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[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

The US economy is picking up steam and growing, Canada will be officially in a recession when the stats come out next month. Exports are tanking as evident in our sinking dollar, and manufacturing has been gutted and won't be able to take advantage of that situation in part due to Harper's deals with China.

out of the 34 most advanced industrial economies in the world, Canada is in the bottom half performance wise.

I always thought it was the Liberals who destroyed the manufacturing industry??

[score]

Originally Posted by Luxor

I tried to warned you score.

Well at least you know better now

I'm a little slow.......

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

I always thought it was the Liberals who destroyed the manufacturing industry??

400'000 manufacturing jobs lost under Harper.

600'000 since 2002.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by score

I'm a little slow.......

Haha

you gave it your all soldier

I dont think less of ya

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

400'000 manufacturing jobs lost under Harper.

600'000 since 2002.

You sure?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/11...n_2206874.html

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

400'000 manufacturing jobs lost under Harper.

600'000 since 2002.

How is any of this connected to Harper. He went out with his sandwich board and campaigned for fewer jobs for Canadians.

[raab]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

How is any of this connected to Harper. He went out with his sandwich board and campaigned for fewer jobs for Canadians.

Where was Harper while our dollar climbed to par with the US dollar forcing companies to shutdown Canadian operations in the manufacturing section? O right, pumping more Oil to keep the loonie strong. Now that Oil is sinking, were screwed as we've put all our eggs in one basket and it's going to bite us in the ass.

[score]

Originally Posted by raab

Where was Harper while our dollar climbed to par with the US dollar forcing companies to shutdown Canadian operations in the manufacturing section? O right, pumping more Oil to keep the loonie strong. Now that Oil is sinking, were screwed as we've put all our eggs in one basket and it's going to bite us in the ass.

Probably in his office.

I bet he wasn't playing golf.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by raab

Where was Harper while our dollar climbed to par with the US dollar forcing companies to shutdown Canadian operations in the manufacturing section? O right, pumping more Oil to keep the loonie strong. Now that Oil is sinking, were screwed as we've put all our eggs in one basket and it's going to bite us in the ass.

Its going to bite us in the ass because eastern voters have created political systems out east that only a moron would invest in regardless of the benefit of the low Canadian dollar.

Instead of capital flowing that way to take advantage of the low dollar, its going to places like Singapore and Poland where the government isn't so loony.

Don't blame Oil & Gas. If there is profit to be made there, capital would be going there. Its time to ask what the heck Ontario is doing to scare away capital investment.

[score]

I firmly believe that anyone who truly believes that Harper has done a terrible job and isn't the only viable option in the up coming election has been polluted by the media and/or is, and has always been a left thinker.

All I've read here is rants and senseless posts about Harper. I don't mind at all (well I do not like lefties ) if someone has a different opinion and can articulate it but I'm still waiting........

I cannot imagine anyone can post a rational argument as to why we should vote for the NDP, Liberals or the Green Party. Most just vote like they always have and don't know why IMO.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by raab

Where was Harper while our dollar climbed to par with the US dollar forcing companies to shutdown Canadian operations in the manufacturing section? O right, pumping more Oil to keep the loonie strong. Now that Oil is sinking, were screwed as we've put all our eggs in one basket and it's going to bite us in the ass.

So now Harper directly dictates the output of oil companies? Delude on my friend, delude on . See my previous comment in this thread.

[raab]

Originally Posted by score

I firmly believe that anyone who truly believes that Harper has done a terrible job and isn't the only viable option in the up coming election has been polluted by the media and/or is, and has always been a left thinker.

All I've read here is rants and senseless posts about Harper. I don't mind at all (well I do not like lefties ) if someone has a different opinion and can articulate it but I'm still waiting........

I cannot imagine anyone can post a rational argument as to why we should vote for the NDP, Liberals or the Green Party. Most just vote like they always have and don't know why IMO.

Now thats ironic. If you need reasons not to vote for Harper please refer to the following bills & Acts. Bill C-51, The Fisheries Act, The Navigable Waters Protection Act, The Environmental Assessment Act, Bill C-377, and Bill C-23.

Thats not including his lack of respect for fair labor negotiations intervening in 4 labour disputes since he took office. Or how he's cut our level of involvement in peacekeeping tremendously. As of Oct 2014 we only had 34 people in peacekeeping operational roles. Theres several other reasons but if your actually interested in becoming educated I'd suggest you check out this article before casting your vote on Oct 19th. http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015...nister-history

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by raab

Thats not including his lack of respect for fair labor negotiations intervening in 4 labour disputes since he took office. Or how he's cut our level of involvement in peacekeeping tremendously.

