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06-24-2017, 06:55 PM
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Factory Ammo
Hey everyone.
I usually handload for my 270 and 300 win mag but due to work I'll be out of town alot and just don't have the time. Any suggestions on decent factory ammo. I haven't bought a box in a long time. My 270 is a xbolt and my 300win mag is a tikka t3x.
I heard federal fusion is pretty cheap and accurate but never shot it before. I know every rifle is different just looking for options that have worked for others.
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06-24-2017, 06:59 PM
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Blue box Federal's seen to get a lot of praise.
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06-24-2017, 07:10 PM
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I'm a huge federal ammo guy used power shok for years but shooting partitions now in federal premium and Barnes 160 in the Barnes ammo both are very accurate
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06-24-2017, 07:14 PM
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My tikka T3 seems to like 150gr federal blue box
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06-24-2017, 07:17 PM
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Never hand loaded a single round of high powered ammo and I sure have killed lots. Nothing wrong with factory ammo
For you're 300 Win Mag try Nosler Trophy Grade ABLR's in 190 Grain, deadly!
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06-24-2017, 07:33 PM
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I liken factory ammo to Kraft Macaroni dinners to a chef's premium cooking.
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06-26-2017, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 338 Rules
Never hand loaded a single round of high powered ammo and I sure have killed lots. Nothing wrong with factory ammo
For you're 300 Win Mag try Nosler Trophy Grade ABLR's in 190 Grain, deadly!
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How much a box?
That what scares me about factory loads. I can reload that for $1.25 a round.
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06-25-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
Blue box Federal's seen to get a lot of praise.
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X2 ! They ( Federal ) produce billions of rounds every year under contract for the military , police forces , and homeland security ,
So it should be good enough for bullet proof moose and other unfortunate creatures caught in the crosshairs of nearsighted weekend warriors
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06-25-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by elkdump
X2 ! They ( Federal ) produce billions of rounds every year under contract for the military , police forces , and homeland security ,
So it should be good enough for bullet proof moose and other unfortunate creatures caught in the crosshairs of nearsighted weekend warriors
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X3. Many animals down with these rounds before I ever reloaded anything.
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06-26-2017, 06:57 PM
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Out of factory ammo ran through a chrono that i use in my 270 win and 338win mag..... Nosler Trophy Grade has the most consistancy that i have found so far.
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06-26-2017, 09:21 PM
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Not to derail but has anyone had decent results with Hornady superformance factory ammo. I tried a box in my 270win and it shot terrible. My nephew tried it in his 243win, 7RM and 338 wm. 2"groups at best.
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06-26-2017, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
Not to derail but has anyone had decent results with Hornady superformance factory ammo. I tried a box in my 270win and it shot terrible. My nephew tried it in his 243win, 7RM and 338 wm. 2"groups at best.
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Only gun i dont handload for is my model seven in 204ruger it always shot superformance 32g so well i never bothered load development
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06-26-2017, 11:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
Not to derail but has anyone had decent results with Hornady superformance factory ammo. I tried a box in my 270win and it shot terrible. My nephew tried it in his 243win, 7RM and 338 wm. 2"groups at best.
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I had terrible results with my .270 and .300 win mag, I was told that they improved on the superformance, and created the ELD-X, which function flawless with both my rifles!
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07-30-2017, 01:32 AM
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.204 Ruger
I love my t3 Varmint .204 ruger. I have always been a hornady guy but today I did this at 300 yards. Hope they knock coyotes down as hard as the vmax do. I think I have a new winner!
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07-30-2017, 10:11 AM
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Almost all of my hunting rifles have shot either federal blue box or Remington corelokt very well. 1 inch groups at 100yards. But my zastava 243 will not shoot either under 2 inches...time to find some new ammo for it...just so darn expensive ..I will probably try fusions and hornady next..or Winchester super x
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07-30-2017, 02:02 PM
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I don't reload and can chime in. I have not owned a 270 in a few years so can't specify anything there.
My 300 WM seems to like heavier bullets 180 grain or more. It groups anything Horniday best but the SST exhibits poor terminal performance at closer ranges in 300 WM. The SST has performed well for me in 308 WIN at 150 yards plus. As for the federal fusions, the group about 20% worse than other factory loads in all my rifles. A little worse in the 300wm and a little better in the 308. However, I have had a couple of great kills with them in 308 where they smashed through bone and stayed intact while opening up nicely. The 200 grain ELD-X group well with my 300 WM but I haven't shot an animal with them yet. Also, I have found that the Winchester super X work fine for a low cost cartridge. Rifle is a CZ550 UHR I think 24" and 1:10.
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06-24-2017, 07:31 PM
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Not sure what your price point is but I have a Winchester model 70 in 270 win and that rifle likes the HSM 130gr Berger vlds. Definitely an MOA round in my rifle. I also have a Weatherby true North in 300 Win mag and that rifle likes the federal trophy bonded tip and the hornady precision hunter. Again both an MOA round for that rifle.
Best of luck finding the magic combination
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06-24-2017, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Outdoors.Dad
Hey everyone.
Any suggestions on decent factory ammo. I haven't bought a box in a long time. My 270 is a xbolt and my 300win mag is a tikka t3x.
I heard federal fusion is pretty cheap and accurate but never shot it before. I know every rifle is different just looking for options that have worked for others.
