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Old 05-14-2023, 09:12 AM
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The problem is no matter how mad you are at the UCP because of the last 3 years. Make no mistake the NDP would have made things worse for everyone.
As bad as covid was, it would have been much worse under the NDP. They were against lifting the mandates, and the mandates would have continued on much longer, bankrupting many more businesses/people.
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Old 05-14-2023, 09:15 AM
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The problem is no matter how mad you are at the UCP because of the last 3 years. Make no mistake the NDP would have made things worse for everyone.
Oh I get that and have had enough of the NDP living in B.C.. I delayed my move back to Alberta because of the last time Alberta voted them in to. The scary thing is the NDP seems to be getting worse. There was actually a time I actually just thought they were a meh party that had some political stances and spending I didn’t agree but now they are completely negative towards my personal lifestyle and financially destructive

but there is people who are of the belief they are going to “ teach the UCP a lesson “ and the 4 years of NDP destruction is worth it. It’s straight up spite thinking that the politicians are going to suffer but they really don’t
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Old 05-14-2023, 09:49 AM
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Oh I get that and have had enough of the NDP living in B.C.. I delayed my move back to Alberta because of the last time Alberta voted them in to. The scary thing is the NDP seems to be getting worse. There was actually a time I actually just thought they were a meh party that had some political stances and spending I didn’t agree but now they are completely negative towards my personal lifestyle and financially destructive

but there is people who are of the belief they are going to “ teach the UCP a lesson “ and the 4 years of NDP destruction is worth it. It’s straight up spite thinking that the politicians are going to suffer but they really don’t
Four more years of the NDP , would hurt the province, far more than it would hurt the UCP. The province might never recover from the damage done in four years.
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Old 05-14-2023, 11:37 AM
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Four more years of the NDP , would hurt the province, far more than it would hurt the UCP. The province might never recover from the damage done in four years.
In full agreement but there are others who don’t share our opinion
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Old 05-14-2023, 12:21 PM
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I'm interested to hear what the different views are of "Take Back Alberta" are. If what I understand is correct they are quite a radical group and are quite interwoven within the UCP.
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As far as I can tell they are encouraging civil engagement as a way to create accountability for elected officials.
Encouraging people to get involved and educating them on how to do so.

Kinda the basis of proper democracy.

As far as the “far right” label being tossed around by media, it’s a baseless slander.
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Old 05-14-2023, 12:36 PM
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As far as I can tell they are encouraging civil engagement as a way to create accountability for elected officials.
Encouraging people to get involved and educating them on how to do so.

Kinda the basis of proper democracy.

As far as the “far right” label being tossed around by media, it’s a baseless slander.
In the clown world we live in even the federal liberal party from 20 years ago would probably be considered far right. The right didn’t really change the left went way left.
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Old 05-14-2023, 01:33 PM
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In the clown world we live in even the federal liberal party from 20 years ago would probably be considered far right. The right didn’t really change the left went way left.
This I agree with 100%
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Old 05-14-2023, 01:45 PM
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In the clown world we live in even the federal liberal party from 20 years ago would probably be considered far right. The right didn’t really change the left went way left.
Yes the traditional left has been high jacked by extremists.

