Reports say China funded 11 Canadian political candidates in the last Federal election

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by densa44

It is not just that Foreign governments funded some of a few Liberal campaigns, what is next? Would they choose candidates, it wouldn't be that hard. Look at that guy Santos in the USA he was funded by it looks like foreign money.

We need a full open investigation and find ways to stop this. No one has yet mentioned Russia or the US but any thing is possible.

We are having enough trouble governing ourselves and the last thing we need is outside interference!

There will be no investigation, except to find out who leaked this to the media. Trudeau is well aware of what happened, but this will end up being yet another cover up. And the fact that so many idiots keep voting for his party, proves that they obviously don't care about the corruption. The fact that so many people don't care about the corruption, should be a good indication of just how bad things really are in Canada. It's times like this, that I am grateful ,that I am over 60, and have lived a good life, a life that future generations will not enjoy.

[Au revoir, Gopher]

Originally Posted by densa44

It is not just that Foreign governments funded some of a few Liberal campaigns, what is next? Would they choose candidates, it wouldn't be that hard. Look at that guy Santos in the USA he was funded by it looks like foreign money.

We need a full open investigation and find ways to stop this. No one has yet mentioned Russia or the US but any thing is possible.

We are having enough trouble governing ourselves and the last thing we need is outside interference!

They already are choosing candidates. From the article I posted:

Three sources with knowledge of the investigation said Dong emerged as a successor to MP Geng Tan as the 2019 Liberal candidate in ways the service found suspicious. These sources spoke to Global News on the condition of anonymity, which they requested because they risk prosecution under the Security of Information Act.

CSIS allegedly had intelligence that Beijing preferred Han Dong to Tan. “The Consulate was not pleased with Geng Tan’s performance,” a national security official aware of the service’s investigation told Global News.

ARG

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

Apathy is why we are in this mess. Congratulations.

oh I am concerned just know the difference between when and where to apply my efforts.

[traderal]

CSIS uncovered Chinese plan to donate to Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation - The Globe and Mail: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...liott-trudeau/

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by traderal

CSIS uncovered Chinese plan to donate to Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation - The Globe and Mail: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...liott-trudeau/

Maybe it's time we started t renaming Airports, tearing down statues and getting rid of the Trudeau name. I am extremely offended by this name and what it represents.

BW

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

There will be no investigation, except to find out who leaked this to the media. Trudeau is well aware of what happened, but this will end up being yet another cover up. And the fact that so many idiots keep voting for his party, proves that they obviously don't care about the corruption. The fact that so many people don't care about the corruption, should be a good indication of just how bad things really are in Canada. It's times like this, that I am grateful ,that I am over 60, and have lived a good life, a life that future generations will not enjoy.

One of the fundamental principles of liberal doctrine is "The power to reconstruct society".
The very notion that society needs to be "reconstructed" within the vision of a specific brand or set of ideals, and the power to maintain those ideals illuminates the stubborn intolerance of the liberal left. Dissent is not tolerated, thus the patent disregard for free speech. A true liberal votes liberal with a lifelong devotion despite obvious party deviations from traditionally accepted standards of ethics and morality. Quite the contradiction to proclaimed aspirations of things like "democracy, and transparency".
Every passing day exposes more liberal corruption.
About all we can hope for is that there are more fence-sitters in the country than true liberals. Those hopefully will vote with their brains engaged come next election.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by traderal

CSIS uncovered Chinese plan to donate to Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation - The Globe and Mail: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...liott-trudeau/

No wonder sparkle socks was just a tad apprehensive..

