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04-26-2012, 02:48 PM
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Planning on doing some backcountry fishing this summer at a few locations where there's a good chance we could run into some bears.
Obviously the first line defense will be common sense regarding food storage and fish cleaning, but should the worst case scenario present itself I'd like to be prepared.
My options for defense are a .22, .243, 7MMRM, and a 12 guage 870 express mag.
Obviously the only thing that will stop a ****ed off bear in his tracks is the 870, but I have zero experience with slugs, only used the 870 for waterfoul and clay pigeons.
Looking for some recommedations as far as brand and size (the 870 accepts 2 3/4 up to 3 1/2 inch shells).
Thanks
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04-26-2012, 02:57 PM
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take the 22 that way if you see a rabbit you can make rabbit stew!!!
also it's great for hiking as 100 rounds takes up very little space
99% of the time it's the loud noise that scares the bear anyway.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3VdxHvQqsk
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04-27-2012, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_e_o
take the 22 that way if you see a rabbit you can make rabbit stew!!!
also it's great for hiking as 100 rounds takes up very little space
99% of the time it's the loud noise that scares the bear anyway.
observe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3VdxHvQqsk
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But there is always the chance that the proverbial dice are going to roll that tricky 1%.
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04-27-2012, 08:15 AM
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I put 2-3/4" rifled Winchester rackmaster slugs in my Mossberg 835 rifled barrel (I know, but they are the only slugs that are consistent through that barrel and I've spent hundreds trying to figure it out). I also use them in my 14" HP9 (Norinco 870 clone) with great grouping. They are inexpensive and the right tool for the job. By the way the first one in the mag is buckshot the last three are slugs.
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04-27-2012, 08:58 AM
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I would use 2 SSG followed by a slug. ssg has about 8 pellets in 243 diam, so
multiple wound channells. shhot a peice of plywood with a slug, at 25yds, and you will have a hole the size of the slug, shoot the same peice of plywood at 25yds with ssg, and you will have a 5-6" hole. they are devastating.
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04-27-2012, 10:28 AM
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Thanks for the adivce, think I'll pick up some fed or win 2 3/4 for the next trip to the range just to get a feel for them.
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04-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spurly
I would use 2 SSG followed by a slug. ssg has about 8 pellets in 243 diam, so
multiple wound channells. shhot a peice of plywood with a slug, at 25yds, and you will have a hole the size of the slug, shoot the same peice of plywood at 25yds with ssg, and you will have a 5-6" hole. they are devastating.
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I will use this for plywood defence. Bears need slugs.
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04-26-2012, 02:58 PM
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If you can find them Brenneke are the best, but hard to find. 2 3/4 is all you need. Federal and remington slugs are good also. In tight quarters double or triple ought buckshot is devastating, My brother put down a blackie at about 3 yards with double ought and it was devastating to the bear, you could almost walk inside of the hole lol
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04-26-2012, 03:03 PM
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Pretty well any "rifled" slug will do the job for close range self defence.
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04-26-2012, 03:04 PM
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Really, any slug will do the trick if put on target. You can spend a fortune on Uber Super Slugs and such, and that is fine if you are hunting deer and want a 2" group at 100 yrds.....but for bear defense? You better be shooting inside 50, maybe 25 yrds at a charging bear or it isn't self defense anymore, is it? And at that range, any huge hunk of lead that you put on target will be equally effective. Just my .02, but the cheapo Federal blue box slugs, in 2 3/4" or 3" work just fine, and I can hammer stumps all day out to 75 yrds with them. Close enough for government work in my book. Also, as mentioned, 00 Buck up close works wonders on changing a bears direction. I generally alternate buck and slugs in my BPS when out and about. Luckily, it is all theoretical to me, never had to use it on anything. But ohhhhh, the tempation sometimes.
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04-26-2012, 03:05 PM
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Personally I recommend 2 3/4", 1oz slugs, from any of the major brands. Many (most?) people agree that 3" is unnecessary and 3 1/2" is overkill.
I go with cheap $5-6 per box slugs. Definitely no need for sabot rounds. Try a few different brands and pick the one that comes closest to your point of aim at your anticipated shooting ranges.
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04-27-2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by alpining
Personally I recommend 2 3/4", 1oz slugs, from any of the major brands. Many (most?) people agree that 3" is unnecessary and 3 1/2" is overkill.
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Not overkill at all. The extra speed produced ripps the soft lead apart and actually will have less affect on game. I always tried to buy brenneke slugs as they were harder and went straight through anything standing in the way. Price wise these were about the same as cheap ones from Win and Rem, just harder to find. If all I have is regular Walmart slugs then 2-3/4 is the way to go. no buckshot for me thanks.
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