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Old 08-18-2015, 10:45 AM
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Old 08-18-2015, 10:55 AM
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Old 08-18-2015, 10:58 AM
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And people will stillvote for this idiot.
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Suit those a**holes up and send them to do our soldiers jobs and see what their tune sounds like then.
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It's amazing how terrible something can sound when taken out of context.

Have a read, this is where the quote is taken from - Lest we forget poppy day.

http://www.meetthendp.ca/images/quotes/seagram-2.pdf
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:09 AM
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And if you don't want to read the entire thing...


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Idolizing our soldiers as heroes, a god like stature on par with Hercules, is as dangerous as proselytizing a suicide bomber as a martyr. Neither is a hero or a martyr, both are dead people played as pawns in a power mad game of chess of real life.
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:18 AM
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He's still wrong don't care what "context" it is. These people willingly put themselves in harm's way for the greater good. They deserve the respect and admiration bestowed upon them. End of story.
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:29 AM
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"Idolizing our soldiers as heroes, a god like stature on par with Hercules, is as dangerous as proselytizing a suicide bomber as a martyr. Neither is a hero or a martyr, both are dead people played as pawns in a power mad game of chess of real life. "

Duh
Even the NDP should be able to figure out that the suicide bomber is dead.
But many soldiers survived and both living and dead should be celebrated as heroes based on their actions.

To lump them together is NOT taken out of context on any level.
It just further illustrates his views-rambling and non-sensical.

Not every side in a war is fighting for the same reason.
Some fight for Freedom and safety for future generations and some just kill for the opportunity of riches in the great beyond- Virgin action without equal.

This guy can't tell the difference
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:56 AM
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"Idolizing our soldiers as heroes, a god like stature on par with Hercules, is as dangerous as proselytizing a suicide bomber as a martyr. Neither is a hero or a martyr, both are dead people played as pawns in a power mad game of chess of real life. "

Duh
Even the NDP should be able to figure out that the suicide bomber is dead.
But many soldiers survived and both living and dead should be celebrated as heroes based on their actions.

To lump them together is NOT taken out of context on any level.
It just further illustrates his views-rambling and non-sensical.

Not every side in a war is fighting for the same reason.
Some fight for Freedom and safety for future generations and some just kill for the opportunity of riches in the great beyond- Virgin action without equal.

This guy can't tell the difference
Interesting... William Astore, a retired Air Force Lt. Colonel has something to say about idolizing the military. It's an interesting piece - but, you probably won't read it as it's on the Huff.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/willia...b_1254629.html


I wonder what Chris Kyle would say about idolizing the military and it's soldiers if he were alive today. It appears Eddie Ray Routh, the man that killed him - idolized him.
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Interesting... William Astore, a retired Air Force Lt. Colonel has something to say about idolizing the military. It's an interesting piece - but, you probably won't read it as it's on the Huff.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/willia...b_1254629.html


I wonder what Chris Kyle would say about idolizing the military and it's soldiers if he were alive today. It appears Eddie Ray Routh, the man that killed him - idolized him.
To clarify your mindset
What is the purpose and intent of Remembrance Day?

You were probably too busy reading the Huff
So I will help you out

Lest we ......
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proselytizing a suicide bomber as a martyr.
Is my English comprehension not up to par, or does that sentence not even make sense in the given context?
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:07 PM
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To clarify your mindset
What is the purpose and intent of Remembrance Day?

You were probably too busy reading the Huff
So I will help you out

Lest we ......
Never figured you to be condescending Omega.


But... Freedom of speech on your terms really isn't freedom of speech.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:12 PM
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Never figured you to be condescending Omega.


But... Freedom of speech on your terms really isn't freedom of speech.
I am responsible for every word out of my mouth-But your interpretation is out of my hands.
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Is my English comprehension not up to par, or does that sentence not even make sense in the given context?
to "promote" or "advocate" would be close to the meaning
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:27 PM
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i do not idolize our military members. truthfully i hope to never have to do what they do and would not want to see myself in their place. so as an idol or a role model it doesn't work for me.

however i do respect them and i'm thankful of the work they have done and continue to do. i suspect he would have to as well even if we do have our doubts.

perhaps this is just a wording thing, although it does make him sound like a horse's back end
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:31 PM
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What would be better silver? The way they were reviled and hated in the 80's and 90's?
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:32 PM
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perhaps this is just a wording thing, although it does make him sound like a horse's back end
My thoughts as well. A really poor choice of words, for sure.
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To clarify your mindset
What is the purpose and intent of Remembrance Day?

You were probably too busy reading the Huff
So I will help you out

Lest we ......
What I was taught as a child was remembrance day and lest we forget were to commemorate the millions who lost their lives over the death of one man. lest we forget that one death is not worth the death of millions who had no part in that one man's death.

That's how a veteran explained it to me when I was 7 or 8.
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It's amazing how terrible something can sound when taken out of context.

Have a read, this is where the quote is taken from - Lest we forget poppy day.

http://www.meetthendp.ca/images/quotes/seagram-2.pdf
I'll knock the NDP as hard or harder than anybody, but I despise taking things out of context as your credibility goes right down the toilet.

It doesn't do much for credibility when one propagates it and knows that it's wrong.

On the other hand, I see the left doing this all the time and excusing it. Just go on Twitter and see some of the crap that goes on there.
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I'll knock the NDP as hard or harder than anybody, but I despise taking things out of context as your credibility goes right down the toilet.

It doesn't do much for credibility when one propagates it and knows that it's wrong.

On the other hand, I see the left doing this all the time and excusing it. Just go on Twitter and see some of the crap that goes on there.
There's not a whole lot of context or content coming from 140 character tweets. its social media sound bytes is all.
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And if you don't want to read the entire thing...
Doesn't sound much better with the context. Like putting pepper on a crap sandwich.

And I expect military people to say they don't want to be idolized....that's what heroes always say.

Comparing Canadian soldiers to suicide bombers is the mark of another sick minded moral relativist.
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Thanks for the link SD. It shows even more how misguided this Seagram is. a writer who doesn't even know the language.

The link makes his statement even more insulting and offensive. I guess it was a suicide bomber who gave his life to guarantee this guy has the freedom to offend.

You would never see that coward risk anything for freedom.
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