I saw a CBC article referenced that suggests the ndp is a centerist party.
I think the modern word for these lies is “gaslighting”
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:18 PM
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Four more years of the NDP , would hurt the province, far more than it would hurt the UCP. The province might never recover from the damage done in four years.
What I really don’t get is how so many people say I’m not voting for Smith.
Unless you live in her riding your not voting for Smith. Why not focus on candidate in your own riding, because I’m pretty sure the candidate in your riding would really appreciated the support. As far as Smith goes she made a mistake now the way I see it there isn’t a single person in this great province we live in that hasn’t screwed up at some point in their lives so one should move past that. If you think Smith will destroy this great province I think you’d be very wrong!
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:31 PM
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What I really don’t get is how so many people say I’m not voting for Smith.
Unless you live in her riding your not voting for Smith. Why not focus on candidate in your own riding, because I’m pretty sure the candidate in your riding would really appreciated the support. As far as Smith goes she made a mistake now the way I see it there isn’t a single person in this great province we live in that hasn’t screwed up at some point in their lives so one should move past that. If you think Smith will destroy this great province I think you’d be very wrong!
Fully agreed!
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What I really don’t get is how so many people say I’m not voting for Smith.
Unless you live in her riding your not voting for Smith. Why not focus on candidate in your own riding, because I’m pretty sure the candidate in your riding would really appreciated the support. As far as Smith goes she made a mistake now the way I see it there isn’t a single person in this great province we live in that hasn’t screwed up at some point in their lives so one should move past that. If you think Smith will destroy this great province I think you’d be very wrong!
These are the people that already support the dippers. The conservatives are still united which they’ll try to fracture at all costs.
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:34 PM
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In the clown world we live in even the federal liberal party from 20 years ago would probably be considered far right. The right didn’t really change the left went way left.
Bingo
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Old 05-14-2023, 02:48 PM
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Four more years of the NDP , would hurt the province, far more than it would hurt the UCP. The province might never recover from the damage done in four years.
Yep, voting NDP does nothing but hurt the province and its people. This is especially true for the poor. The politicians will be just fine because they have the ability to up and leave.

It amazes me how people don't see whats happening here. If anyone knows about Mao's cultural revolution, it's happening right in front of you. The latest example is Trudeau changing the passport. They want you to forget what it was once like to live in Canada. They're destroying anything we were taught to take pride in like erasing our heroic victory at Vimy Ridge, or how Terry Fox was one of our own.

Mark my words, your children will not be living in a free Canada or Alberta if we continue on the current trajectory.
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Old 05-14-2023, 03:21 PM
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Here's Pierre's take on the whole passport issue. I can not wait until this man is Prime Minister of Canada.


https://youtu.be/iPGRYxjGsC8
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Old 05-14-2023, 04:52 PM
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And yet……

Never seen so many NDP signs in Pincher and the Pass

On private lawns….

This is significant.
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And yet……

Never seen so many NDP signs in Pincher and the Pass

On private lawns….

This is significant.
I only see one orange sign in my neighborhood , and if they don't do something with their dandelions soon, they can expect a visit from bylaw.
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Old 05-14-2023, 05:30 PM
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And yet……

Never seen so many NDP signs in Pincher and the Pass

On private lawns….

This is significant.
In my travels around Sylvan lake and red deer orange signs seem rare on private lawns

But Alberta is a big province and most people don’t put signs on their lawns so we won’t know until it’s all over
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Old 05-14-2023, 05:39 PM
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What I have noticed in my community is any orange sign on a lawn is on a rental property with either a tacoma with a Patagonia sticker on it or an older Subaru. Blue signs are on lawns of home owners with tidy lawns and decently aged vehicles.
I did see the enemy door knocking yesterday. Yet to see the ucp candidate but his signs do seem to outweigh the orange at this time.
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Old 05-14-2023, 06:05 PM
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What I have noticed in my community is any orange sign on a lawn is on a rental property with either a tacoma with a Patagonia sticker on it or an older Subaru. Blue signs are on lawns of home owners with tidy lawns and decently aged vehicles.
I did see the enemy door knocking yesterday. Yet to see the ucp candidate but his signs do seem to outweigh the orange at this time.
You equate votes to vehicle owned ...
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Old 05-14-2023, 06:38 PM
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What I have noticed in my community is any orange sign on a lawn is on a rental property with either a tacoma with a Patagonia sticker on it or an older Subaru. Blue signs are on lawns of home owners with tidy lawns and decently aged vehicles.
I did see the enemy door knocking yesterday. Yet to see the ucp candidate but his signs do seem to outweigh the orange at this time.
Dipper cowards don’t even knock, they just slip a pamphlet (next to the no soliciting sign) in the door.
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You equate votes to vehicle owned ...
You can tell alot about a person by what kind of vehicle they drive the stickers they have on that vehicle (if any) and the condition of their residence/lawn.

If I came across my rental property with an orange sign on the lawn the chances of me raising their rent as soon as I am able to get them to move out would be significant.
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Old 05-14-2023, 07:48 PM
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You can tell alot about a person by what kind of vehicle they drive the stickers they have on that vehicle (if any) and the condition of their residence/lawn.