[Sundancefisher]

Pretty good article here

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-...ence-1.6292729

Worth the read

The Trudeau tipping point is within sight.
The moment when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau knows he has to quit for the good of the party or the Liberals realize they can’t survive re-election with him at the helm is almost upon us.
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The raging China saga has topped an annus horribilis year, which is not yet two months old, for a prime minister who now spends many days huddled in private meetings or touring the country to attend Liberal fundraisers while using ribbon-cuttings to disguise the travel tab as official government business.
The latest shrugged-off response from the prime minister’s office to growing demands for an inquiry into allegations China attempted electoral interference to help the Liberals secure another mandate is starting to look a lot like wilful blindness for partisan gain.
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And Trudeau’s attempt at detonating a distraction from the ongoing controversy is transparently pathetic.
'A TITANIC-LEVEL LEAKY SHIP'
Picture this: minutes before a Monday news conference the prime minister banished the popular TikTok app from government devices due to a security risk from China, this at the precise moment when demands for him to call an inquiry into Chinese manipulations of our electoral system reached a crescendo.
It would thus appear Trudeau sees a greater security threat in an app of limited deployment on government devices than five-alarm warnings of election manipulation from inside a spy agency so frustrated by his inaction that it’s become a Titanic-level leaky ship.
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The optics and the substance of China’s meddling are atrocious: an anti-democratic foreign power engages in dirty or illegal tactics to help the Liberals secure another mandate; one Liberal MP allegedly has Beijing loyalties, according to Global; and now the Globe and Mail reports China authorized a $1-million donation to the Pierre Elliot Trudeau Foundation to, among other things, erect a statue of the elder Trudeau. And, get this, the person Trudeau tagged to study the effectiveness of a panel monitoring the 2021 election for foreign threats ran that foundation.
You seriously can’t make up such a tangled web of incriminating evidence and yet Trudeau goes gunning for TikTok without producing any national security evidence that a dancing-kids app is being mining by its China developers for nefarious purposes.
Here’s a helpful hint Trudeau is taking great pains to ignore: When former spy agency leaders, the opposition parties and even friend and former top adviser Gerry Butts unite to urge some sort of probe into Chinese electoral interference, it’s either time to surrender to the notion or explain in much greater detail why it’s such a bad idea.
'THE DEAD CANARY DEMANDING A BETTER COAL MINE'
The dirty tricks outlined in Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) documents are not, as Trudeau alleges, a plot to shake Canadian confidence in our electoral system. They’re the dead canary demanding a better coal mine.
Add all this incendiary fuel to a bonfire of controversies in the last few months - be it his lousy choice of an anti-Islamophobia representative; the continuing asylum-seeker invasion at Roxham Road; ethical lapses by cabinet ministers Mary Ng and Ahmed Hussen; the McKinsey consulting mess; delays in the flawed medical assistance in dying and firearms control bills and the still-irritating passport office and airport snafus – and you’ve got to wonder how long this Liberal trainwreck can stay on track with NDP in the caboose.

Trudeau can’t continue to defer the China revelations to a parliamentary committee examining the issue.
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MPs on those committees never set out to get the truth in those partisan clashes. Their aim is to shape the narrative to fit their party’s position by badgering witnesses along ridiculous lines of questioning, which may or may not have anything to do with the issue under examination.
An independent clearing of the air is essential, be it a public inquiry or a probe by a respected Canadian given access to secret documents and CSIS insiders to determine the extent, effectiveness and electoral implications of any China-driven meddling in key ridings.
If Trudeau keeps stonewalling an inquiry, desperately deploying bogus distractions or giving grin-laced non-answers to pointed questions, he’ll soon reach the tipping point where the only tick tock he should worry about is the clock counting down his time left as prime minister.
That’s the bottom line.

[CBintheNorth]

Well now that's someone told them it's wrong, they'll give it back.
You can bet this is just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...tion-to-china/

[Sundancefisher]

Committee voted 6-5 in favour of a public hearing.


https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/oppo...ence-1.6296636

Liberals voted against. Opposition for.

Trudeau can ignore it.

People need to know the truth and what can be done to mitigate or prevent it.

[glen moa]

I take extreme issue with the interference being called very little.
Did the people that the ccp were backing get elected? Yes they did. Did the backing make the difference? How do you know.
Stop lying to me. I don’t buy any of it.

[Jim Blake]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Committee voted 6-5 in favour of a public hearing.


https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/oppo...ence-1.6296636

Liberals voted against. Opposition for.

