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So Scott. What percentage of hospitals, in the US now, are filling up? Or how many hospitals are at capacity with Covid patients?
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/healt...day/index.html
5 days old so it is even worse now.
So can you provide links as to how counties with dramatically increasing Covid infections are having a great time with business as usual, low hospitalizations and tons of capacity?
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/healt...day/index.html
5 days old so it is even worse now.
So can you provide links as to how counties with dramatically increasing Covid infections are having a great time with business as usual, low hospitalizations and tons of capacity?
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So less than 1%?
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07-12-2020, 12:27 PM
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So less than 1%?
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Super wrong. Read and see.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/healt...day/index.html
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07-12-2020, 12:35 PM
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So less than 1%?
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Just in Florida 84% of ICU beds were full.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...-percent-full/
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07-12-2020, 12:41 PM
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Many don't realize that these patients aren't the run of the mill cardiac or cancer patients. EVERY SINGLE covid patient requires isolation. The amount of stress on each facility is magnified by that fact alone. Every covid patient displaces other sick patients by a factor of X. Give that some thought when you can't get get into a hospital. Many on here don't seem to care about the people getting sick but the massive amount of dollars attached to those patients should be something they can relate too.
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07-12-2020, 12:46 PM
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According to your stats, less than 1% of hospitals in the USA are approaching capacity. That was the question, and thanks for the answer.
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07-12-2020, 02:04 PM
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According to your stats, less than 1% of hospitals in the USA are approaching capacity. That was the question, and thanks for the answer.
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If that is what you got out of it...I know you are now trolling. Lol
You got me. Kudos.
Most people would of said wow...in the 40 States with Covid blowing up...hospitilations are spiking...capacity is being reached.
But...I like your world. Butterflies, lollipops, blue skies and free ice cream while enjoying a nice cool breeze on a warm beach.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
Lol
Thanks. Made me smile.
PS.
Trump approves of wearing masks.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#5b11cb6a2122
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07-12-2020, 02:19 PM
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Let’s not let facts ruin an agenda.
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No Scott. The director of the CDC did. To be fair, the percentage is closer to 99.5/6 ish.
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Chuck ............. did you read the headline?
Do you understand the headline?
The headline reads ....
Dr. Fauci says Trump is 'obviously' wrong that '99%' of coronavirus cases are 'totally harmless'
Basically Fauci said that Trump is full of it.
The CDC posts data daily that PROVES Trump is full of it.
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07-12-2020, 03:19 PM
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Chuck ............. did you read the headline?
Do you understand the headline?
The headline reads ....
Dr. Fauci says Trump is 'obviously' wrong that '99%' of coronavirus cases are 'totally harmless'
Basically Fauci said that Trump is full of it.
The CDC posts data daily that PROVES Trump is full of it.
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Here is the third time I’ve posted this for you. If this is correct, and it’s from the CDC, it makes the virus less than 1% deadly. Or put another way, 99% safe I guess.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wash...outputType=amp
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I also suspect if you are getting grief...likely they have no way of knowing where you are from.
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I got grief on two websites, here and on facebook and as I'm sure you know both sites offer location identification.
What conspiracy theory did I mention? That there were protests against the US president, or that Covid-19 is real,, or was it the race riots or the impeachment proceedings.
Or do you think that China has nothing to loose if Donald Trump revives the American manufacturing sector?
This is exactly why I have backed away from this site. Too many seem eager to paint anyone they disagree with as a nut case, or in your case, a conspiracy theorist which amounts to the same thing to most people.
And they put words in people mouths.
Fellow outdoorsman they claim. Yeah right. We can't even have a civil discussion. What hope is there for us to win against real nut cases that want to take away our guns?
You know what, I believe this virus is real. I've said so from the start.
I do follow the recommended precautions. But I also do my research and don't usually jump to ridiculous conclusions.
I have never accused anyone of risking another person's life but a couple of members here sure have accused me of doing so. Not that you have but you of all people should know I am no wingnut and I would never knowingly put another person's life at risk.
But because I have doubts about the fear being peddled I'm labeled a nut case.
Well sir I learned long ago the fear is almost exclusively used when the truth won't get the desired results. So what is the truth in this case?
Frankly I doubt we will ever know.
One thing is undeniable, some officials have no hesitation in lying to us.
Our Prime Minster proves that almost every week.
Big business is no better.
So you go ahead and think whatever you wish of me. I could care less.
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Do you have something to add here?
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Not much point with someone who knows everything already.
