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03-15-2011, 04:50 PM
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Egg shells and ice fishing?
I heard an old timer tell me that dropping egg shells down the hole attracts fish to the area? Is there any truth to this?
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03-15-2011, 05:09 PM
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I don't know if it attracts them but it sure makes it easier to see fish. I have used them for years and it sure doesn't scare them away.
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03-15-2011, 06:33 PM
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would that not be chummin
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03-15-2011, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by harrydude
would that not be chummin
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No I don't think it is chumming but it would be littering.
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03-15-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by goober
No I don't think it is chumming but it would be littering.
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You are right sir A letter I received
Thank you for visiting the Alberta Government feedback web site. Following is the response to your question prepared by Environment :
Thank you for writing to Alberta Connects.
No, egg shells cannot be put on a lake bottom.
Section 181 of EPEA states that no one shall dispose of waste on, or under ice, unless they have an approval (which you couldn't get for this type of request). Egg shells would be considered waste, and you would be fined for using them in this manner.
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03-15-2011, 09:01 PM
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And the same goes for putting white beans down the hole - it's not allowed, and considered littering.
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03-15-2011, 10:14 PM
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Use light colored beach stone it's legal
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03-16-2011, 08:57 AM
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Re
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03-16-2011, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Photoplex
And the same goes for putting white beans down the hole - it's not allowed, and considered littering.
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Have you been told this by SRD?
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03-16-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by duffy4
Have you been told this by SRD?
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I think it was covered in the thread mofugger linked to earlier in this thread. It was either waste or chumming
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03-16-2011, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Photoplex
And the same goes for putting white beans down the hole - it's not allowed, and considered littering. ?
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Originally Posted by duffy4
Have you been told this by SRD?
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Pretty sure beans would be considered "bait" that's not attached to your hook, and therefore be chumming and illegal. But that's just the way I read it.
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03-16-2011, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MoFugger21
Pretty sure beans would be considered "bait" that's not attached to your hook, and therefore be chumming and illegal. But that's just the way I read it.
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Sorry, that's what I meant too - chumming, not littering.
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03-16-2011, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by goober
No I don't think it is chumming but it would be littering.
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Eggshells are compost. I do not use them when fishing nor do I know if they assist in angling but this I do know, they do not harm or pollute a waterbody, not litter IMO.
Not rocket science.
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03-16-2011, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfinder
Eggshells are compost. I do not use them when fishing nor do I know if they assist in angling but this I do know, they do not harm or pollute a waterbody, not litter IMO.
Not rocket science.
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The SRD already said it's littering. And theirs is the only opinion that matter
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03-16-2011, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye101
I heard an old timer tell me that dropping egg shells down the hole attracts fish to the area? Is there any truth to this?
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Eggshells (and white beans, white gravel etc) is usually put down ice fishing holes to help you see fish, not to attract fish. The material that lands on the bottom provides a high contrast backdrop that makes it easier to see fish against when you have you're looking down.
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03-16-2011, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Photoplex
The SRD already said it's littering. And theirs is the only opinion that matter
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True. Like said, I do no not use them. Nevertheless, I could care less what SRD's opinion is on the matter. I know they do no harm water as FACT, so if SRD has an issue with it, they best state it more clearly. As far as I am concerned, it does no harm to the waterbody or the fish contained within it. Till fact or Science proofs me theory wrong...if u wanna use shells....shell on.
I would gladly take this matter to court with anyone.
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03-16-2011, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Photoplex
Eggshells (and white beans, white gravel etc) is usually put down ice fishing holes to help you see fish, not to attract fish. The material that lands on the bottom provides a high contrast backdrop that makes it easier to see fish against when you have you're looking down.
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Soooooooo, whats the problem? (gravel = no for obvious reasons.)
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03-16-2011, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfinder
Soooooooo, whats the problem? (gravel = no for obvious reasons.)
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What problem... I'm not the one that has a problem with it! Theyyyyy do! ----> SRD
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03-16-2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfinder
True. Like said, I do no not use them. Nevertheless, I could care less what SRD's opinion is on the matter. I know they do no harm water as FACT, so if SRD has an issue with it, they best state it more clearly. As far as I am concerned, it does no harm to the waterbody or the fish contained within it. Till fact or Science proofs me theory wrong...if u wanna use shells....shell on.
I would gladly take this matter to court with anyone.