Oh boy. Your not from around here are you?

Peacekeeping! HA, I'm going to put my hardhat on and head over to the Sudan next Wednesday for Bingo, call myself the UN and tell them all to behave!

I rather eat my wife's veggie burgers then support anything that has to do with peacekeeping or the UN.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

You sure?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/11...n_2206874.html

edit: Raab already linked the article.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

How is any of this connected to Harper. He went out with his sandwich board and campaigned for fewer jobs for Canadians.

Harper originally campaigned on the platform he was the only fit steward for Canada's economy. He's still campaigning on that platform, but his record isn't as great as he's claiming.

Notice how I said "under" not "because of"

Now the 2 year old article Dc linked puts part of that blame in that Canada cannot compete with labor costs in places like vietnam and China. So what does Harper do to protect Canadian labor, aka: the middle class, signs trade deals opening more offshoring of labor and less restrictions on imports. TPP is in the works which will continue the race to the bottom for labor costs.

Are your grandchildren's labor worth a few dollars a day Red? That's where we're heading with these multinational corporate benefiting "free" trade deals.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

Harper originally campaigned on the platform he was the only fit steward for Canada's economy. He's still campaigning on that platform, but his record isn't as great as he's claiming.

Notice how I said "under" not "because of"

Now the 2 year old article Dc linked puts part of that blame in that Canada cannot compete with labor costs in places like vietnam and China. So what does Harper do to protect Canadian labor, aka: the middle class, signs trade deals opening more offshoring of labor and less restrictions on imports. TPP is in the works which will continue the race to the bottom for labor costs.

Are your grandchildren's labor worth a few dollars a day Red? That's where we're heading with these multinational corporate benefiting "free" trade deals.

You sure??

But Statistics Canada reported that the top 1 per cent’s share peaked at 12.1 per cent in 2006, the year Mr. Harper took office, and declined thereafter to reach 10.3 per cent in 2012.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle25867267/

[raab]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Oh boy. Your not from around here are you?

Peacekeeping! HA, I'm going to put my hardhat on and head over to the Sudan next Wednesday for Bingo, call myself the UN and tell them all to behave!

I rather eat my wife's veggie burgers then support anything that has to do with peacekeeping or the UN.

So going to places where they've signed peace treaties and helping enforce those treaties is bad? We shouldn't support that? Do you know where the idea of peacekeeping even came from? If you did it might change your tune about asking if I'm from around here...

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

Harper originally campaigned on the platform he was the only fit steward for Canada's economy. He's still campaigning on that platform, but his record isn't as great as he's claiming.

Notice how I said "under" not "because of"

Now the 2 year old article Dc linked puts part of that blame in that Canada cannot compete with labor costs in places like vietnam and China. So what does Harper do to protect Canadian labor, aka: the middle class, signs trade deals opening more offshoring of labor and less restrictions on imports. TPP is in the works which will continue the race to the bottom for labor costs.

Are your grandchildren's labor worth a few dollars a day Red? That's where we're heading with these multinational corporate benefiting "free" trade deals.

Hey $15 an hour is not a few dollars a day. When the NDP bring that in we will be awash with money. Nothing to worry about.

Don't bother responding. I'll be busy, putting the con back in inconvenient.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Hey $15 an hour is not a few dollars a day. When the NDP bring that in we will be awash with money. Nothing to worry about.

Don't bother responding. I'll be busy, putting the con back in inconvenient.

speaking of that....some of these posts put the "fun" back in dysfunctional...

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

You sure??

But Statistics Canada reported that the top 1 per cent’s share peaked at 12.1 per cent in 2006, the year Mr. Harper took office, and declined thereafter to reach 10.3 per cent in 2012.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle25867267/

From the above article.

Still, the Tory record is a mixed one. They’ve drilled holes through the tax code, with paternalistic or crassly political measures that will do nothing to enhance economic competitiveness. They’ve shown a surprising inclination toward 1970s-style industrial policy and corporate welfare. But they have not cut transfers to the provinces (yet) and have sustained high research spending.

The top 1% of Canada earning less might have something to do with an increase of foreign ownership of real estate, telecoms, utilities and resources.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

From the above article.


The top 1% of Canada earning less might have something to do with an increase of foreign ownership of real estate, telecoms, utilities and resources.

