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No! I 100% disagree. This is about draining swamp. Democrats against trump (naturally), Regular republicans (bush's,) cannot stand him, Neo Conservative (McCain) are war monger they cannot stand him and Trumpians who love him. This is why cannot repeal Obamacare. Fact is you have a Private industry person with no ties to Washington, controlling Swamp creatures whom have infested American politics for last 40 years. Trump may/may not be able to pop this pimple. The resistance is strong, on all sides. Media is in bed with democrats, therefore all you see, blame trump for everything 24/7. America needs to crash and reset. There is no other possible positive scenario. Sooner this happens, then better for America.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...s/trump-chaos/
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^^ This all Day & almost 9 months long...all the Haters still playing Checkers..
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08-01-2017, 10:14 AM
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He's playing the swamp creatures like a fiddle.
The real purpose of the Obamacare repeal and replace was to expose the swamp creatures in the Republican party.
Looks like he's done a good job of that.
The truth is Obamacare can be eliminated by executive order so long as POTUS does not create new law when doing so.
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What is his next move? If you see his plan so clearly you must know what is next.
What makes a swamp creature? Surely he knows who is who. Exposing them should not require him to be this creative.
Playing with alot of peoples lives with this game.
Did the MOOCH really close up shop, divorce his wife and move for this job.
Was he in on the plan or is he a casualty. Awful cold if he is just a casualty.
Even for a guy that I would describe with the same words he used for Priebus.
American politics, dont really affect me, other than the fallout.
Hoping for some stability sometime soon.
I do like Kelly, maybe some hope for a stable course to come and just get to work?
I agree with Imtada, Trump is trying to change the establishment, however in my opinion, its not going according to plan. His methods wont work.
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08-01-2017, 10:37 AM
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Correct
Not a word about Russians or Kushner in days
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08-01-2017, 11:23 AM
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You've got a crush on a very dysfunctional guy......
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You have a strange fixation with insinuating that members here are gay.
Twice in a week.
Way to go you tolerant progressive, well done!
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08-01-2017, 11:26 AM
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300 million people in the US. At the rate things are going, chances are good that most of them will have a stint in a Trump cabinet position at some point during the next four years.
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08-01-2017, 11:32 AM
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300 million people in the US. At the rate things are going, chances are good that most of them will have a stint in a Trump cabinet position at some point during the next four years.
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Better than the odds of getting a goat draw in Alberta.
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08-01-2017, 11:39 AM
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Redfrog delivers! That is a good one
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08-01-2017, 11:40 AM
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He's playing the swamp creatures like a fiddle.
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Seems to be the reverse. He hasn't achieved any of his objectives or promises, is under investigation, the courts aren't backing his decisions, and he has had to fire or run off half his own appointees.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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^ Common now, there is a hidden genius in that.
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08-01-2017, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MAC
What is his next move? If you see his plan so clearly you must know what is next.
What makes a swamp creature? Surely he knows who is who. Exposing them should not require him to be this creative.
Playing with alot of peoples lives with this game.
Did the MOOCH really close up shop, divorce his wife and move for this job.
Was he in on the plan or is he a casualty. Awful cold if he is just a casualty.
Even for a guy that I would describe with the same words he used for Priebus.
American politics, dont really affect me, other than the fallout.
Hoping for some stability sometime soon.
I do like Kelly, maybe some hope for a stable course to come and just get to work?
I agree with Imtada, Trump is trying to change the establishment, however in my opinion, its not going according to plan. His methods wont work.
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The Mooch was a suicide bomber that took out 2 deep state operatives for Trump and didn't charge a dime for his services.
Everything's going according to plan,congress calling for a special prosecutor to investigate Comey ,Lynch,and Clinton,which will be announced in the not to distant future.
Obamas unmasking scandle picking up steam.
Fusion GPS ties to Russian Goverment and Comey coming to light.
The arest of Imran Awan last week which I predicted a couple of weeks ago.
All bad news for the deep state and a lot of congressmen as their ties to Awan will soon be exposed.
And Obamacare will be eliminated one way or another.
If the Senate takes a recess Trump will fill a lot of posts that at present are being slow walked by the senate.
Have a nice day
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Seems to be the reverse. He hasn't achieved any of his objectives or promises, is under investigation, the courts aren't backing his decisions, and he has had to fire or run off half his own appointees.
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He's still the POTUS and will be for the next 8 years.
Don't take it to hard as it might not be good for your mental health
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08-01-2017, 12:00 PM
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^ Common now, there is a hidden genius in that.
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LOL yes, if he's actually a Democrat mole with instructions to destroy the Republican party for the next 20 years.... I wouldn't want to be going into midterm elections as a Republican when you control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency and can't get anything done. You don't have any excuses.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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He's still the POTUS and will be for the next 8 years.
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Your confidence in his reelection in light of historically low approval ratings and the inability to get anything done is... well, cute and heart-warming.
I don't have a problem with a lot of his promises, but as he has shown with his own cabinet, when a guy can't deliver, you get rid of him. He's the Apprentice President, and he's not cutting it. That's not me saying that. That's a large majority of Americans as measured by a multitude of approval rating polls. You know what happens on the Apprentice.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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Your confidence in his reelection in light of historically low approval ratings and the inability to get anything done is... well, cute and heart-warming.