Cheers
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sure its not if you drop a couple but lets say 1000 people who fish a lake drop a couple down every time they goout now we are talking into the 10000s. when those things biodegrade, they dont just vanish into nothing. they leave chemical traces behind. just like they do in your compost. the difference with a compost is usually something eats these chemicals. in the water they will just be in the water. on a small scale little additions dont matter. but if everyone and their uncle were to adopt small scale narrow minded opinions then its a different story.
oh and if you think the courts would side with the guy putting foreign objects in the water, your wrong. they may think the matter is stupid and a waste of time but they are not going to side with you.
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03-16-2011, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfinder
Soooooooo, whats the problem? (gravel = no for obvious reasons.)
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Beach gravel is the only thing you can use legally
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03-16-2011, 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishfinder
True. Like said, I do no not use them. Nevertheless, I could care less what SRD's opinion is on the matter. I know they do no harm water as FACT, so if SRD has an issue with it, they best state it more clearly. As far as I am concerned, it does no harm to the waterbody or the fish contained within it. Till fact or Science proofs me theory wrong...if u wanna use shells....shell on.
I would gladly take this matter to court with anyone.
Cheers
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I am with you on this one finder. I have never heard of anybody being questioned on this before or had F&W look down a hole. I just use the shells to see better. They have "better fish to fry".
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03-16-2011, 11:18 PM
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Using Eggshells was common everywhere we fished through the ice when I was a kid. It was never discussed as an attractant, but only to brighten the bottom backdrop as mentioned above.. Can't agree with the littering aspect too much either but I don't know much about it these days..
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03-16-2011, 11:39 PM
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I never heard about putting egg shells down your fishing hole so I have a couple of questions about it:
I know that the clarity of the water would play a big role however, typically how far down do the egg shells tend to disappear?
Do you fellas that put the egg shells in look down your fishing hole all of the time or just glance in them once in awhile?
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03-17-2011, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterDave
I never heard about putting egg shells down your fishing hole so I have a couple of questions about it:
I know that the clarity of the water would play a big role however, typically how far down do the egg shells tend to disappear?
Do you fellas that put the egg shells in look down your fishing hole all of the time or just glance in them once in awhile?
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used egg shells down the hole in Ont. years ago only used them if bottom was dark and water clarity was sufficient to make bottom out some places could be 7 fow others 15fow was just used to show fish profile off the bottom. Was not illegal at that time not sure if it is there yet but know it is here. but with camera's and flashers no real need now.
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03-17-2011, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by horsetrader
used egg shells down the hole in Ont. years ago only used them if bottom was dark and water clarity was sufficient to make bottom out some places could be 7 fow others 15fow was just used to show fish profile off the bottom. Was not illegal at that time not sure if it is there yet but know it is here. but with camera's and flashers no real need now.
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I just couldn't see myself staring down a hole all day.
Just for fun..............I did allot of ice fishing in Ontario too. We'd just break a small branch off of a tree, freeze it in the ice hanging over the hole, drop the line in and hook the line to the branch. When the branch moved then you had a fish at your bait. I'm a bit more advanced now and I have an icefishing rod in one hole.
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03-17-2011, 01:21 AM
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more stupid rules created by stupid people
i compost egg shells in my compost pile i think i need to be spanked by some F****T judge
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03-17-2011, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pattycr125
more stupid rules created by stupid people
i compost egg shells in my compost pile i think i need to be spanked by some F****T judge
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My compost pile is a mixture of cow manure, kitchen scraps(including egg shells), nitrogen fertilized, old compost and grass clippings. I dont need a judge as common sense tells me not to throw any of it into the lake.
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03-17-2011, 05:51 AM
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"My compost pile is a mixture of cow manure, kitchen scraps(including egg shells), nitrogen fertilized, old compost and grass clippings. I dont need a judge as common sense tells me not to throw any of it into the lake."
Exactly
Anyone know how long it takes to break down the egg shells in the water?
Or how much oxygen it requires to do it?
If it wasnt originally there then dont put it in!
Last edited by huntsfurfish; 03-17-2011 at 05:57 AM.
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03-17-2011, 06:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by huntsfurfish
"My compost pile is a mixture of cow manure, kitchen scraps(including egg shells), nitrogen fertilized, old compost and grass clippings. I dont need a judge as common sense tells me not to throw any of it into the lake."
Exactly
Anyone know how long it takes to break down the egg shells in the water?
Or how much oxygen it requires to do it?
If it wasnt originally there then dont put it in!
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I have no idea how long it takes for egg shells to break down but the next duck i see is going to get an earfull.
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