why no musky in alberta lakes

[Eddy62]

i will be the brave one and ask this simple question..... dont eat me alive lol

[mikeo2]

because they might end up taking over all of the waters and eating all of the prized trout....

[pickrel pat]

Omg!!!

[Eddy62]

Originally Posted by pickrel pat

Omg!!!

omg?what do you mean

[pickrel pat]

Originally Posted by parnavi

omg?what do you mean

I mean..... oh my god!!!!

[Kokanee9]

I would be interested in knowing why there are no muskie here. Is the open water season too short, wrong kind of lake hydrogaphy?

Sundance, can you help on this one?

[Deb]

This is an old report (1987), but might give you some insight as to the requirements muskies need for subsistence and reproduction:

http://www.nwrc.usgs.gov/wdb/pub/hsi/hsi-148.pdf

We had lots of them in the northern parts of the Delaware River.

Deb

[Toirtis]

Not certain, but even the occurrence in SE Manitoba is from human introduction.

Interesting paper here:

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_085743.pdf

[aulrich]

I would say plain old wrong watershed, I don't know of any outside of NE US and Southern Ontairo

Just like there is no pickeral here

[bigfishen]

Originally Posted by aulrich

I would say plain old wrong watershed, I don't know of any outside of NE US and Southern Ontairo

Just like there is no pickeral here

what do you mean i catch pickeral all the time at pigeon lake...

[Eddy62]

Originally Posted by aulrich

I would say plain old wrong watershed, I don't know of any outside of NE US and Southern Ontairo

Just like there is no pickeral here

fishpic_gary.jpg

heres a nic pic off one caught at lake off the woods in kenora ontario

[greylynx]

For the same reason there are no Bass.

[Toirtis]

Originally Posted by bigfishen

what do you mean i catch pickeral all the time at pigeon lake...

He is referring to Esox niger, and E. americanus, not Sander vitreus or Esox lucius, both of which occasionally are referred to locally as 'pickerel'.

[FishingFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Toirtis

He is referring to Esox niger, and E. americanus, not Sander vitreus or Esox lucius, both of which occasionally are referred to locally as 'pickerel'.

Aweeee thats racist...

But seriously. I honestly dont understand the point of threads like this. WHY NO BASS, WHY NO MUSKY, WHY NO CRAPPIE.

Yes, there is probably a reason but honestly, WHO CARES. Im happy fishing the species we have in alberta and its nice to be able to go out of province and have a new experience, catching new species. Having them all in the province would make the adventure of fishing....too easy.

Just my 2 cents.

[Braun]

Originally Posted by FishingFrenzy

Aweeee thats racist...

But seriously. I honestly dont understand the point of threads like this. WHY NO BASS, WHY NO MUSKY, WHY NO CRAPPIE.

Yes, there is probably a reason but honestly, WHO CARES. Im happy fishing the species we have in alberta and its nice to be able to go out of province and have a new experience, catching new species. Having them all in the province would make the adventure of fishing....too easy.

Just my 2 cents.

because maybe he is genuinely curious as to why they dont live here. one day when i was small i am sure i asked how come i cant catch a tuna or a marlin in the bow river....... I'd bet you the response i got wasn't "who cares". He wasnt suggesting why dont we stock them... just why they aren't here. deep breaths frenzy.

[Eddy62]

Originally Posted by Braun

because maybe he is genuinely curious as to why they dont live here. one day when i was small i am sure i asked how come i cant catch a tuna or a marlin in the bow river....... I'd bet you the response i got wasn't "who cares". He wasnt suggesting why dont we stock them... just why they aren't here. deep breaths frenzy.

txs braun i am just curious

[Dust1n]

water tempitures have alot to do with it all of those 3 species and mainly musky....

[diamonddave]

Thats pretty scientific, care to elaborate FH7??

[Fordman150]

Originally Posted by FishingFrenzy

Aweeee thats racist...

But seriously. I honestly dont understand the point of threads like this. WHY NO BASS, WHY NO MUSKY, WHY NO CRAPPIE.

Yes, there is probably a reason but honestly, WHO CARES. Im happy fishing the species we have in alberta and its nice to be able to go out of province and have a new experience, catching new species. Having them all in the province would make the adventure of fishing....too easy.

Just my 2 cents.

if you don't care then why are you posting..

[greylynx]

Because this is not Ontario.


And I hope it never will be

[horsetrader]

Originally Posted by aulrich

I would say plain old wrong watershed, I don't know of any outside of NE US and Southern Ontairo

Just like there is no pickeral here

Actually the best muskie fishing in Ontario is in northern Ontario

[jungleboy]

There is a book available at Cabelas ( I'm sure it's available elsewhere as well ),that expains the whys and wheres that Pike and Muskie are distributed. It say their native range is from 36*n to 51*n which barely reaches into Canada. The book is quite good and is called NORTHERN PIKE AND MUSKIE . put out by The Fresh Water Fisherman. pick it up and read through it . Lots of good information on fishing for both species. I have only ever hook into a Muskie once in Ontario but it was an experience I wont forget .

[chubbdarter]

The stocking of a invasive species could ruin our pristine native fish populations....
The mear thought of a Bass and a Musky doing funky and creating a Mustyazz is terrifying......they will get bucket brigaded to every trout pot hole and eat all the shiney fish.
Eventually they will hybridize with land dwelling animals....becoming a man eating monster

[jungleboy]

Every time a question like this is asked on this site there are a certain element who go into a damn panic ,spouting off all the end of the world rhetoric . The guy asked a simple question and gets blasted for it. Open your minds and think about a constructive answer to the question instead of jumping on people for asking it.

[DuckBrat]

Muskie would not do well in our lakes but Tiger Muskie a sterile offspring of Muskie and Pike would be phenomenal in one of our southern Reservoirs. No chance of this species taking over (Sterile). Would do very well in reservoirs with high sucker populations.

[WillyOneStyle]

Eventually, the muskies will evolve little legs and climb out of their Ontario lakes. They will develope primitive conversations during the long walk to Alberta. When faced with the daunting task of the Rocky mountains they will de-evolve their little legs, reminisce about the glory days back in Ontario and slither into our watersheds and try to carve a niche.

Depending on the extent of global climate change, substitute legs for wings.

[KegRiver]

I have no idea why they aren't here, and I have wondered about that myself a time or two.

And I hope they never get introduced to Western waters. We don't need them.

[horsetrader]

Originally Posted by WillyOneStyle

Eventually, the muskies will evolve little legs and climb out of their Ontario lakes. They will develope primitive conversations during the long walk to Alberta. When faced with the daunting task of the Rocky mountains they will de-evolve their little legs, reminisce about the glory days back in Ontario and slither into our watersheds and try to carve a niche.

Depending on the extent of global climate change, substitute legs for wings.

But if they had wings they would not be daunted by the rockies

[silver]

The water is too cold for them up here, besides, the slough sharks would clean them up.

[Dust1n]

Originally Posted by silver

The water is too cold for them up here, besides, the slough sharks would clean them up.

only at birth because the muskies grow alot slower then pike and the juvinile pike will feed on smaller muskie fry