If I came across my rental property with an orange sign on the lawn the chances of me raising their rent as soon as I am able to get them to move out would be significant.
No doubt! They are, of course, the enemy!
Boy do they ever deserve to have their rent doubled!! No one should have an alternate voting choice!!!

Mebe you could punch them renters too…. Lil violence…. They prolly had it coming.




My neighbor is never my enemy for having differeing election views.

All the spiral thinking here. Sad.
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You can tell alot about a person by what kind of vehicle they drive the stickers they have on that vehicle (if any) and the condition of their residence/lawn.

If I came across my rental property with an orange sign on the lawn the chances of me raising their rent as soon as I am able to get them to move out would be significant.
Ya that’s kinda sad really. You should put that in the rental agreements. “If they don’t vote the way I want , you will face rental hikes or evictions.”

Let us know how it works out.
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No doubt! They are, of course, the enemy!
Boy do they ever deserve to have their rent doubled!! No one should have an alternate voting choice!!!

Mebe you could punch them renters too…. Lil violence…. They prolly had it coming.





My neighbor is never my enemy for having differeing election views.

All the spiral thinking here. Sad.
It is sad ... apparently democracy is only good if your (my) side wins ...
And the whole enemy thing ....geeze ...
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Old 05-14-2023, 09:38 PM
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Bessie, Ron and Jungleboy.. do you happen to own any rental properties?

NDP have considered a rent control in their past (and has been implemented in many other provinces by liberal/NDP governments). This never takes into account the significant increase in house prices/interest rates/insurance/property taxes.

As an owner of multiple rental properties, I also would not be happy with tenants of mine trying to limit my ability to offset my costs by promoting a socialist/dipper government.

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Old 05-14-2023, 09:46 PM
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It is sad ... apparently democracy is only good if your (my) side wins ...
And the whole enemy thing ....geeze ...
Democracy is only good when the citizens are operating off a true reality. The fact is NDP voters are more likely to be misinformed thanks to Notley’s lies about Smith and the UCP.

Never mind the fact that by voting for Notley and Trudeau folks support someone who has called your fellow Albertans Sewer Rats, the countries embarrassing cousins, fascists, white supremacists and racists. I could never support someone who is as divisive and disrespecting to my fellow Albertans. Then again I enjoyed it when everyone got along and everything wasn’t politicized.
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Old 05-14-2023, 11:09 PM
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The orange sign by one of my farms will be gone in the morning.
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I hate to say it but it's too close to call! The urbanites have been dumbed down enough to get their gal Rachel into her old job again. That should get everyone their free stuff from the gubermint and drive away any investment into the province. But hey, who care about money when there's freebies!!!!!
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Let’s be clear there is some misdirected anger in my post maybe it’s the PTSD from the last time Rachel was in charge of this province and the amount of sweeping change that was rammed through.The way I see it a vote for the NDP is a vote for sparkle socks and Jagmeat if you are ok with killing industry and prosperity in this province while rewarding the lazy then I guess a vote for the NDP is for you.

Make no mistake I think of Danielle can limp across the finish line to a miraculous victory they will have to replace her with someone that isn’t so polarizing. At this point it seems like every other day she opens her mouth and either endorses someone completely offside (street preacher) or says something stupid it’s almost like she wants to lose.
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Let’s be clear there is some misdirected anger in my post maybe it’s the PTSD from the last time Rachel was in charge of this province and the amount of sweeping change that was rammed through.The way I see it a vote for the NDP is a vote for sparkle socks and Jagmeat if you are ok with killing industry and prosperity in this province while rewarding the lazy then I guess a vote for the NDP is for you.

Make no mistake I think of Danielle can limp across the finish line to a miraculous victory they will have to replace her with someone that isn’t so polarizing. At this point it seems like every other day she opens her mouth and either endorses someone completely offside (street preacher) or says something stupid it’s almost like she wants to lose.
Absolutely. Also what is her take (no pun intended) on the Turd's gun grab. I have never heard her mention anything about it if she did. Seems odd the media hasn't asked her either which is not a surprise.
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