Trudeau can ignore it.

People need to know the truth and what can be done to mitigate or prevent it.

I'm not so sure we will ever get the truth. Jody Thomas pretty much said in Committee that the information will be classified and likely redacted except for words like "and" and "the".

We have at least the right to know who the other 10 candidates were and what interference or contributions they received. Maybe Fife will have some more information and leaked documents and drip drip drip them out one at a time!!

[raab]

Trudeau is one of them which is why he will not investigate it.

This info was leaked by CSIS. So I would like to thank all the Canadian Patriots at high levels of government who are protecting us from the CCP and this corrupt government selling out our country.

Make no mistake the Liberal banner is RED for a reason.

[raab]

Just going to leave this interesting article about the Liberal party ties to China here. They have been in bed together since the original communist Pierre Trudeau and like junior they have never cared about the human rights abuses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-49f63b98944e/

[raab]

Originally Posted by tirebob

If this gets swept under the rug again like everything else we are legit doomed as a country.

Remember when you doubted my response about the new Edmonton bylaw?

You think the Federal politicians are the only politicians getting bought off by the CCP? Make no mistake they are influencing Provincial and Municipal levels as well.

If you want to learn more on the CCP interference I suggest buying Brigadier General Robert Spalding's book "Stealth War" as well as Peter Schweizer's "Red-Handed".

This is probably the best interview I have watched on the issue if you do not want to invest any cash into the problem.

https://youtu.be/_chGSgNPwVc

[raab]

When you know what is going on this comment by junior makes a lot of sense.

https://youtu.be/T8FuHuUhNZ0

[tirebob]

raab buddy... you gotta come up for a breath! You are a little too far down the rabbit hole...

First, communist China takes a far more anti-boobies in public line than we ever have, so I think you are a little overzealous in your worry on that one.

Also, red has been the colour of liberal parties long before communism was even an ideology. The liberal never adopted it as a sign of respect for them, not that I disagree that they do idolize them to a great degree as per the turds own words himself, but inventing things to freak out about attributed to them is wholly unnecessary considering there is so much legitimate stuff to focus on. It just makes rational people look a wee bit crazed.

[raab]

Originally Posted by tirebob

raab buddy... you gotta come up for a breath! You are a little too far down the rabbit hole...

First, communist China takes a far more anti-boobies in public line than we ever have, so I think you are a little overzealous in your worry on that one.

Also, red has been the colour of liberal parties long before communism was even an ideology. The liberal never adopted it as a sign of respect for them, not that I disagree that they do idolize them to a great degree as per the turds own words himself, but inventing things to freak out about attributed to them is wholly unnecessary considering there is so much legitimate stuff to focus on. It just makes rational people look a wee bit crazed.

As I said the Liberal party has been aligned with communists since Pierre Trudeau. There is a reason Pierre went to Cuba & China. Not saying the CPC doesn't have their faults as well but the Liberals and China have deep ties.

And the whole thing about anti-boobie policy is simple. It is a way to divide the population. It is also a way to destroy our common held traditions and beliefs so that we no longer have any national identity.

The CCP & Russia know that if they can divide us and cause internal turmoil, it will be easier when they want to move in on territories like the Ukraine or Taiwan. It is an old playbook going back to at least the Vietnam war. Where the US lost due to social unrest at home, with some of the movements backed by communist Russia.

Because Reagan is one of my political heroes, I will leave you with this great Reagan clip. I sincerely hope you will consider that what I am telling you is the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqvqPSNCWY

[EZM]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

There will be no investigation, except to find out who leaked this to the media. Trudeau is well aware of what happened, but this will end up being yet another cover up. And the fact that so many idiots keep voting for his party, proves that they obviously don't care about the corruption. .

Agreed, of course Trudeau will cover this up.

As far as people go, unfortunately if there is corruption or lies that suit their personal agendas - support their candidates - people tend to overlook (or defend) crap like that because they choose to be blind to it.

Happens with any and all political persuasions.

