Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > Guns & Ammo Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-27-2024, 08:17 PM
heretohunt's Avatar
heretohunt heretohunt is online now
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,247
Default .243 Barnes load data for 80gn ttsx

Could someone please look up some load data for me in an old Barnes manual. I’m looking for the 80 grain TTSX data for 243.
H4340 and Varget loads specifically but other options are alway good. I am hearing some conflicting information and thought it would be best to go to the source.
It seems like the current online data is pretty limited.
Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-27-2024, 08:22 PM
spurly spurly is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Crowsnest Pass
Posts: 2,395
Default Load

https://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-con...Winchester.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-27-2024, 08:37 PM
heretohunt's Avatar
heretohunt heretohunt is online now
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,247
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spurly View Post
Thank you for that. I have seen that and the loads I’m looking for are not there. Actually, I only have the one of those powders and it’s not great in my rifle.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-27-2024, 09:35 PM
madcarpenter's Avatar
madcarpenter madcarpenter is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lacombe, Alberta
Posts: 244
Default

It’s a wicked little bullet. Push it fast and accurate. It’s my current go to 243 bullet.


-Mad
__________________
This is Ford Country and On a quiet Night you can Hear a Chevy Rust.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-27-2024, 10:48 PM
FishOutOfWater FishOutOfWater is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 1,031
Default

It's not from the Barnes manual, and is for the 85gr TSX, but maybe helpful...



Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-27-2024, 11:49 PM
PartTimeHunter PartTimeHunter is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Drayton Valley
Posts: 1,260
Default

Did you try looking here:

https://hodgdonreloading.com/?_ga=2....939.1645033436
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-28-2024, 12:03 PM
Hunter Trav Hunter Trav is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,695
Default

Here is the data from the Barnes #4 manual. Hopefully the pic is clear enough for you.

Sent from my SM-A037W using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-28-2024, 12:05 PM
Hunter Trav Hunter Trav is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,695
Default

Pic didnt add for some reason on that first reply...

Sent from my SM-A037W using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-28-2024, 12:54 PM
heretohunt's Avatar
heretohunt heretohunt is online now
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,247
Default

Thank you. Is there anything for the 80 gr TTSX?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-28-2024, 06:52 PM
heretohunt's Avatar
heretohunt heretohunt is online now
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,247
Default

Here is some feedback if anyone is interested.
Of course, I will give you the disclaimer that this is in my rifle and I will not be using it in my other one without working up. If you choose to use this data, you should do the same.
243 Winchester, with 80 gr TTSX, Coal. 2.61 inches, federal 210 primers, Winchester, brass, and h4350
I started at 40.5 gn and got 3023 ft./s. I carefully worked my way up to 45.7 grains with no pressure signs. The speed there was 3446.4 ft./s. Probably I will be using 45 grains as it looks like a promising node.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-30-2024, 03:23 AM
FishOutOfWater FishOutOfWater is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 1,031
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by heretohunt View Post
Here is some feedback if anyone is interested.
Of course, I will give you the disclaimer that this is in my rifle and I will not be using it in my other one without working up. If you choose to use this data, you should do the same.
243 Winchester, with 80 gr TTSX, Coal. 2.61 inches, federal 210 primers, Winchester, brass, and h4350
I started at 40.5 gn and got 3023 ft./s. I carefully worked my way up to 45.7 grains with no pressure signs. The speed there was 3446.4 ft./s. Probably I will be using 45 grains as it looks like a promising node.
If you're not seeing pressure signs, I guess. But I would've started a few grains lower, and probably would not exceed ~42gr... If it were me.

I say this because of the data for the 85gr I posted, and the data on Hogdon for the Hornady 80gr GMX (which has almost identical S/D and coefficient as the TTSX).

And ~3450 FPS is really pushing it with an 80gr...

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-30-2024, 07:55 AM
madcarpenter's Avatar
madcarpenter madcarpenter is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lacombe, Alberta
Posts: 244
Default

__________________
This is Ford Country and On a quiet Night you can Hear a Chevy Rust.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-30-2024, 10:44 AM
Bushrat's Avatar
Bushrat Bushrat is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 6,932
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by heretohunt View Post
Here is some feedback if anyone is interested.
Of course, I will give you the disclaimer that this is in my rifle and I will not be using it in my other one without working up. If you choose to use this data, you should do the same.
243 Winchester, with 80 gr TTSX, Coal. 2.61 inches, federal 210 primers, Winchester, brass, and h4350
I started at 40.5 gn and got 3023 ft./s. I carefully worked my way up to 45.7 grains with no pressure signs. The speed there was 3446.4 ft./s. Probably I will be using 45 grains as it looks like a promising node.
Brass dosen't generally show signs of over pressure till about 70,000+ /psi which is way over pressure. Velocity above what book maximums show is a sign of overpressure. Most of us without pressure testing equipment cannot tell what pressure value we are dealing with as we have no way to test for it. The best measure of pressure most shooters have available to them is velocity, if we are getting higher velocity than the books show with their max loads or higher than max load we should pay attention to it. It is good that rifles have a safety threshold built into them and won't blow up with overcharges but because they may not blow up dosen't mean the rifle will not eventually show cumulative damage like lug setback and metal fatigue if overcharges are continually used over time.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-30-2024, 10:55 AM
catnthehat's Avatar
catnthehat catnthehat is online now
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ft. McMurray
Posts: 38,612
Default

I ignore most pressure signs except for velocity and bolt lift- if you have hard bolt lift, you are already over pressure for your riflle no matter what the books say as far as data goes .
Cat
__________________
Anytime I figure I've got this long range thing figured out, I just strap into the sling and irons and remind myself that I don't!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-28-2024, 08:26 PM
Hunter Trav Hunter Trav is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,695
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by heretohunt View Post
Thank you. Is there anything for the 80 gr TTSX?
No sorry nothing for the 80gr. Next closet one down was a 75gr TSX I believe.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-29-2024, 06:12 AM
madcarpenter's Avatar
madcarpenter madcarpenter is online now
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lacombe, Alberta
Posts: 244
Default

The 80gr load data is on their web page. It’s been updated.
__________________
This is Ford Country and On a quiet Night you can Hear a Chevy Rust.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-29-2024, 09:18 AM
stob stob is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,434
Default

I used the load data on the superformance cannister..approx 3500fps and accurate
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.