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I shoot factory and handloads. Ignore the ABLR recommend unless you are ok with $ 80-90 a box. He doesn't shoot the same calibers anyways and just likes to soapbox.
Fusion 270's will shoot just fine out of your xbolt. Hornady GMX and Remington Premier Accutip if you can find them are two other affordables that shoot decently. Lot's of choices in that caliber.
Only recommend I'd make is to go 150 grain over 130 as your go to.
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06-24-2017, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 270person
I shoot factory and handloads. Ignore the ABLR recommend unless you are ok with $ 80-90 a box. He doesn't shoot the same calibers anyways and just likes to soapbox.
Fusion 270's will shoot just fine out of your xbolt. Hornady GMX and Remington Premier Accutip if you can find them are two other affordables that shoot decently. Lot's of choices in that caliber.
Only recommend I'd make is to go 150 grain over 130 as your go to.
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And I would never shoot anything but 130gr bullets out of a 270win, unless the rifle wouldn't shoot 130s accurately.
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06-25-2017, 06:45 AM
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And I would never shoot anything but 130gr bullets out of a 270win, unless the rifle wouldn't shoot 130s accurately.
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To each his own but I prefer the bc's of the 150's and find them to be more accurate in my guns.
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06-25-2017, 09:41 AM
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I recently sighted in a new tikka t3 300wm for a fellow shooter. He had 180gr federal blue box ammo. I was very surprised to shoot a 3 shot group which measured .195. I have shot the federal blue box in my 22-250. They seemed to shoot well and flatten coyotes.
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06-25-2017, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
I recently sighted in a new tikka t3 300wm for a fellow shooter. He had 180gr federal blue box ammo. I was very surprised to shoot a 3 shot group which measured .195. I have shot the federal blue box in my 22-250. They seemed to shoot well and flatten coyotes.
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.195, that is exceptional I thought .25 was good. Just goes to show you that many Brand Name Factory rounds are every bit as good as hand loads. The trick is finding the right factory round that will work well in your particular rifle.
For my .338 I shoot Nosler Trophy Grade Accubonds, my rifle loves them and so do I! I am not a range shooter and only use my rifle a couple of weeks a year so paying for a box @ 154.99 is no big deal.
If I were a bench shooter or was into shooting often, I would definitely consider loading my own for the cost savings.
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06-25-2017, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Outdoors.Dad
Hey everyone.
I usually handload for my 270 and 300 win mag but due to work I'll be out of town alot and just don't have the time. Any suggestions on decent factory ammo. I haven't bought a box in a long time. My 270 is a xbolt and my 300win mag is a tikka t3x.
I heard federal fusion is pretty cheap and accurate but never shot it before. I know every rifle is different just looking for options that have worked for others.
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I generally hand load everything but I have had two 7x57s that REALLY like factory Sellier and Bellot ammo. (It came with one of the guns so I was shooting it to make brass) It took me a real long time to get a hand load that would shoot under 1/2" in either of those guns but the factory stuff would do it regularly. Factory ammo is a lot better made today than it was 50 years ago.
I am also of the opinion that the European factory ammo is better made than most of the inexpensive NA stuff. I have shot Privi, S&B, Fiochi and Norma while in Europe. All of them would shoot an inch or less in the guns I shot them out of, some well under 1/2". If you can get some Privi or S&B from Tradex I would give it a try. It also makes great brass for when you do have time to reload again.
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06-26-2017, 11:17 AM
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270 Win factory rounds
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Originally Posted by Outdoors.Dad
Hey everyone.
I usually handload for my 270 and 300 win mag but due to work I'll be out of town alot and just don't have the time. Any suggestions on decent factory ammo. I haven't bought a box in a long time. My 270 is a xbolt and my 300win mag is a tikka t3x.
I heard federal fusion is pretty cheap and accurate but never shot it before. I know every rifle is different just looking for options that have worked for others.
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My Browning A-Bolt II in .270 love the Hornady Custom 140's.
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06-26-2017, 06:04 PM
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Buck fever is a real thing, but in my experience, guys who spend time chasing accuracy at the range, usually find it when they are starting at four legged creatures.
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06-26-2017, 06:12 PM
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Buck fever is a real thing, but in my experience, guys who spend time chasing accuracy at the range, usually find it when they are starting at four legged creatures.
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And if you can't hit a paper target off of a bench rest, you aren't likely going to be a precision shot on game under field conditions.
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06-26-2017, 06:14 PM
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And if you can't hit a paper target off of a bench rest, you aren't likely going to be a precision shot on game under field conditions.
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Damn straight.
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06-26-2017, 06:17 PM
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A guy can get anal, but shooting gongs offhand at 100 consistently, and then 200 and 300 off of a shooting rest that you will be using in the field (i.e. bi or tripod, is good practice for hunting conditions. I like hunting with guys like that. Guys who take two or three shots before the season? Not too much.
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06-27-2017, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Outdoors.Dad
I heard federal fusion is pretty cheap and accurate but never shot it before. I know every rifle is different just looking for options that have worked for others.
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I find that what works for others does not always work for me. It is unfortunate but I do not think there is a short cut that is guaranteed,
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06-27-2017, 06:18 PM
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here is some factory ammo
175gr 7mm Mag Winchester Super X pp
even have the right disc too take it out too 500yds (BDC)
mine are for hunting
Predator too .. 200yd free hand head shot
shot for over 30 years
$36 a box
but on any given day ..lol
David
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