Do you believe the NDP or Liberals would have done better (economy) the last 7 years?

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by dmcbride

Do you believe the NDP or Liberals would have done better (economy) the last 7 years?

If either one had lead for the past 7 years, I would judge them in the same manner I'm judging the party who did lead for the past 7 years.

I will not speculate on what could have been, I question what has been.

[hillbillyreefer]

So losing jobs in the Ontario is all Harpers fault? What about the Ontario liberals pushing energy costs in Ontario to the highest in North America? What about the Ontario Tax rates?
It's strange that while the Eastern Provincial Govs destroy prosperity as fast as it raised its head, AB, SK were adding jobs at a tremendous rate. SK is still doing well, and the morons in AB elected the socialists to bring our economy down to the level of the Eastern Provinces we've been supporting for the last 20yrs.
Enjoy the decline.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by raab

If you did it might change your tune about asking if I'm from around here...

You can say Harper is bad because of this or that, bottom line, the thing it always comes back to is money.

Nothing to do with the environment, nothing to do with electronic spying, nothing to do with fisheries, nothing to do with Indian affairs, nothing to do with carbon dioxide emissions- its about money. You want more of other peoples money.

Sad thing is you are willing to sell out the future of our kids for it.

That 2.4 million or whatever the NDP stole from taxpayers? That could have bought a wack of land for wildlife conservation. Any of these Unicorn Princess's banging the drum of the earth actually ever do anything credible? Nope, they just want more money to do something. Lots of photo opportunities with rainbows on their t-shirts with their arms around the nearest aboriginal - but never a picture of them out lifting wire for Antelope, planting trees or picking garbage out of wetlands.

I trust none of them, at least Harper doesn't put on the fake concern and use it to get the useful idiots on side.

If you think Angry Tom or Little Justin are going to do anything for you except make you poorer, I have some land to sell you.

[raab]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

You can say Harper is bad because of this or that, bottom line, the thing it always comes back to is money.

Nothing to do with the environment, nothing to do with electronic spying, nothing to do with fisheries, nothing to do with Indian affairs, nothing to do with carbon dioxide emissions- its about money. You want more of other peoples money.

Sad thing is you are willing to sell out the future of our kids for it.

That 2.4 million or whatever the NDP stole from taxpayers? That could have bought a wack of land for wildlife conservation. Any of these Unicorn Princess's banging the drum of the earth actually ever do anything credible? Nope, they just want more money to do something. Lots of photo opportunities with rainbows on their t-shirts with their arms around the nearest aboriginal - but never a picture of them out lifting wire for Antelope, planting trees or picking garbage out of wetlands.

I trust none of them, at least Harper doesn't put on the fake concern and use it to get the useful idiots on side.

If you think Angry Tom or Little Justin are going to do anything for you except make you poorer, I have some land to sell you.

So no facts, or good rebuttal. Glad to see Harper supporters are well educated and versed on why they're supporting Harper. I've yet to see one come back with solid facts on what good Harper has done and why they continue to support him.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by raab

So no facts, or good rebuttal. Glad to see Harper supporters are well educated and versed on why they're supporting Harper. I've yet to see one come back with solid facts on what good Harper has done and why they continue to support him.

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

Smart people disengage from critics who rely on emotion and opinion and not facts.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by raab

So no facts, or good rebuttal. Glad to see Harper supporters are well educated and versed on why they're supporting Harper. I've yet to see one come back with solid facts on what good Harper has done and why they continue to support him.

Then you should actually read some of the posts. You may be well advised to take your complaints and whining about your job to your union, trust me , Harper had nothing to do with you hating your job......

[whitetail Junkie]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

That's probably because the number of NDP supporters on here is pretty minor compared to the overwhelming majority of anti NDP members who belittle and antagonize the supporters without offering viable alternatives or independent ideas.

No there are TONS of individuals on here who voted NDP like myself,however they don't want to be chastised by the apple dumpling club,so they just keep there beliefs to themselves.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by whitetail Junkie

No there are TONS of individuals on here who voted NDP like myself,however they don't want to be chastised by the apple dumpling club,so they just keep there beliefs to themselves.

....

[raab]

Originally Posted by hal53

Then you should actually read some of the posts. You may be well advised to take your complaints and whining about your job to your union, trust me , Harper had nothing to do with you hating your job......

I don't hate my job. I hate Stephen Harper for taking away my right to strike and bargain for a fair collective agreement.