put yourself in the picture don't. Just sayin' that if you post a story of an excellent hunt......we want to see the pics...….or it didn't happen lol.
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x2 WE LIVE in FREE COUNTRY?
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10-17-2018, 05:52 AM
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I hunt for meat...but a nice set of antlers is o.k too.
I do not believe in killing things unless you plan on eating it? Or unless it's a pest and causing damage or is over-populated.
Others hunt for strictly for trophies.
Well I do not agree with Trophy Hunts I realize that these hunts, especially in Africa, provide employment to people that would otherwise might turn to poaching for a livleyhood.
The antis do not understand the story behind these hunts....that's the problem.
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10-17-2018, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 350 mag
I hunt for meat...but a nice set of antlers is o.k too.
I do not believe in killing things unless you plan on eating it? Or unless it's a pest and causing damage or is over-populated.
Others hunt for strictly for trophies.
Well I do not agree with Trophy Hunts I realize that these hunts, especially in Africa, provide employment to people that would otherwise might turn to poaching for a livleyhood.
The antis do not understand the story behind these hunts....that's the problem.
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X2. I hunt strictly for meat but if a nice set of antlers wanders by I’m not going to say no to it.
What I believe was the blowup issue for this incident is the fact that he had almost certainly, from the photo, shot a mother and child baboon and then grinned from ear to ear, sending the photo around as a trophy. Do we really think the backlash wouldn’t be the exact same if someone in Canada legally shot a doe and spotted fawn and posted it on the web?
Although legal, it might have been better to not send that one photo probably.
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10-17-2018, 06:43 AM
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Well then keep shoving it in their face then, that strategy is working well isn’t it.
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It is, for the left wing socialist nut jobs because people just like you are afraid to stand up for what they believe in.
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
Maybe there is another answer.
My dad did not take photos of animals he harvested because his mindset was about providing for his family, not about bragging rights.
So maybe we need to change our way of thinking a tiny bit.
Then we can enjoy posting photos of camp life, and the whole experience rather then just kill shots.
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The perfect not-so-subtle my ethics are better than yours jab.
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10-17-2018, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by West O'5
Once upon a time some dude killed a bear with a spear in Alberta and.....well,y’all know how that went.
People been killing bears in Alberta with spears for milleniae,was never an issue until YouTube.
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There was antis and protester types long before YouTube. Don’t kid yourself.
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10-17-2018, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
There was antis and protester types long before YouTube. Don’t kid yourself.
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What happened back then is irrelevant. One bad picture or video reaches millions in days and our policies are being written based on public opinion. We have to adapt as well.
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10-17-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BCSteel
It is, for the left wing socialist nut jobs because people just like you are afraid to stand up for what they believe in.
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I would bet a person who shows thoughtful restraint and discipline, when posting pics for the world to see, cares far more for the future of hunting then you might think.
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10-17-2018, 07:56 AM
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Gone Hunting
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Originally Posted by BCSteel
It is, for the left wing socialist nut jobs because people just like you are afraid to stand up for what they believe in.The perfect not-so-subtle my ethics are better than yours jab.
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ROFL If you only knew how wrong you are!!!
For my dad it had nothing whatever t do with ethics, believe me. The man never bought a hunting license in his life.
It was simply a matter of not caring what others thought about his hunting skills or his masculinity. Which seems to me to be the motivation for posting a lot of things on the net these days.
I mean, men Ooo and Awww over some shiny rifle that cost tens of thousands of dollars but not so much over a nice looking Lee Enfield. Why is that?
Does one kill faster then the other?
Now I'm not saying there is anything illegal about such attitudes, or anything inherently wrong with them either.
But maybe, for hunting sake, it's time to shelve some of that testosterone driven hoopla and get back to the basics of why we hunt.
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10-17-2018, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KegRiver
Maybe there is another answer.
My dad did not take photos of animals he harvested because his mindset was about providing for his family, not about bragging rights.
So maybe we need to change our way of thinking a tiny bit.
Then we can enjoy posting photos of camp life, and the whole experience rather then just kill shots.
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I think you’re right, there’s more to hunting than the photo of our kills. Lots of folks consider it disrespectful to do that.
I’ve been on the soapbox for a long time, explaining to hunters that we’re harming ourselves with these photos. I’m glad that some guys are realizing the truth of this.
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10-17-2018, 08:17 AM
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Come on, in a society where using the wrong pronoun to address someone, is an issue, what do you expect ?
Grizz
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10-17-2018, 09:35 AM
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The guy is a complete IDIOT.
Making statements like i shot a whole family ......way to go *******!
Be it Elk Deer or baboons...... Statements like this are destroying our heritage and traditions and now used sgainst us .
Way to go clown!
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10-17-2018, 09:35 AM
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Saw that on facebook, as soon as I saw the tile of the post "Hunter murders whole baboon family" I moved along , didn't even open that garbage.
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Yup.
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10-17-2018, 11:48 AM
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Social media is basically a venue for recreational outrage of all types. We should be sharing pics of camp and glassing spots and butchering and even the odd grip and grin kill shot. But give it a little thought if you decide you want to make things public.
Baboons are like a cross between coyotes and habituated black bears and there’s nothing wrong with shooting them - but they do look a lot like humans. So while I have a lot of sympathy for the guy who posts an Alberta cougar and gets reamed by the former PM’s wife, I don’t have a lot of sympathy for someone who gets dumped on for posting pics of what looks a lot like a dead human family, right down to the kid.
I LOVE hunting pics - hell I’d shoot a baboon myself if I got a chance - but I found that photo pretty gross.
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10-17-2018, 03:57 PM
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It is indeed a sad situation nowadays with all the backlash on social media. I do not post much of my hunting photos because i know too many liberals who voice what they like and don't. I don't want to lose any friends over an activity that doesn't involve them because i have a strong head and ill flip the bird and send them on their way.... so ill refrain and talk about it to many people and if they chose to see then i will show them.
This guy who hunted animals in Africa... i feel for the poor guy. Probably saved a bunch of money and had an amazing time harvesting animals just to come back to people ruining the enjoyment. The whole world is becoming a place where you cant be yourself anymore on media because there is some pathetic individual waiting to over step the boundary of their mundane lives. It doesn't seem to only happen to the hunting community. Its everywhere from parents being shamed to pretty much anything you can think of will have some spoil sport getting their panties in a bunch.
rant over...
I probably should have not read the link. lol
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10-17-2018, 04:15 PM
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There are tourists that come here and absolutely adore gophers (Richardson ground squirrels). They’re shocked that we would consider such “cute little ground puppies” (as on American called them) pests. Line up a bunch that you’ve taken out with your .22, take a photo and post it online. I’ll bet one would get immediate death threats from every part of the world. Safer just to enjoy the day with your kids and/or buddies.
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10-17-2018, 11:15 PM
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I wouldn’t really consider a commissioner an official per se. they are civilians appointed by the governor to represent the various industries affected by fish and game activities which in turn approve the various regulations. He in and of himself couldn’t go write a ticket, seize game or make an arrest which is what I would qualify as an official.
Either way yeah probably not the best decision he ever made and I’m sure he and his business will suffer from his lack of judgement. This is one of the reasons I give the yes it may be legal but not ethical and portrays hunters in a bad light talk during hunters Ed presentations.
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