In my opinion, the values we once had, like truth and integrity as paramount tenants, have very little value in today's society. I am a decade younger than you, and I still see the same thing you do. The great decline of values and morals.

[Sundancefisher]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ele...ster-1.6779004

Liberals are fighting tooth and nail to stop Telford from testifying.

Likely what they are doing is crafting her story, what to say and what not to say…

Or they want to call an early election to shut down all committees again.

But everyone must be asking… why doesth thou fight so hard if the truth is on your side?

[coolpete1]

Budget comes next week, its a confidence bill . I guess we will see if jughead is a communist sympathizer or not. My guess is an election is coming , hopefully toronto stops acting retarded this time.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by coolpete1

Budget comes next week, its a confidence bill . I guess we will see if jughead is a communist sympathizer or not. My guess is an election is coming , hopefully toronto stops acting retarded this time.

How about the entire east coast?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

How about the entire east coast?

Exactly!

[glen moa]

Hold off on the election until they stop the ccp from voting.

[Scott h]

The report only goes back to the last election, but in fact the Chinese helped Justin get in all the way back in 2015. Did it tip the balance putting him in office, and pushing Harper out??? We'll never know but he definitely doesn't want an independent search into it.

"In 2015, the year before real estate investor Yuan sent money to Trudeau’s riding association, the former member of China’s People’s Liberation Army made cash buy-ins totalling $4.19 million at River Rock in Richmond...."


https://biv.com/article/2023/03/cash...-2015-and-2016

[AxeMan]

So now we have the "Special Rapporteur" appointed by Trudeau.
David Johnston

Were the opposition parties consulted as Trudeau promised? No.
Is David Johnston in a complete conflict of interest position? Absolutely.

It is an admitted fact that the Trudeau Foundation accepted at least $200K from the Chinese government for influence. It was just returned when they were forced to admit it. So now we have David Johnston to investigate this and more while he sits as the Executive Advisor to the Trudeau Foundation.

https://www.trudeaufoundation.ca/member/david-johnston

But Justin will cling to the defense that Stephen Harper appointed Johnston as GG, while he again dictates his own investigation.

[heretohunt]

Well, I’m surprised the new man doesn’t have a Chinese name. However Trudeau should be able to vouch for him. He’s known him his whole life.
“It was during his time in that role that he became acquainted with Pierre and Margaret Trudeau, as the Johnston children played with the Trudeau children when the families were at their adjacent cottages in the Laurentians.”

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Scott h

The report only goes back to the last election, but in fact the Chinese helped Justin get in all the way back in 2015. Did it tip the balance putting him in office, and pushing Harper out??? We'll never know but he definitely doesn't want an independent search into it.

"In 2015, the year before real estate investor Yuan sent money to Trudeau’s riding association, the former member of China’s People’s Liberation Army made cash buy-ins totalling $4.19 million at River Rock in Richmond...."


https://biv.com/article/2023/03/cash...-2015-and-2016

Media was pushing that the head election guy in the conservatives said he didn’t see any significant election interference issues. They ran that hard… however no one seems to ask the question… did the guy know then what the CSIS leaks has said recently.

I’m thinking everyone who thought it was good and wasn’t in the Liberal camp is likely thinking there is more to the story.

Sounds like there was interference in nominations and then in the actual elections.

It’s also likely very hard after the fact to accurately assess total impact on all voters. Interference targeting O’Toole could of swayed votes. Riding nominations could of selected candidates that got elected. Elections that were tight could have been impacted.

Without an impartial investigation we won’t know the impact if any.

[Sundancefisher]

CBC feels under pressure to appear somewhat neutral?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nsi...ence-1.6769938

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has acknowledged his government hasn't always listened to recommendations on foreign election interference from one of its intelligence review bodies.

His comments came Monday night as he tasked the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) with once again reviewing the issue of foreign interference in Canada, with a special eye on election meddling.

[Savage Bacon]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

CBC feels under pressure to appear somewhat neutral?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nsi...ence-1.6769938

Maybe trying to get in the good books of their new owners.

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