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06-11-2018, 09:44 PM
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6.5x55 And H4831
Anyone have any load data for 130 grain Berger's using H4831?
My manuals don't list for 130's but I know a lot of people use h4831 with them.
Starting load and Coal would be appreciated.
Thanks
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06-12-2018, 07:24 AM
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I would suggest that you use a different powder. Pretty sure you will find H4831 too slow and too bulky if that is what you have. Try RL-22 or H-100V for that combo. IMR 4831 would work as well.
What action are you using ?
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06-12-2018, 03:13 PM
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I must say I disagree with the above. Although, some people are getting really awesome speeds with the RL powders. I can never find them reliably so I have never used them.
I had a 6.5X55 on a 700LA. I used 48grs H4831SC (never tired the non SC but it should be close) under a 140gr Berger. I was pushing mid 2,800 FPS. It could have gone higher but that load was really good for me. I was running a 26" barrel.
I think with a 130 you could be in the 2,900 FPS range with 4831.
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06-12-2018, 05:45 PM
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My swede loves the H4831sc from 140's to 160's
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06-12-2018, 06:47 PM
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I would agree that you can use better powders than H4831 for a 130 Berger in 6.5x55.
It will work, but I would try the following first:
RL26
IMR7828ssc
RL22
SAAMI cartridge OAL is 3.150".
To arrive at a starting and max load, we would need to know if your rifle is based on a modern action or not, as Salavee mentioned earlier.
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06-12-2018, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salavee
I would suggest that you use a different powder. Pretty sure you will find H4831 too slow and too bulky if that is what you have. Try RL-22 or H-100V for that combo. IMR 4831 would work as well.
What action are you using ?
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The reason for H4831 is I have 6lbs of it. I'm using two different rifles. A Tikka m695 with 24" barrel and a Shultz and Larson with mauser98 action 26" barrel
I have used 140 Berger's 2800 fps and 120 grain 3000fps ballistic tips.
Both with h4831 and with amazing accurcy results.
So I thought 130's wouldn't be a problem. Expect my manuals don't Gove any data for 130's
Only 120's and 140's
Wtf?
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06-12-2018, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 360hunt
The reason for H4831 is I have 6lbs of it. I'm using two different rifles. A Tikka m695 with 24" barrel and a Shultz and Larson with mauser98 action 26" barrel
I have used 140 Berger's 2800 fps and 120 grain 3000fps ballistic tips.
Both with h4831 and with amazing accurcy results.
So I thought 130's wouldn't be a problem. Expect my manuals don't Gove any data for 130's
Only 120's and 140's
Wtf?
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Start with the load you use for 140's and work up.
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06-12-2018, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 360hunt
The reason for H4831 is I have 6lbs of it. I'm using two different rifles. A Tikka m695 with 24" barrel and a Shultz and Larson with mauser98 action 26" barrel
I have used 140 Berger's 2800 fps and 120 grain 3000fps ballistic tips.
Both with h4831 and with amazing accurcy results.
So I thought 130's wouldn't be a problem. Expect my manuals don't Gove any data for 130's
Only 120's and 140's
Wtf?
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That's great. If the powder is working for you, there is obviously no need to change.
Quickload shows that a charge of 50.0 grs H4831 will get you in a projected ballpark of 2955 fps with a compressed load @ 105 % density / 97% powder burn /57,300 psi./COL 3.150/ Berger 130 Hunting VLD / 70 deg F.
Just as a comparison, a charge of 53.0 gr of RL-26 will achieve 56883 psi for a MV of 3094 / 100 % density and 100 % burn. I have an Xtra lb of it if you want to try give it a try. Either way , enjoy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salavee
That's great. If the powder is working for you, there is obviously no need to change.
Quickload shows that a charge of 50.0 grs H4831 will get you in a projected ballpark of 2955 fps with a compressed load @ 105 % density / 97% powder burn /57,300 psi./COL 3.150/ Berger 130 Hunting VLD / 70 deg F.
Just as a comparison, a charge of 53.0 gr of RL-26 will achieve 56883 psi for a MV of 3094 / 100 % density and 100 % burn. I have an Xtra lb of it if you want to try give it a try. Either way , enjoy.
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Thanks for the info.....helps a lot.
I'd take you up on the Rl but I'm not near you and shipping would be $.
All appreciated
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My 6.5X47 loves the 130 Berger Hunting. Awesome deer bullet. I can push them at a comfortable 2980 fps out of a 26" Broughton with H4350. I would expect your 6.5X55 would be well over 3000 fps with R26, but I have no experience with the 6.5X55.
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06-14-2018, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan.M.Anderson
I must say I disagree with the above. Although, some people are getting really awesome speeds with the RL powders. I can never find them reliably so I have never used them.
I had a 6.5X55 on a 700LA. I used 48grs H4831SC (never tired the non SC but it should be close) under a 140gr Berger. I was pushing mid 2,800 FPS. It could have gone higher but that load was really good for me. I was running a 26" barrel.
I think with a 130 you could be in the 2,900 FPS range with 4831.
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Mine also works great with 48 gr H4831 and Berger 140 VLDs
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06-16-2018, 12:42 PM
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H4831 is screaming 6.5 Creedmor.
My 6.5 Swede Tikka loves R22.
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