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05-20-2016, 12:12 PM
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fluorocarbon leaders
This year i wanna try using braided line, and i heard that it's a good idea to use a fluorocarbon leader on the end. I am using 10# braided line, and will be fishing for walleye. Any suggestions on length and what strength of leader to use?
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05-20-2016, 12:21 PM
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I use about 16" or more that way if it gets chewed up on the bottom near the snap swivel I can cut it and re tie
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05-20-2016, 01:37 PM
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Location: Edmonton
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Braided mainline to fluorocarbon gets a swivel. Then I use 24"-30" of 8lb fluorocarbon tied directly to jig.
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05-20-2016, 06:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EZM
Braided mainline to fluorocarbon gets a swivel. Then I use 24"-30" of 8lb fluorocarbon tied directly to jig.
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Hey EZM do you find the swivel is a game changer or just a personal preference? I have normally used snap swivels in the past but want to clean up my presentation. Tried no snap swivels the other day with no problems but it wasn't long enough time to have problems.
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05-20-2016, 08:11 PM
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I use 10lb Power Pro Super slick and 4-5' of fluorocarbon leader, either 6 or 8 lb test. I prefer the Berkley 100% fluoro leader material but regular 100% fluoro line works well too. I prefer tying the lines together directly using a blood knot to a swivel. In my opinion it's more sensitive and there's fewer potential failure points. A swivel isn't a bad idea though if you're using a lure that causes a lot of line twist.
I like a longer leader. It lets me re-tie my jig more times before I have to tie on a new leader and I think it adds some stealth as well, especially when using a high vis braid.
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05-20-2016, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleyedude
I use 10lb Power Pro Super slick and 4-5' of fluorocarbon leader, either 6 or 8 lb test. I prefer the Berkley 100% fluoro leader material but regular 100% fluoro line works well too. I prefer tying the lines together directly using a blood knot to a swivel. In my opinion it's more sensitive and there's fewer potential failure points. A swivel isn't a bad idea though if you're using a lure that causes a lot of line twist.
I like a longer leader. It lets me re-tie my jig more times before I have to tie on a new leader and I think it adds some stealth as well, especially when using a high vis braid.
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I use basically the same thing, but I prefer to tie my fluorocarbon to my braid using a double uni knot, and a drop of superglue.
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05-20-2016, 10:23 PM
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For jigging for walleye with 10 lb pp I would be using 8 lb fluorocarbon(and I would probably just use fluorocarbon line instead of leader material) and tie directly to jig.
I like a 5-6 ft leader, I figure if you are going to go through the work to use a fluorocarbon leader it kind of defeats the purpose if only using 2 ft. If a fish can see braid they will be able to see braid moving 2 ft above the lure as well although once they get locked onto the jig might not care.
I use the no name knot and it has always worked good for me.
http://www.powerpro.com/publish/cont...ame_knot_.html
If you are going to be using crankbaits for walleye then use a 20 lb fluorcarbon leader material or a titanium leader so you have less pike bite offs(unless you don't care about losing lures).
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05-20-2016, 10:56 PM
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When it comes to attaching the lure to the leader, what do most people do? Do they tie the lure right onto the leader, or do they use some kind of swivel?
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05-20-2016, 11:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smiity
When it comes to attaching the lure to the leader, what do most people do? Do they tie the lure right onto the leader, or do they use some kind of swivel?
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I only use a swivel if needed. Spoons, spinners etc you need a swivel.
You definitely don't want to use a snap swivel with a jig. The jig won't hang right if you do that.
Swivels/snaps also add visible bulk and also noise/vibration hence why I only use when necessary. It sucks having to tie lures on all the time but that is why I take 2-3 rods with me.
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05-21-2016, 07:39 AM
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Any disadvantages to putting a full spool of florocarbon on your reel ?
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05-21-2016, 08:31 AM
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I use main line fireline/powerpro, swivel with about 18-24" fluorocarbon on jigs, slip bobbers, and lindy rig setup. About 30" 12lb on spininer rigs.
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05-21-2016, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smiity
This year i wanna try using braided line, and i heard that it's a good idea to use a fluorocarbon leader on the end. I am using 10# braided line, and will be fishing for walleye. Any suggestions on length and what strength of leader to use?
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For walleye, I only use fluoro if it is a real slow tough bite. Otherwise, I tie superline direct to jig with a palomar knot. If tying fluoro with a jig most times will tie back to back uni to join line(no swivel).
If I feel a need for the swivel, I will tie the swivel to the fluoro with a palomar first and then the superline with a palomar and complete the setup with palomar to lure. Leader length varies from about 2 to 4 feet. If riggin, leader may be longer.
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05-21-2016, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RavYak
For jigging for walleye with 10 lb pp I would be using 8 lb fluorocarbon(and I would probably just use fluorocarbon line instead of leader material) and tie directly to jig.
I like a 5-6 ft leader, I figure if you are going to go through the work to use a fluorocarbon leader it kind of defeats the purpose if only using 2 ft. If a fish can see braid they will be able to see braid moving 2 ft above the lure as well although once they get locked onto the jig might not care.
I use the no name knot and it has always worked good for me.
http://www.powerpro.com/publish/cont...ame_knot_.html
If you are going to be using crankbaits for walleye then use a 20 lb fluorcarbon leader material or a titanium leader so you have less pike bite offs(unless you don't care about losing lures).
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I agree with RavYak. I use slight variations.
For bass and walleye casting and jigging, I use 2 rod lengths of 12# fluoro line. Adjust this length based on how you typically land the fish. You may want to go with 1 rod length. Tie the line to leader with an Albright knot. This knot will run easily through the guides and into your reel. I would replace the leader once it gets shorter than 1m.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Z74Cj1MMw
To optimize walleye catches, you can certainly go lighter fluoro line strength, but I find there are always collateral pike. The no-name knot is stronger, but I find the Albright to have the smallest profile (and it is still a strong knot). If you use a super strong knot like no-name, then you just have to use a shorter length of fluoro (which is exactly what RavYak does). Some people have suggested a blood knot---this is a good low-profile knot, but it is meant for connecting 2 lines of similar diameter. It is not as strong as the Albright. I find braid significantly thinner than fluoro.
For trolling, I go with 2 rod lengths of 30# fluoro leader and a small section (20-30cm) of titanium wire. We tried a few different experiments last year. We found for trolling, 12# fluoro line tied directly to the crank-bait (using a rapala knot) to be best, but it is an easy way to spend $50/day on lost lures, and it is probably only 15% (at best) more effective.
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05-21-2016, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim473
Any disadvantages to putting a full spool of florocarbon on your reel ?
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I find that fluoro line tends to retain the memory off the spool. Not sure if that has to do with the physical properties, or if certain lines have less memory than others.
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