Backyard workshop build - what did i forget to consider?

[Jamie]

Why not skylights for windows if wall space is a priority? Skylights and doors with a window..

How about a drain of some sort? Even if it just leads to a bucket out side?

[ram crazy]

You may want to check what insurance is going to cost before you put a wood floor in. You may be surprised at what the insurance rates will be because it's a higher risk of fire.

[captain91]

Just a comment on the out swing man door. Great that it doesn’t eat up floor space when open, but they are ridiculously easy for theifs to break into if that’s a concern where you are. Had a house broken into at work this summer, crowbar in the door reveal and lots of leverage room to pop open. Inside in seconds, just a thought.


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[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by captain91

Just a comment on the out swing man door. Great that it doesn’t eat up floor space when open, but they are ridiculously easy for theifs to break into if that’s a concern where you are. Had a house broken into at work this summer, crowbar in the door reveal and lots of leverage room to pop open. Inside in seconds, just a thought.


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On the other hand, that’s if they have a tool. Most doors yield to being kicked or otherwise knocked in, which is more difficult with an out-swing door. There are trade-off’s. Out swing is also better for egress safety, note how many public and business doors are out swing for this reason. A strike plate overlap will help against prying the frame wider.

[gpgriz]

Wow! Glad I've got til spring/summer to plan this.
You folks have some great ideas and considerations.

Many thanks to you all.
It won't be for a while, but I'll post pics.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

On the other hand, that’s if they have a tool. Most doors yield to being kicked or otherwise knocked in, which is more difficult with an out-swing door. There are trade-off’s. Out swing is also better for egress safety, note how many public and business doors are out swing for this reason. A strike plate overlap will help against prying the frame wider.

Out swings are almost 3 x the cost of an in swing and have unfavorable thermo dynamics in a heated building. They tend to warp. That's why you see so few of them.

Grizz

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

Out swings are almost 3 x the cost of an in swing and have unfavorable thermo dynamics in a heated building. They tend to warp. That's why you see so few of them.

Grizz

What? Am I missing something here? A prehung door can be installed in either direction. The insulation value doesn’t change; it’s insulation not a check valve.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

What? Am I missing something here? A prehung door can be installed in either direction. The insulation value doesn’t change; it’s insulation not a check valve.

An out swing door is located on the cold side of the wall, makes a difference how the metal expands and contracts with temperature. Trust me.

Grizz

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

An out swing door is located on the cold side of the wall, makes a difference how the metal expands and contracts with temperature. Trust me.

Grizz

In a pre hung door frame how does the facing of the door matter? The cost is the same as it’s the same door. Regardless of which way you swing a door it is both on the cold and warm wall regardless. What am I missing? I guess the hinges are mounted to the cold side but I really don’t see how it would matter, especially in a building that won’t likely be heated full time.

[jednastka]

Actually, if you measure a 4x8 sheet of plywood kitty corner, it is 107 inches, just under 9 feet.. If you allow for lights hanging down, and floor on your slab, I would recommend 10.5 feet, which is what I did. Paint the ceiling gloss white barn paint from Peavy Mart, and use 4 tube T-8 fixtures, wiring 2 tubes from each fixture on one circuit, the other 2 on another. Run one 4 wire cable from fixture to fixture. That gives you options on lighting. I also vote for windows. I have 2' x 4' windows with about 1 foot between them all around the shop. Most are fixed pane, 4 are awning windows, hung upside down, so I can access the cranks with a long pole. Works great.


Vic

[trophybook]

Cat5e or cat 6 for internet cause wifi boosters are a pain. Rg6 coax for satalite and or cams. Put 6 light boxes in ceiling. And light boxes 7ft up wall for bench lights

[trophybook]

Originally Posted by jednastka

Actually, if you measure a 4x8 sheet of plywood kitty corner, it is 107 inches, just under 9 feet.. If you allow for lights hanging down, and floor on your slab, I would recommend 10.5 feet, which is what I did. Paint the ceiling gloss white barn paint from Peavy Mart, and use 4 tube T-8 fixtures, wiring 2 tubes from each fixture on one circuit, the other 2 on another. Run one 4 wire cable from fixture to fixture. That gives you options on lighting. I also vote for windows. I have 2' x 4' windows with about 1 foot between them all around the shop. Most are fixed pane, 4 are awning windows, hung upside down, so I can access the cranks with a long pole. Works great.


Vic

4 wire hmm hard to find 4 wire loomex. Install keyless and put led cob bulbs. T8s don't work good in unheated environments. T5s are the new t8s

[58thecat]

Higher walls, 2x6 construction, windows for ventilation,natural light for the days your in shop working, ceiling electrical plug in, natural gas heating, two exhaust fans, and then all the rest added in by other posts give or take a few....good luck.

Oh and sliding doors cuz you never want to really limit yourself as to what comes in and goes out.....

[ram crazy]

Originally Posted by trophybook

4 wire hmm hard to find 4 wire loomex. Install keyless and put led cob bulbs. T8s don't work good in unheated environments. T5s are the new t8s

LED's work in unheated garage.