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07-12-2020, 06:45 PM
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I have tried my best to be patient. I really see no point in us furthering any more discussions if you can't seem to understand what you yourself are looking at, posting, what other people post or cite, etc.. and you keep completely ignoring the CDC's own data and making ridiculous arguments - you are either trolling or really don't understanding it and I'm not trying to be rude - but I can't think of any other way to say it and I'm done explaining it. I will commend you for being tireless and making up numbers and trying to argue a point that isn't even worth disputing.
You win ......... everything, regardless of context, is less than 1%
Carry on. All the best.
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07-12-2020, 06:58 PM
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Chuck ............. did you read the headline?
Do you understand the headline?
The headline reads ....
Dr. Fauci says Trump is 'obviously' wrong that '99%' of coronavirus cases are 'totally harmless'
Basically Fauci said that Trump is full of it.
The CDC posts data daily that PROVES Trump is full of it.
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Goodbye.
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So less than 1%?
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547 health are workers have died in the US. Similar numbers in other countries such as UK and Russia. I guess that's just occupational hazard.
I wonder how many doctors and nurses die in a typical flu season - is there a worldometer stat for that?
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07-13-2020, 01:19 AM
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I got grief on two websites, here and on facebook and as I'm sure you know both sites offer location identification.
What conspiracy theory did I mention? That there were protests against the US president, or that Covid-19 is real,, or was it the race riots or the impeachment proceedings.
Or do you think that China has nothing to loose if Donald Trump revives the American manufacturing sector?
This is exactly why I have backed away from this site. Too many seem eager to paint anyone they disagree with as a nut case, or in your case, a conspiracy theorist which amounts to the same thing to most people.
And they put words in people mouths.
Fellow outdoorsman they claim. Yeah right. We can't even have a civil discussion. What hope is there for us to win against real nut cases that want to take away our guns?
You know what, I believe this virus is real. I've said so from the start.
I do follow the recommended precautions. But I also do my research and don't usually jump to ridiculous conclusions.
I have never accused anyone of risking another person's life but a couple of members here sure have accused me of doing so. Not that you have but you of all people should know I am no wingnut and I would never knowingly put another person's life at risk.
But because I have doubts about the fear being peddled I'm labeled a nut case.
Well sir I learned long ago the fear is almost exclusively used when the truth won't get the desired results. So what is the truth in this case?
Frankly I doubt we will ever know.
One thing is undeniable, some officials have no hesitation in lying to us.
Our Prime Minster proves that almost every week.
Big business is no better.
So you go ahead and think whatever you wish of me. I could care less.
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That's great you think the virus is real.
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07-13-2020, 08:42 AM
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547 health are workers have died in the US. Similar numbers in other countries such as UK and Russia. I guess that's just occupational hazard.
I wonder how many doctors and nurses die in a typical flu season - is there a worldometer stat for that?
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Actually the number is quite a bit higher than than that (and climbing daily). Here's an article on that subject.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...workers-deaths
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Yikes. The number of 20, 30, 40 year olds is startling and eye opening.
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And now we have unmasked the Chuck from the forum. Trump retweet today has dotted all the Is and crossed all the Ts . Hello Chuck Woolery !! Will you be back in 2 minutes and 2 seconds?
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And now we have unmasked the Chuck from the forum. Trump retweet today has dotted all the Is and crossed all the Ts . Hello Chuck Woolery !! Will you be back in 2 minutes and 2 seconds?
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Are you saying Chuck from the AO forum is actually Chuck Woolery posting here?
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Are you saying Chuck from the AO forum is actually Chuck Woolery posting here?
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Jokingly I am.
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Jokingly I am.
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Bizarre
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Bizarre
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Agreed. Nonsensical would be my description.
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Agreed. Nonsensical would be my description.
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I guess you and chuck have been Trumped.
Trumped is the act of listening, backing and believing an idiot and thus becoming one yourself.
Lean forward please I have a stamp to use on your forehead!!
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I guess you and chuck have been Trumped.
Trumped is the act of listening, backing and believing an idiot and thus becoming one yourself.
Lean forward please I have a stamp to use on your forehead!!
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Um..."Trumped" is a term that is used in card games, or a verb to do something better.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trump
Swing again Mr. Comaderek.
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Are you saying Chuck from the AO forum is actually Chuck Woolery posting here?
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I had him pegged as Chuck Schumer or maybe Chuck Barris. Please dont ruin my dream.
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Let’s keep cutting through the lies.
How many deaths this year vs last? That tells a big part of the story.
Anyone got the numbers?
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aaannnd now they are shutting things down.....hmmm...wonder why eh 
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