I don't have a problem with a lot of his promises, but as he has shown with his own cabinet, when a guy can't deliver, you get rid of him. He's the Apprentice President, and he's not cutting it. That's not me saying that. That's a large majority of Americans as measured by a multitude of approval rating polls. You know what happens on the Apprentice.
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Same pollster's that predicted a Hilary win
Great leaders give people the chance to get the job done ,when they fail their let go.
As for getting things done he's done a lot through executive order.
As for his bigger promises give the man some time he's only been on the job for 6 months.
Obamacare will be gone soon one way or another,then on to tax cuts.
If your into polls
Poll done by Democrats shows
Even after six months of shambolic Republican governance, Democrats are still viewed as an unacceptable alternative to many persuadable voters in middle America.
Those were the sobering findings of a Democratic survey commissioned by the party-backed House Majority PAC, which Politico and McClatchy first reported. The poll surveyed working-class white voters in pivotal districts that Democrats are targeting in the midterms.
Despite the Trump turmoil in Washington, Republicans held a 10-point lead on the generic ballot (43-33 percent) among these blue-collar voters. Democrats hold a whopping 61 percent disapproval rating among these voters, with only 32 percent approving. Even Trump’s job-approval rating is a respectable 52 percent with the demographic in these swing districts.
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08-01-2017, 02:35 PM
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What makes a swamp creature?
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Glad you asked..
Awan Brothers Helped Wasserman Schultz Take
Out Bernie - Make Disguised Calls
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You have a strange fixation with insinuating that members here are gay.
Twice in a week.
Way to go you tolerant progressive, well done!
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Oh I'm not a progressive by any means. I just find trump and his crazy cheerleaders embarrassing to normal conservatives.
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Seems to be the reverse. He hasn't achieved any of his objectives or promises, is under investigation, the courts aren't backing his decisions, and he has had to fire or run off half his own appointees.
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Apparently that is all part of his grand plan....now if he could just get another war started
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08-01-2017, 04:06 PM
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Oh I'm not a progressive by any means. I just find trump and his crazy cheerleaders embarrassing to normal conservatives.
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Just curious why you would care what is embarrassing to normal conservatives? I wouldn't think a liberal would want anything else.
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Oh I'm not a progressive by any means. I just find trump and his crazy cheerleaders embarrassing to normal conservatives.
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What an absolute brilliant observation.
I bow down to your stunning intellect.
I bow facing in the other direction of course.
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What an absolute brilliant observation.
I bow down to your stunning intellect.
I bow facing in the other direction of course.
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Ouch !
Speaking about intellect
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Just curious why you would care what is embarrassing to normal conservatives? I wouldn't think a liberal would want anything else.
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So everyone that thinks Trump and his followers are crazy is a "Liberal"??
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So everyone that thinks Trump and his followers are crazy is a "Liberal"??
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No, but not one of your posts has given me the impression that you should call yourself a conservative.
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So everyone that thinks Trump and his followers are crazy is a "Liberal"??
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No ..........just confused.
Anything beyond checkers mystifies them.
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08-01-2017, 04:29 PM
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Newview, why are you so caught up on what political party a guy votes for? Do you not think that someone may feel that a leader of one's own political party can be an idiot?
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Newview, why are you so caught up on what political party a guy votes for? Do you not think that someone may feel that a leader of one's own political party can be an idiot?
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My use of the term liberal and conservative are not meant to imply affiliation with political parties, but rather general worldviews.
I genuinely find it interesting how many people are very liberal but because they have some conservative fiscal leanings they label themselves a conservative. It was not always that way.
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My use of the term liberal and conservative are not meant to imply affiliation with political parties, but rather general worldviews.
I genuinely find it interesting how many people are very liberal but because they have some conservative fiscal leanings they label themselves a conservative. It was not always that way.
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Fair enough.
My personal opinion, and I offer this as a member, not a mod, is that I think people put too much emphasis on those two words. They are way too limiting, lend themselves to stereotypes, and end up pitting people who have much in common against each other all too frequently, and most often are used in a derogatory fashion. The reality is that when you drill down, most peoples' worldviews are actually more complex than a square box, which those terms essentially are. As well, peoples' views change and evolve over time, moving back and forth over different issues, sometimes in a short period.
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Fair enough.
My personal opinion, and I offer this as a member, not a mod, is that I think people put too much emphasis on those two words. They are way too limiting, lend themselves to stereotypes, and end up pitting people who have much in common against each other all too frequently, and most often are used in a derogatory fashion. The reality is that when you drill down, most peoples' worldviews are actually more complex than a square box, which those terms essentially are. As well, peoples' views change and evolve over time, moving back and forth over different issues, sometimes in a short period.
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I agree. They are polarizing terms, and often misused or their meanings misconstrued.
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My use of the term liberal and conservative are not meant to imply affiliation with political parties, but rather general worldviews.
I genuinely find it interesting how many people are very liberal but because they have some conservative fiscal leanings they label themselves a conservative. It was not always that way.
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That is true. Used to be true conservatives were not just fiscally so. Keep the negro's and natives out of our schools, and the women at home not voting, and only whites at the golf course. Oh for the grand old days....eh.
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That is true. Used to be true conservatives were not just fiscally so. Keep the negro's and natives out of our schools, and the women at home not voting, and only whites at the golf course. Oh for the grand old days....eh.
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